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Post by new1inch on Dec 17, 2010 1:33:34 GMT -5
his penis looks wierd and unnatural. maybe because he mayb uncircumsized, just a observation.
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Post by Skeptical One on Dec 17, 2010 2:53:17 GMT -5
Thanks for the link Stormy... for me, I personally wouldn't care too much if it looked this unusual if I could obtain 2"+ gains in erect girth... as long as it "felt" somewhat normal and its appearance wasn't extremely far off most people's concept of a penis (fleshy cylinder extending from man's body). Aesthetics vary from person to person.
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Post by hoddle10 on Dec 17, 2010 7:54:51 GMT -5
his penis looks wierd and unnatural. maybe because he mayb uncircumsized, just a observation. I think it looks wierd as he's had far too much put in. It doesn't matter is you use fat, dermal grafts, alloderm or whatever. If you put so much of the stuff in that it dwarfs the size of the gland, then it's going to look odd. I've said for a while that one of the main reasons FFT had a bad rep is that too much of the stuff is being pumped in. I don't think Alloderm or Belloderm would even be options now if FFT was limited to less than an inch gain. |
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Post by idm on Dec 17, 2010 10:29:06 GMT -5
Hi Hoddle-
Howve you been pal?
Just want to add my 2 cents.
You bring up a gd point - the "allmighty glans" really determines in large part what we can and can't (or shouldn't do)! The glans though attached and obviously part of the penis is a separate structure. Unfortunately, there hasn't been so far a heathy way to increase its size. (I'm curious to see where the prfm goes). Over filling the shaft w/any material tend to look a bit unusual. I'd like to offer a word of caution to those seeking significant gains eg:2 inches or better by means of pmma. If one starts out on the smaller side and undergoes a significant augmentation (even incrementally), the danger is in the % of natural tissue to the % of artificial material. This could cause problems which could potentially require its removal over a period of time.
Good luck to all!
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Post by stormy on Dec 17, 2010 17:14:50 GMT -5
The glans to shaft size ratio I feel is a purely aesthetic topic. There are plenty of guys who naturally have very small glans relative to their shaft girth. The most glaring example is a adult filmsstar who goes by the name of Mr. Kane or Jez Christ(he uses both). He is probably one of the thickest adult filmsstars currently but has a very small glans. Shorty Mac is another glaring example. Probably the thickest adult filmsstar ever(close to 8" girth) but also disproportionately small glans.
Of course that doesn't mean that one should forsake aesthetics for ridiculous size increases. It's just a very subjective matter.
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Post by envisionmore on Dec 17, 2010 22:54:50 GMT -5
FYI... Fred (pic blog) did not have lengthening surgery. He said all gains in length were due to the PMMA injections!
I think his glans looks a little funny but, I know there's quite a few Dr's that enlarge the glans as well.
Does Elist enlarge the glans when placing the implant?
I know Dr K can enlarge the glans with DFG.
Dr Casavantes said he uses H. acid but it's only temporary.
Dr Marcio uses H. acid as well.
Has anyone here increased the size of their glans? How much of an increase was achieved?
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Post by idm on Dec 18, 2010 16:23:27 GMT -5
The visual difference in flaccid length is most likely due to the PMMA not allowing penile retraction, (which I assume most of us would consider a benefit). An ACTUAL length "gain", is unlikely but rather what is being observed is an appearance of length gain.
Glanular enhancement is very dangerous, as the glans is chuck full of nerves...surgical implantation of alloderm/belloderm reportedly yields a 10-15 % flare in the coronal ridge - which isn't much and the risk, include loss of sensation and impotence are too great (at least from my point of view). For this reason, in MY opinion, the best doctors DO NOT even offer this.
Hyaluronic acid as you mentioned, is a temporary fix. At some point, those of us who are not newbies become tired of beating the hell out of our dicks!
Dr K's work as you may know has been quite controversial, what does the abbreviation you mentioned, represent, can you explain-thanks.
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Post by new1inch on Dec 18, 2010 22:22:50 GMT -5
Is thier a actual solid enlargement for the glands? i would think since its jus there and dont grow to much when erect a implant can be inserted like the breast.
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Post by envisionmore on Dec 18, 2010 23:23:43 GMT -5
I apologize I should have worded my last post differently. I have been rushing around for Christmas and finishing up contracts etc. and have briefly been looking on here for any updates.
The penis itself isn't actually longer it just appears to be due to the PMMA not allowing retraction in the flaccid state.
Artefill is a PMMA approved by the FDA for use as a facial filler in the USA. I think someone had posted there are "no" and never will be a PMMA approved for use in the U.S.
I have been looking into PE (penis enlargement) since 1998 and haven't heard anything about Glans enlargement disasters or nerve damage etc. Can you fill me in? However, I have heard many times about disasters with the different types of PE surgeries throughout the twelve years I have been researching. Which is why I have not had any surgeries to date. This is also why the PMMA sounds like a winner for girth (in my opinion). No surgery, just injection. I have been researching the PMMA for a couple of months and although two months is not a real long time I haven't found any negative remarks concerning PE by PMMA. In fact it's been just the opposite with men that have had the PMMA injections telling how great things are and how great sex feels and they are very satisfied with the PMMA even after some having large amounts injected which "should" be disfiguring. I know these countries such as Mexico and Brazil used the "liquid silicone" and the "gels" in the past but, you don't really hear of this in the present day in regards to penis enlargement. I don't know why, maybe they learned their lesson using the liquids that can migrate(?) It seems that the majority of the PE Docs in Mexico and South America are using PMMA now and seem to be very pleased with the product and the results. I haven't heard of or read about any reported cases of migration when properly injected for PE.
The abbreviations... H. Acid = Hyaluronic Acid.... DFG = Dermal Fat Grafts
As far as Doctors go not one has a 100% satisfaction rate. There will always be patients that didn't like this or that and there will always be patients dissatisfied because the outcome didn't meet their expectations and of course there will always be mistakes made (maybe rare but no one's perfect not even Doctors). I did and still would consider Dr K if I were to go the DFG route. I remember when he was the Top Doc on all the sites and everyone was praising his work and then the "screw up" whether his mistake or the patients mistake (I) will never know. But the way I look at it no one can be on top of their game 100% of the time. I just hope and pray they are when I'm on the table!!!
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Post by idm on Dec 19, 2010 1:32:12 GMT -5
The glans, though part of the penis is a seperate structure. It has a vast, intricate neurological circuitry which is vulnerable. If this area is opened surgically and something eg: a small graft of alloderm/belloderm or even an autologuuos tissue graft for that matter, one risks nerve damage by intruding upon this delicate territory. Its not as much a question of what's being inserted as it is the fact that the sensitive glans, the area were most of the penile circuitry is located is being tampered with....with any surgery there is scarring. Several weeks back there was a post from a gentleman who had a "triple augmentation"...he was complaining several months post op, of difficulty acquiring/maintaining erections due to loss of sensation. This loss of sensation in my opinion is due to the intrusion/nerve damage incurred during the glanular enhancement.
I would strongly recommend second and third opinions before committing to a glanular enhancment procedure. The ugly truth of the matter is that nerve damage is next to impossible to repair. One must way the benefit to risk ratio very carefully.
As for PMMA, its plastic and there's insufficient data detailing potential long term affects in the body.
PMMA's long term affects are unknown. Large amounts of this filler as stated previously can induce negative body responses. I encourage all who are considering PMMA to do your research and study a bit about the workings of the immune system and become familiar w/terms such as macrophage and phagocytosis. When the ANYTHING foreign is introduced into the body, the bodys immune system reacts to protect. The larger the invader the bigger the reaction. The human body tries to first contain the foreign object, if the volume of the object is great the body tries to break it down and make the material part of the body...this is a problem when were dealing w/material like PLASTIC. It is VERY problematic when large amounts of PMMA are introduced into the body...studies have shown that like silcone, traces of these materials are found years down the road in lymph glands and in organs like the liver (which is the bodys primary filtering system. Systemic problems CAN occur immunological and otherwise.
What we don't know can harm us. Its very important to think LONG TERM.
Ultimately, considering ALL the various methods of penile augmentation (particularly for girth enhancement) we've discussed, if the bottom line is (regardless of which method you choose) we can expect an inch or two -why not choose the safest option available?
I respect everyone decision to choose for himself and agree to disagree when necessary.
Good Luck
Idm
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Post by new1inch on Dec 19, 2010 2:12:20 GMT -5
The glans, though part of the penis is a seperate structure. It has a vast, intricate neurological circuitry which is vulnerable. If this area is opened surgically and something eg: a small graft of alloderm/belloderm or even an autologuuos tissue graft for that matter, one risks nerve damage by intruding upon this delicate territory. Its not as much a question of what's being inserted as it is the fact that the sensitive glans, the area were most of the penile circuitry is located is being tampered with....with any surgery there is scarring. Several weeks back there was a post from a gentleman who had a "triple augmentation"...he was complaining several months post op, of difficulty acquiring/maintaining erections due to loss of sensation. This loss of sensation in my opinion is due to the intrusion/nerve damage incurred during the glanular enhancement. I would strongly recommend second and third opinions before committing to a glanular enhancment procedure. The ugly truth of the matter is that nerve damage is next to impossible to repair. One must way the benefit to risk ratio very carefully. As for PMMA, its plastic and there's insufficient data detailing potential long term affects in the body. PMMA's long term affects are unknown. Large amounts of this filler as stated previously can induce negative body responses. I encourage all who are considering PMMA to do your research and study a bit about the workings of the immune system and become familiar w/terms such as macrophage and phagocytosis. When the ANYTHING foreign is introduced into the body, the bodys immune system reacts to protect. The larger the invader the bigger the reaction. The human body tries to first contain the foreign object, if the volume of the object is great the body tries to break it down and make the material part of the body...this is a problem when were dealing w/material like PLASTIC. It is VERY problematic when large amounts of PMMA are introduced into the body...studies have shown that like silcone, traces of these materials are found years down the road in lymph glands and in organs like the liver (which is the bodys primary filtering system. Systemic problems CAN occur immunological and otherwise. What we don't know can harm us. Its very important to think LONG TERM. Ultimately, considering ALL the various methods of penile augmentation (particularly for girth enhancement) we've discussed, if the bottom line is (regardless of which method you choose) we can expect an inch or two -why not choose the safest option available? I respect everyone decision to choose for himself and agree to disagree when necessary. Good Luck Idm Thanks IDM for that explanation. It really make me think of the pros and cons of anything. as far as gland surgery that kind of freaked me out. guess thats out of the question for me because i need all the sensation i can get during intercourse  |
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Post by idm on Dec 21, 2010 13:36:06 GMT -5
Just want to amend my earlier comments re:PMMA. I stated that PMMA is NOT used as a soft tissue filler in The States. This is incorrect. Some doctors are using a product called ARTEFIL (commercial brand name)...its PMMA. However it is NOT recommended for use in high volumes and is not, to the very best of my knowledge, being used by any physician in The States for penile enhancement.
Thank you.
Idm
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Post by gsxr7501941 on Dec 21, 2010 15:44:37 GMT -5
I am seriously considering this procedure. I am 5.9 x 5.2 at the base and would love to be 5.5 - 6 inches at the base. I am on the west coast so a trip to San Diego and then a quick hop across the border would not be too difficult for me. I contacted the Dr and am waiting to hear back from him. I asked him to put me in touch with any former patients...PMMA seems to have good results for facial wasting, and for Buttock Augmentation. I dont mind having a big flaccid either, the cold makes me disappear!
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Post by gsxr7501941 on Dec 21, 2010 18:26:57 GMT -5
I am going to order my Passport tomorrow....and I need to look into a stretcher, because you are supposed to stretch if afterwards until the stuff settles, or sets. Unsure how long you need to do it though...
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Post by Skeptical One on Dec 22, 2010 9:02:02 GMT -5
gsxr, PLEASE keep us posted if you decide to go through with this... I'm sure many here are intrigued to follow your progress (and hopefully positive outcome).
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