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Post by mustang2020 on Oct 22, 2010 0:19:30 GMT -5
I have a vacuum pump that I used for a short while, but now my girth is too big for the tube and if I get an erection while pumping, it can get stuck and may cause some damage, it almost did get stuck hence I do not even try anymore. I will be doing some massaging for a few weeks then I may decide to pull it out and go Belladerm. I just fear that if I pull it out and leave it alone, I may suffer more retraction as some did after removal of the implant....
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Post by ck62498 on Oct 22, 2010 9:55:57 GMT -5
Wow Mustang, I agree with you, pumping must inflate you to your max. Would be uncomfortable to get stuck. Did you mainly get stuck at the base or did the pump even things out?
Let me know how the massaging works for you, I won't start for at least another week.
CK
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Post by mustang2020 on Oct 22, 2010 12:48:54 GMT -5
The base flaccid is over 5 inches, so any pumping will cause the base to get stuck first, so of course i did not wait to find out if the rest will get stuck  . I do not believe pumping is a good idea. Massaging is a must to keep scar tissue from holding your implant back in. You may loose some erect length or not, but you sure get a bunch of girth....Keep wrapping, I still do, i believe it keeps the implant well behaved  |
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Post by messageman on Oct 24, 2010 9:28:30 GMT -5
Hi Mustang
Frankly speaking, I would bet that you would indeed experience retraction if you were to take the implant out. And the the idea that anyone would put belladerm in after the trauma of having the impkant removed, seems risky to say the least.
Could I ask? With the implant and the pumping together, what is your girth?
Best of luck with everything...
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Post by respecto on Oct 24, 2010 10:00:46 GMT -5
I thought that guys with implant were not supposed to pump (?)...
I remember that a few years ago Elist was completely against any form of PE after implant procedure (he recommended massaging with oil though), then he allowed jelqing ...is pumping a new addition now ?
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Post by mustang2020 on Oct 24, 2010 11:36:45 GMT -5
No pumping after the implant. The girth is around 6.85 base, 6 mid and 5.25 at the glans, erect. Flaccid is about 5 along the shaft, pretty even...
Soldier77 got Belladerm after the implant. I am staying in touch w him...I hope he gets his length back plus some girth!
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Post by ck62498 on Oct 28, 2010 8:08:27 GMT -5
I’m due for an update, this is for the one or maybe two guys following this tread, lol. Let me apologize for the long post upfront.
I’m four weeks today and pain free during the day, still dealing with some swelling but getting better. At night i’m not wrapping so my erections can happen without restriction (been doing this for the past few days), still wrapping all day. I continue to have mild to moderate discomfort while erect and expect this to carry on for at least another two weeks. The penis is less flexible but has been gradually getting better. My penis still hangs to the left but straightens when erect. I have lost a little flaccid length and expect to get this back. Flaccid looks and feels great, haven’t measured but will in a couple weeks.
My concern at the moment is my erect length, I have lost two inches and this is very startling to look at. I really took for granted the mass of information from the group of guys before me. I won’t kid you, it has been difficult at times to deal with the unknowns of the healing process and not have loads of info at your fingertips. Thanks Mustang for your private thoughts, they have been helpful.
For years I read at least a dozen threads of guys experiences and followed all the questions and progressions till they disappeared. Going into this I thought I was well prepared for the healing process and everything that goes along with it. All of those threads tucked away in my memory, well their useless; i’m at a loss as to why I can’t seem to remember or make connections, really bizarre. Anyway, I do remember one memory I have and that was from MJ’s thread when he summarized his journey; He was descript and I recall his mention of “you will loose a couple inches and is not a good feeling but some will come back quickly and the rest over time” so I will be patient with a positive attitude and document well for anyone interested in reading.
The base is very large while erect and due to the loss of length has a very strange appearance. It is cone shaped but should look more natural with added length. The base is also not symmetrical when erect due to swelling and I’m positive this has added some girth; I haven’t measured but it’s hugh, flaccid is great. At times my erection doesn’t appear to be full at the gland, however feels like it’s going to pop at the base. The Dr. tells me this will pass as the swelling lessens and more or new skin occupies the shaft.
For the most part my experience has been ok to date aside from the unknowns that will drive you nuts if you permit.
I’ll try and summarize to date:
Surgery was not unpleasant, great care from the Dr. and the surgery center was a first-class experience. The hotel was ok, nothing fancy but for my purpose was well suited. After surgery I was pain free for 14 hours and stupidly didn’t take my pain meds, don’t make this mistake. Start taking the meds six hours after surgery and continue as needed. The pain the first couple days was moderate, you really have to be still for a couple of days, get up to eat and go to piss and back to bed. One note of topic that I haven’t mentioned; I’ve always been very regular, same time everyday. I was concerned with moving my bowels after the surgery and dreaded this task, to my pleasant surprise I didn’t go for at least four or five days; must have been the local anesthetic and the medication. As soon as I stopped taken the Tylenol 3 things started moving again in a couple days. I took the meds for about a week, then one at night for the next week, this really helped me with the nighttime erections, there a bitch. The most pain I endured was the day after surgery when I had my drain flushed due to a clot. The pain only lasted for seconds but felt like a lifetime. As painful an experience this was I do believe I would do it again just for the fact that everything felt my better and the discharge was greatly reduced immediately. The next day I felt even better with less drainage ultimately allowing me to have the drain removed before leaving; this was a good thing for me. The trip home was difficult but manageable, the meds had me dozing and snoring on the plane; drawing attention to myself and my extra large package,lol.
When I arrived home I stayed on my back while sleeping and still do today. I can sleep on my side but still by default wakeup on my back. I was not prepared for the mood changes that apparently are a big part of the healing process; it does get better. I’m lucky my wife has supported me, however I have kept my real thoughts about my day to day emotions from her. I suppose it’s because I don’t want to project any doubt with my decision.
Overall my mood has been manageable threw out the process. Every day improves over the next and the same is for the weeks. Things happen much slower after the first two weeks. I don’t feel the capsule yet as many have talked about and the shaft skin color has turned from pale to reddish. The stitches came out at three weeks without incident and the incision has closed nicely. I’ll post photos soon; I’ve documented each week. I started using olive oil regularly at three weeks and it does help to sooth the skin. My penis appears to be able to handle the lg implant as of date.
I’m sure there is much I’ve failed to mention so if anybody has any questions feel free to ask. If their are any members who are lurking and want to share there experience with me that would be helpful too. I cannot recommend this procedure at this time as I haven’t fully progressed and really aren’t sure what will follow. Caution is the word that comes to mind. There are guys who have had problems with this procedure long after my current duration so only time will tell for me.
Many Thanks
CK
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Post by messageman on Oct 28, 2010 10:38:21 GMT -5
ck62498 I lost about an inch in (erect) length after surgery and I was freakin' out  because it was something the doctor had never mentioned might be a possibility. The doctor assured me that, given time, it would eventually revert back to its original length or even longer...And what do you know? After 3 months, it did made its way back to the erect length I started with. In my case, I feel it had to do with the skin stretching to accomodate the new girth...the point being that there is only a certain amount of skin to go around....limiting expansion... Just baby that thing...and ward off any chance of infection! The retraction should not be a concern at this point; It is something that should be expected at this stage of healing. I'm really rooting for you....  |
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Post by mustang2020 on Oct 28, 2010 15:26:42 GMT -5
CK, sounds like you are doing very well. As long as you have no infection and no rejection, then you are on the way to good results. Use Olive oil as advised and if you strecth it, be extra careful NOT to disturb the stitching behind the glans. I wrapped 24/7 and still wrap now sometimes. I think the implant starts complaining to you and it wants to be wrapped every now and then after which it settles down...
To sleep on your side, put a pillow between your knees, this helped me a lot...
If you are healed well and can go in a warm tub, do it. It allows more blood to flow and help in healing.
After few weeks, you may want to post in the "Diaries of an implant patient" thread...if you so wish.
Good healing!
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Post by ck62498 on Oct 31, 2010 14:37:45 GMT -5
Thanks Messageman, I haveu to agree with you.My skin is able to handle the implant no problem for girth, just can't both.
I'm very happy to report that I've gained a half inch back. I'm stoked to see things improving. Flaccid looks great and erect is on its way. At one month I see some real progress, everything is good.
Mustang, I've been really babying this thing and that appears to be the thing to do. Hopfully only three more weeks then I can take this thing out for a test drive.
I'll keep posting.
CK
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Post by ck62498 on Oct 31, 2010 14:40:06 GMT -5
Excuse the errors in the last post, it's the phone, I'm not as savy.
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Post by messageman on Nov 12, 2010 9:05:50 GMT -5
ck62498 Any chance for an update? Hope all is well...  |
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Post by ck62498 on Nov 13, 2010 6:56:16 GMT -5
Hey guys, I know it's been awhile so here's a quick update.
I’m just past six weeks and things are moving a little more slowly. Everything appears to be settling in good and feeling no pain at all anymore.
At this early stage I would say things are going quite well, I still have some swelling when I wake in the morning due to the stress from erections all night, but this gets back to normal quickly. I’m still more than an inch below my erect starting length but making progress. I'm noticing things are begining to loosen and my skin is stretching more freely, but it does take time.
The girth is great, I haven’t taken girth measurements yet but I would say I’m well over six at the base and probably closer to seven and more than five at the gland, which is larger than my pre op girth. My wife likes the look, although she made a comment that it looks like a tree stump when erect, can’t wait to try it—it took me a minute then wtf does that mean, stump lol. It does look strange to see a 4.5 inch dick, the massive girth makes it look small. I’m sure it will still pack a punch when the time comes but I will tell you that an inch is huge when it comes to length gain or loss. WHEN I get back to my starting length back I’ll be very pleased and if I gain even a centimeter I’ll be stoked.
I do have a question for any elist guys. Can you feel where the implant ends in your pelvic area? I can follow the implant; my sack has more skin so I can push my finger along and I can feel the end of the implant and it appears to be full length, not cut. It has to be in at least 4 or more inches. I tried to get to the end while erect and give a little push to the implant to see if it would move forward but couldn’t get my finger there erect. I have zero pain while doing this. I had no idea that it went in that far.
The scar is healing well and the ridge that I feel gets better every week. Dr. Elist said I should to massage the scar to breakdown the tissue. I’m ready for the next chapter, which is using this stump.
I'm happy with the progress, i'll keep posting.
CK
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Post by donjuannabe on Nov 13, 2010 11:50:14 GMT -5
Hi ck62498, thank you for posting an update, I am glad to see that your recovery is progressing nicely. I know in your first post to this thread you mentioned that you spoke with a few other patients before getting the surgery. Did any of them mention anything about the length loss? If so, did they say it came back or how long it took to come back?
Mustang2020: I hope you are doing well too! Have you had any of your length return? Has the doctor mentioned anything about what he thinks might be causing this phenomenon?
My best to both of you!
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Post by envisionmore on Nov 13, 2010 15:11:10 GMT -5
Would it help if Dr Elist used a spacer when lengthening?
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. I do not believe pumping is a good idea. Massaging is a must to keep scar tissue from holding your implant back in. You may loose some erect length or not, but you sure get a bunch of girth....Keep wrapping, I still do, i believe it keeps the implant well behaved 
because it was something the doctor had never mentioned might be a possibility. The doctor assured me that, given time, it would eventually revert back to its original length or even longer...And what do you know? After 3 months, it did made its way back to the erect length I started with. In my case, I feel it had to do with the skin stretching to accomodate the new girth...the point being that there is only a certain amount of skin to go around....limiting expansion...
