I just went through Fred's picasa album.
Fred is the man in the two blogs linked earlier in this thread on page two who had the PMMA procedure done.
His picasa web album can be found here:
picasaweb.google.com/fredconstantino*Note: there is a video on there as well of his penis erect. He looks much larger in the vid than what the pictures would indicate.
Observations- There are pics on there of him using a stretcher post op. From the looks of it, it is an all day stretcher.
- In the erect state his penis looks for the most part fine. In some pictures he looks a little bit "lumpy", but not unnaturally so. The glans to shaft proportion is definitely noticeable given the large increase in shaft girth he has undertaken.
- In the flaccid state his penis resembles mens who have overpumped and they're penises are filled with lymph. It's not necessarily bad looking, but it definitely does not look like like a fully natural penis.
- There are pics that show the injection site. It is at the base. I am wondering how this works. Possibly injection of material slowly at base while the doctor manually massages material throughout penis. I would imagine someone/something would have to be pulling the penis at the glans in a fully stretched state to insure that the material is distributed evenly throughout.
Finally, the most important observation(in my eyes) with respect to Elist's procedure.- If the 13 cm to 19.5 cm increase is to be believed, then that means over time he has had an increase of 6.5 cm, or roughly just over 2.5" in girth.
This implies that the skin can accommodate that drastic of gain in girth, if done slowly and over time so as to allow the penis skin to stretch.
After going through some of the other photo galleries, it seems that each PMMA session 10 ml is injected which on avg yields 1cm of girth increase. As the blogs show, Fred has had his massive increase done in steps over time.
OT rant relating the above information to Elist's procedure.
I think, and I hate to say it, but I feel that what many feel is the big advantage of Elist's procedure is also the big drawback that being the massive instant increase in girth.
It seems a lot of the problems could be traced to the skin of the penis just not being ready for that drastic of increase so suddenly. Skin pressure necrosis is caused by that very thing, stress on the skin.
I think the length inhibition is also caused by the skin trying desperately to accommodate the implant and in doing so sacrifices length initially to deal with the implant but unfortunately over time the scar tissue that encapsulates the implant may conform to the loss length.
Fortunately some men have been able to regain their loss length via stretching. To me investigating stretching techniques that work with the implant in the penis will be an important area of progress.
Just quickly giving this some thought, some ways to address those problems with Elist's procedure would be;
1.) Undergoing a pumping regimen for several months prior to having Elists procedure done to help stretch the skin. I would imagine using some sort of skin lotion to help skin pliability and health in conjunction with this regimen would be important to insure the stresses induced by pumping do not undermine the implant.
Of course, lotions(or olive oil) is regularly used post op to aid skin pliability and health.
2.) Implementing stretching ASAP and as safely as possibly post op to get and prevent length loss.
3.) Investigating the mechanisms behind whether stitching plays a role in length loss.
4.) Putting a properly fitted implant in. One that isn't too big else the stress on the penis would be too much. Assuming the pumping regimen were successful than a patient could get a larger implant.
5.) This is a weird one, but using a heat pad post op to help heal by helping with skin pliability and circulation of blood to the penis which is important in healing.
I have not heard of using a heat pad post op from any of the past Elist patient's, but using heat is quite the norm and considered important in natural PE practices(via thundersplace).
6.) Healthy diet, and stay hydrated! Hydration is key to skin health.
That's all I've got for now. I would appreciate any comments. Also I apologize for the off topic tangent from PMMA but after seeing Fred's pics I couldn't help but see the relation to Elist's procedures and felt they could be shared.
I ought to repost the information I wrote about regarding Elist's procedure in an Elist thread.
Any opinions would be great appreciated.
Thanks,
stormy