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Post by Skeptical One on Jan 23, 2011 22:27:12 GMT -5
Mustang, I know you are definitely in a tricky situation since the removal of the Elist implant has been shown to cause retraction (though that doesn't mean it will in your case). Besides, you will probably need more PMMA than Dr. C is willing to inject to match the girth you got from the Elist implant (this is presuming you got a very large size).
Uncle, any updates?
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Post by mustang2020 on Jan 23, 2011 22:57:27 GMT -5
I am worried to take the chance, if I remove it and loose more length I'll never forgive my self or the Dr. I am very busy with work now and I plan to take a quick vacation and then I'll be ready to do something for sure.
I do hope that with stretching after removal of the implant and healing of the incision, I'll restore the original length, but this is a pure guess at this point.
BTW, I got the large size which is the smallest he makes. The implant has caused a turkey neck to develop, seems like a by product of this surgery. I do hope that if I decide to go PMMA, the skin is not too loose!
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Post by hoddle10 on Jan 24, 2011 10:24:23 GMT -5
So blood and tissue actually grows into the PMMA? And if removed, will there be any damage to anything, or the grown tissue and the PMMA come out together? I am looking into PMMA as one of the options, a larger girth is addictive. Once one has a bigger penis it is very difficult to go back to the original size especially if there is danger of loosing erect length  You'd need to ask Dr Casaventas really. But it is argued that PMMA breaks a key rule of plastic surgery, which is that if it doesn't dissolve, then it must be removable. I can see how this applies to the buttocks and face etc, but am not sure if it's true of the penis. If you want to remove PMMA from most areas of the body you need to literally cut away tissue to get access to it and this is why it's unpopular amongst plasitc surgeons in the US. It's seen as unremovable as if for exmaple if was injected into the facal wrinkles or the lip and then had to come out, the only way a surgeon could get to it, is by cutting large chukns of the face and lips away, thus totally disfiguring the patient. However, the penis is surely different as it's the only place on the body where PMMA is placed where the skin and underlying tissue's aren't attached. Hence one can get access to PMMA by pealing back the shaft sking and fascia, as they do with degloving. Basically a simple cicrumcision incision is all that is needed. This makes me think it could be argued that the penis is more suited to PMMA than any other part of the body. However, when removing any type of filler, or adipose tissue, from the penis, one needs to be careful not to damage the fascia, so I doubt complete removal would be possible. A thin layer would need to be left behind, but any granuloma's (sp?), which are the mainr ason one would look to have it removed, should be able to be cut out. The same applies for fat or anything else really. The fascia is needed to ensure the skaft skin glides smoothly along the shaft, so any tissue that has grown and attached itself to the fascia shouldn't be totally removed. A smooth thin layer should be left behind so the fascia can be kept in tact, but enough should be removed so that the patient can harldy tell anything is left behind.
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Post by gsxr7501941 on Jan 24, 2011 13:41:41 GMT -5
A patient in dr C's office had some removed becuase his wife thought he was too big. Dr C had another plastic surgeon come ine, they put the guy under, peeled back his skin and basically scraped away the excess material. He healed fine. So it is possible.
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Post by Skeptical One on Jan 24, 2011 13:50:49 GMT -5
A patient in dr C's office had some removed becuase his wife thought he was too big. Dr C had another plastic surgeon come ine, they put the guy under, peeled back his skin and basically scraped away the excess material. He healed fine. So it is possible. "Too big" ? I knew women got breast reduction but I'd be damned to think a guy would listen to anyone to get a penis reduction lol. Dr. C seems to be one of the few doctors circulating in the discussion who actually seems competent and legitimate. That is refreshing.
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Post by idm on Jan 24, 2011 14:18:24 GMT -5
Uncle- Hope you're doing well-thanks for allowing us to chat about a few other things on your thread...sometimes topics intersect!
Mustang-if I may make a friendly suggestion, seriously consider your reasoning (if you haven't already) for removal of the implant.
You know I'm not an advocate of this type of prosthetic BUT since you already endured this invasive procedure, you might consider keeping it, providing its not causing you pain. Pain is our bodys way of telling us somethings not quite right.
If you've gained significant girth and lost an inch in length or less...(I realize this is a personal choice), but for me, based on what I know to be true about sexual function and considering how length/ girth impact a partners experience during intercourse, in terms of sensation both pleasure and pain...(but most of the time pleasure's the goal), if pressed to CHOOSE, I believe girth is more "important" .
You must clearly identify your reason(s) for removing the implant. If its b/c you don't want a silicone prosthesis, then you've established that you should not implant a new silicone prosthesis. If this is not the concern, then that's another story.
If you remove the implant, and have NOT had a lengthening procedure, you may want to consider removal, lig release, and plan on stretching like hell- 8 hours a day for a minimum of 6 mos. (I would do that w/Alter personally), THEN consider your girth enhancement options.
Fyi-Its entirely possible to gain a solid inch in staged fft and/or pmma ( I'm personally not endorsing pmma BUT am interested in it).
I believe the perfect combination theoretically to be staged fft w/treated adipose grafts and followed up w/ prfm BUT Of course Runels is M.I.A...
I believe a thoughtful plan, and patience will serve you well.
As always you have all our support!
I have some thought to share in response to Hoddles pmma commentary but wil do that later on the pmma thread.
Take care all
Idm
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Post by mustang2020 on Jan 24, 2011 18:59:03 GMT -5
Thx IDM, basically you described my thinking process right now. I do have a few problems with my implant as I may have discussed with you in details over the phone a while back. I am considering all options right now, but I am thinking the best would be removal, stretching (I never had a lig cut) and then girth increase by??? I do not know yet, but will make the decision in the next year or so when my work schedule allows it and when I feel I have found the right method for me. I plane to give my next endeavors a full year to reach my goals so I may have to take a few months off of work...Will keep you guys posted. Seems like we stole this thread, but the originator is, as IDM puts it, MIA  .....
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Post by unclejj on Jan 26, 2011 0:34:44 GMT -5
Hey Gentlemen: Thanks for the posts. It seems that the implant was the best answer for me. I had the FFT removed in 2009. After that, my once-big dick was small. Something needed to be done. Thus Doc Elist and I went for the implant. I am hoping that the weight of the implant will pull southward on the penis, thus causing length. The width is good! Best of luck...
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Post by unclejj on Jan 26, 2011 0:38:54 GMT -5
Gentlemen: Of course, feel free to use this thread.
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Post by honested on Jan 26, 2011 0:40:41 GMT -5
you feel free to use it as well uncle...
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Post by mustang2020 on Jan 27, 2011 7:54:29 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D
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Post by unclejj on Jan 29, 2011 1:29:05 GMT -5
Hey, Mustang: are you OK?
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Post by Skeptical One on Jan 29, 2011 1:32:24 GMT -5
Hey Uncle, noticed you were pretty active at MNS recently. Hope you have a moment to share with us some more specifics about your new softer implant.
If you aren't comfortable with sharing, please let us know that is where you stand. I don't mean to pester, but there has been far & few info regarding the implant material and I think it's crucial we get the facts, especially from active forum contributers.
thanks!
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Post by unclejj on Feb 7, 2011 1:33:08 GMT -5
My healing is going great....No problems...I like my testicles and penis! Hooray.
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Post by Skeptical One on Feb 7, 2011 10:04:52 GMT -5
I decided (in my free time) to skim through the vast number of posts Unclejj has made over at MNS and all of the one's he has made here. They have all been one-liners with little to no substance...and even at times making absolutely no sense in relation to the topic being discussed. A lot of his posts at MNS end with something like "keep posting..."
That's fine and all but I'm posing a question to you Unclejj: Are you or are you not affiliated in anyway with MyNewSize's ownership (which includes moderating, administering, and/or being friends/family with site ownership) ?
There is no consequence in answering "yes," because we will know where you stand. There is a consequence if you choose not to answer at all. That consequence is a permanent ban from PhalloBoards.
Sound harsh? Well what is worse is telling everyone how great the Elist implant is w/out any information. You have been asked numerous times here and at MNS about the details and you have only responded with "good job fellas...keep posting." Not calling you a shill...but you are walking a fine line. I do not mean to come off as confrontational, but my job as Admin is to ensure the free flowing of useful & quality information.
We're not asking you to divulge your name, address, or anything personal that could in any way shape or form identify you. We are also not demanding pictures because that wouldn't be fair either. But every reporting member here has provided enough information regarding their experiences to benefit all those reading it. You have not.
So the next time you post on this site, your very very very first response should be an answer to the above question.
-S.O.
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