CK62498 Elist Implant Progress

[ck62498]

Nov 19, 2010 23:51:32 GMT -5 stormy said:

That's extremely sketchy and unprofessional to hear about Dr. Elist not responding to emails or phone calls.

Dr. E has returned all of my calls when I call his cell. He has never responded to an e-mail.
He informed me he has a new replacement for Dr. Ira, not sure if he is on board yet, but he will be fielding most of the after care questions and concerns.

[mustang2020]

I have taken BPEL b4 and after the surgery and the numbers are the same indicating an inch loss of length. I can lie to myself and cheat and make it look like I did not lose any erect length, but that does not work for me.

In the past, I did pull out in the middle of sex and took an erect length measurement and then went back in. The girl and I started laughing after wards. Results were the same. I am still missing one inch.

I have made a decision to do One more thing, not sure what right now, to improve my case in erect length even if it means losing some girth gains.

I will be honest thu, the girth now is around 7" at base, 6.5" mid and 5.5" at glans so it is addictive!!!!

[ck62498]

Nov 20, 2010 14:00:47 GMT -5 mustang2020 said:

I have taken BPEL b4 and after the surgery and the numbers are the same indicating an inch loss of length. I can lie to myself and cheat and make it look like I did not lose any erect length, but that does not work for me.

In the past, I did pull out in the middle of sex and took an erect length measurement and then went back in. The girl and I started laughing after wards. Results were the same. I am still missing one inch.

I have made a decision to do One more thing, not sure what right now, to improve my case in erect length even if it means losing some girth gains.

I will be honest thu, the girth now is around 7" at base, 6.5" mid and 5.5" at glans so it is addictive!!!!

Mustang, If you took BP pre measurements then this hidden penis theory is not panning out. For me, my erect BP length is the same as pre measurement, the question is how can I translate this to a visual gain. I'm still very early in my healing process so my action now could be very premature, just want to be proactive.

It's not beneficial on any level to lie to yourself with gains that haven't materialized. You can't kid yourself, this will only hurt you mentally in the long run with enhanced insecurities about our length.

There must be some sort of stretching device that can be used that will grab the gland and the shaft providing a consistent tug.
I know the Dr. forbids this but I assume we really need to look at the possibilities. Dr. E doesn't have the time to do the research and it's more beneficial for him to say don't do it, for his liability reasons.

If the implant is fully seated and healed, what's the worst that could happen. You would certainly feel pain or tremendous pressure if the tugging strain isn't distributed properly like when you get an erection.

At your stage do you suppose you would be willing to experiment? I may try a few options. Other procedures recommend tugging at my stage like Yardstick, I believe he is using weights. This wouldn't be a likely option.

What do you think?

CK

[mustang2020]

Pulling on the glans is very risky. You can easily break the stitching (if you are stitched there) especially at an early healing stage. Even later, those stitches are very easily broken if you are not careful. I think I disturbed my left hand side stitch and it hurt like hell for a few days.

Another thing that has happened to some implants is splitting down the middle along the shaft axis. As you know, the implant is made of two half moon shaped silicone pieces that are joined in the middle by a thin strip of silicone.

The new implant is supposedly made of one continuous piece hence this problem should be alleviated.

FYI, I did not have my ligs cut, others have, who say they did not experience any erect length loss.

[marknmau]

Hi guys, good luck CK, but I wouldn't do any tugging for at least a few months. I thought I could tug some extra skin down over the implant (and glans, like a foreskin) at about 2 months, and I did get a ridge pop up right at the middle point like mustang said. It's where the 2 pieces join, so I quit doing it. I think it happened from the cone shaped tugger I was using pushing in from the sides as it tugged. Actually it looks just like a vein, to me, now so I don't really mind it. But be very careful if you do any experimenting with it. This whole endeavor is an experiment, so I know where your coming from, it may not do any harm (later) but just be careful. I'm still very happy with my implant.
ps- I don't visit this site much because it is really slow. MNS is flawed because of the censoring, but I thought it was more user friendly than this one.... or is it me?

[Skeptical One]

mark, good to see you here. the site was a bit slow back when it first opened up but its picking up. it can only get busier if we post here as habitually as we posted back at MNS.

The censoring there has become a joke. I can't post a thing, regardless of the content.

Please hang around, even start your own journey/picture thread. This community needs an open honest forum and this place hopes to be that place - the traffic and volume will improve when we all continue to contribute

[ck62498]

Hey Guys, time for an update. It’s been a busy couple weeks so I’ll get caught up on my progress.

Mark, it's good to see you here. I'm taking it pretty easy and being very cautious. I've babied this thing since day one. It would be good if a safe way of stretching was founded. I'm glad things have worked out for you.

I’m at nine weeks and things are better for me than the last post but happening more slowly.

I’m virtually pain free in every situation and am more flexible to move around, can move in every direction without pain and only slight resistance when pulled to my stomach. I still have swelling at the gland and at the base when erect. Wrapping during the day and unwrapped at night, and will continue for at least another month.

As things become more normal I realize that my implant is misaligned. I touched on this early on but dismissed till I got further along with healing. My implant is off center to the right that makes it favor hanging to the left. I notice this visually flaccid and erect. When flaccid the gland bends to the left, I notice this when looking in the mirror. The gland corrects when erect but the base looks distorted with the swelling.
I’ll try and explain; with the implant inserted (as I would see as normal) and penis erect, looking from above you see a natural appearance in shape, however when looking from the side the base and the bottom of the shaft gets very large. If you picture the circumference of your dick as a clock, the implant is inserted with the center or top of the implant at 12 and the edges of the implant at 8 on the left and 4 on the right, everything on the bottom is natural dick. My implant center alignment is at 2 and at 10 on the left and almost 6 on the right. If I’ve explained myself properly you can understand why things would be distorted. Mark posted a pic that clarifies what I’m saying, the bottom really flares out at the base, this is normal for all implants. If I look at my dick from the right it looks perfectly normal. I believe now that this is NOT and accident but by design. My dick when flaccid has a slight twist to the left at the gland and I believe the Dr. inserts the implant to center with the alignment of the gland in the flaccid state. In my case, as I get an erection my penis corrects itself and now puts added stress on the implant that has to accommodate this additional movement. I think the only way to solve this is for the Dr. to evaluate your dick while erect before surgery. I know of others who have complained of misalignment and I have concluded that this is the reason for misalignment in my case.

I’m not entirely pissed because when erect if I slightly pull at the skin everything appears more normal to me, so I’m going to hold on final judgment. I’ll wait for things to be completely healed, no swelling before making a decision on how to proceed.
I’m not getting all worked up about it, the only problem I see is if I can’t live with it and need some sort of revision. The only shitty part of this is that I feel I’ve been quite lucky that I haven’t experienced serious complications and would hate to press my luck.

On a positive note I’m gaining my length back, it’s slow but it is happening. I would expect that things would look more normal to me as more length returns. The incision is healing nicely and I’m massaging the scar to lessen the scar tissue. I’ve noticed the scar tissue is a lot harder during the really cold days. It still feels pretty hard but getting better slowly. In my opinion the scar tissue has a lot to do with length loss or better, preventing full extension due to the scar tissue. As things soften it gets much better, I think softening this should be a big part of the healing regimen.

Over all I’m doing very well and will be very happy if this alignment issue resolves itself in time. I’ve had sex twice so far since last week, I’ll update on this experience soon. Things went pretty good, had no pain and only slight swelling. I’ll go into greater detail later but the first thing that sticks in my mind is you have to retrain yourself for sex. For me it’s nothing like before. I was able to slide right in with little effort and start banging away. The added girth changes everything, you’re forced to go slower, you just can’t get it in and this is an awesome feeling. I also find that I’m having sex longer than ever before and my stamina sucks at the moment, I got tired and was pretty winded. I know it was eight weeks and I’ve slacked off with exercise but I’m in good shape and was thrown by the workout. The good news is everything works and haven’t lost any sensation.

More too come.

CK

[marknmau]

Hey CK Good to hear the mostly good news. After reading this I just had to write because my implant also was put in with more to the right, I guess you could say "reaches around from the top towards the bottom", more on the right than left. It's not real bad though, you have to really check to notice, and my wife says that she's never noticed it. when flaccid it's almost around to the bottom on right and about 7 o'clock on the left, (using your 12 o'clock top center method), but then when erect it really opens up to about 4 or 5 o'clock on the right and only about 8 or 9 o'clock on the left. I've never mentioned this because it really isn't a big deal to me, like I said I doubt if anyone else would ever notice, and my dick functions perfectly. As far as the flaring out to be really big around the very base..... that seems to almost go away after some months, so don't worry too much about that. The pics were at only about 9 weeks out I believe. When I look at them now I realize that I still had some swelling going on then, even though I didn't realize it. I know I should post some new pic's, and I will soon. I have just been so damn busy lately,.... but I will. I think you will enjoy the sex more and more, I really love it, much improved from before implant, but that could be different for each guy I suppose. take care

[mustang2020]

Many implant patients complained of their implant being turned to one side, including mine, it is slight but we are very sensitive about anything concerning our dick that we all will notice the smallest thing. Attention to this kind of detail is some what lacking.

good luck with your healing and keep up the good spirit.

[Skeptical One]

CK! We just heard from stale, was hoping you could report similarly positive times. Also check your PM if you get the chance, thanks!

[ck62498]

Hey Guys, It’s been awhile, just want to check in and update those who have been following.

I’m at 5.5 month and things are good. I’ve had know issues with infection and the swelling finally dissipated at about 3.5 months. On a positive note, I got all of my length back and not a bit more, exactly the same size (about 3.5 months). Bone pressed length does provide a half inch gain but I do believe this is false. With the implant everything moves forward a bit. I still have an issue with the alignment, this is my only concern. If anyone follows and goes for this procedure I would caution them to be very direct with the Dr. about the alignment. The ascetics are a big part of this procedure. For me I’m the only one who notices, there has never been a negative comment.

Aside from the small issue I have, the flaccid and erect look is everything I needed. My experience sexually has been very positive. Confidence men is everything when it comes to sex. For me this has been the greatest gain sexually. I’m a pretty good looking guy who stays fit and has never had a hard time with the ladies, however I’ve always felt somewhat inadequate when it came to my penis. I was pretty obsessed for as long as I can remember. Erect was ok but flaccid was another story, really rocks your confidence. That is in the past for me, the looks and the comments now calm you so you can focus on what’s really important, taking care of your lady. Just my thoughts nothing more.

Having said all that, this is not a procedure to be taken lightly. I feel I got lucky but many before have not been so fortunate. The healing process is a bitch, you need to prepare yourself mentally and just trust what you read here and listen to the Dr. Everything he has said to me has been accurate aside from gaining erect length. Your mind can be your worst enemy if you allow it, be robotic with wrapping and healing and just let the days tick by. Every day gets better.

Thanks for following..

CK

[Skeptical One]

@ck

Do you mind sharing your current (and what is probably end result) dimensions both erect girth and length? Thanks

[ck62498]

Flacid is great 5" lenth 5" girth
Erect length is 6", erect girth is almost 7" at the base and 6.5 Mid shaft.

[ck62498]

Skeptical, I sent you a private message..

[Skeptical One]

Oh I'm sorry ck, my inbox has so many messages I tend to miss some, I'll get back to you later today