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Post by frankbean on Dec 14, 2010 13:41:13 GMT -5
Hello
Some of you may have followed my thread on MNS but for those who didn't i am now 12 weeks post lengthening and FFT and so far i am fairly pleased with the progress made.
In regards to the FFT i am undergoing a staged process with a UK surgeon which involves a small top up every 3 to four months, so far i have had one top up. I am very pleased with the results of the FFT. I have no unusual lumps or bumps and in my opinion my penis looks completely natural in both flacid and erect state. I can not give you exact measurements guys because to be honest i never took any prior to the surgery however i have definitely increased in girth in both flaccid and erect. In regards to the feel of the penis i do not feel there is much of a difference if any perhaps a little softer in erect but nothing like the stories i have read about it feeling squidgy etc. I know some guys have had bad experiences with FFT in the past but in my opinion i think techniques have improved a little. The top ups are very simple and take around 10 minutes (if that) and you can return to work the next day.
Additionally i had lengthing done which i am 50/50 about so far all though i am still healing and don't really want make an opinion until i see the final outcome. So far it defintely hangs better in flaccid and i don't seem to have lost any erect length ( i have been stretching religisouly 4 times a day).
My reservations so far is whether you will be able to see the scar but it is slowly healing and looking better and my hair is still growing so it is becoming a little less visible at present.
I must stress guys this has been no easy ride it has been 12 weeks of stress and worrying about every little thing.... it kind of makes you even more paranoid than before however i am now starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel.
I am by no means endorsing FFT just giving you my thoughts on my experience so far.
Feel free to ask any questions because this feels a little rushed and i am sure i have missed a few vital things out.
Thanks
Frank
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Post by Skeptical One on Dec 14, 2010 14:04:46 GMT -5
Frank, I've been researching phalloplastic options for a few years now. This is primarily due to my not-so-average size. I'm in that gray area between "bigger-than-micro, but noticeably smaller-than-average" zone that I can't seem to find many others in. This is especially true for my girth. While my length might not be optimal, I'm convinced with rigorous stretching over time I can and will obtain enough to reach my 6" erect length goal.
As for girth however, I'm not sure manual PE exercise alone can satisfy the gains I seek. Honestly all options are open, which includes every single girth enhancing method. The only method I refuse to pursue is volumetric gain via silicone gel injections. Elist implant, PMMA, FFT, etc are all still being researched and are all possibilities.
FFT has in my mind been my primary "fall-back" method. In other words, if all other techniques prove too risky when I come to make my decision, FFT will by my automatic choice. This is because of the safe(r) nature of this method...using your own cells which eliminates rejection risks and keeps complications to a minimum.
My biggest issue with FFT was the concern for re-absorption as well as the aesthetics and "feel" of the final product. I understand that "Staged FFT" has made a leap in those areas, and this is exciting news. Testimonies from yourself and IDM also prove to be helpful in legitimizing FFT. I know you are not endorsing it, and still have some ways to go, but "on paper" this technique seems to be the only "provably effective" method out there.
And to be honest, most of the complaints about FFT were never penis-destroying or life-destroying dilemmas, but rather aesthetic complaints which I figured could be corrected over time with innovation and improvement on the doctor's end.
FFT is very much high on my list (maybe even #1). I wish wish wish the Elist implant possessed a much higher degree of success, but I know it doesn't. The only reason why I continue to contemplate the Elist implant is my need for significant girth gain. But I suppose with "high yield there is high risk," as they say. If FFT could afford me similar gains while retaining some reasonable level of realism, I may eventually commit to it. I'm also thinking about PMMA, which I like to think as the synthetic alternative to FFT but more permanent and also slightly less expensive.
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But enough of my own introduction to you, lets get straight to my question(s).
I am seeking a 70% gain (in inches) in erect girth. That is my biggest dilemma... would such volumetric change in my penis distort it beyond realism and functionality? I'd imagine most guys who get girth enhancements see a 20-30% increase with the occasional 50%.
One does not have to be an expert in FFT to chime in on this question and dilemma. This question arises in virtually every method I seek out. The reason why I bring this question (that is very central to my research) to this thread is because FFT is my first choice.
Frank, I know you haven't measured a whole lot so you may not know what percentage increase your girth obtained, but if you were to eyeball it what would you suspect? Or better put - what percent of your penis do you think is fat and what percent is authentic phallus?
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Post by Skeptical One on Dec 14, 2010 14:09:48 GMT -5
Oh and Frank, just so you know - I modified your post and corrected the title: You originally wrote "FTT Progress" but I changed the FTT correctly to FFT. I don't normally police grammar and spelling, but some things I'll tweak 
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Post by frankbean on Dec 14, 2010 14:16:20 GMT -5
Hello Skeptical, i fell into a similar catergory to yourself in regards to starting size (especially in the flaccid state). Before i had this surgery my main aim was to increase my flaccid size. I am a happily married man so my erect size was not the issue for me. I will be honest with you i think the flaccid gain is alot more noticable than the erect gain (don't get me wrong there is definitely an erect gain but not as visible as the flaccid). I think this is due to the volume of the penis when erect so the gains don't look as visible as when in a smaller flaccid state.
It is important to weigh up your options and that what you want to achieve is possible with the method you choose.
Hope this helps a little
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Post by Skeptical One on Dec 14, 2010 14:24:35 GMT -5
Flaccid is definitely a concern. For a guy like myself, who's erect girth rivals other guy's flaccid girths...you can only imagine what my OWN flaccid must look like. Take that a step further and give me some "shrinkage" or "turtling," and you get a penis that refuses to see the light of day. Makes locker rooms, pool/beaches, and other semi-genitalia exposing locations much more avoidable.
But I digress...
We do have some FFT options here in the states, Dr. Giunta for example. He's on the East Coast and offers reasonable rates. I understand he's also performing the Staged-FFT method, but I'm not familiar with his success rate(s). I should perhaps ask him by email or phone what he thinks about those type of gains (that I seek).
Frank, do you know how many CC's of FAT were injected into you each session?
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Post by frankbean on Dec 14, 2010 15:31:36 GMT -5
I am not sure how much was injected at the initial surgery but i can certainly find out. How ever at the top up i had one syringe which i think is 10ml. Next time i will be having 2 syringes.
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Post by Skeptical One on Dec 14, 2010 15:43:54 GMT -5
I received an email back from Dr. Casavantes's office regarding PMMA, and I was told that the gains I was looking for may be too risky with that kind of PMMA volume. This might mean FFT's stock has gone even higher. Two syringes? Man you are going to have a thick one huh? 
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Post by Skeptical One on Dec 15, 2010 7:01:14 GMT -5
yardstick, you'd be surprised how "OKAY" your penis is. Imagine a penis, that has never been enhanced by surgery, possessing stats along the lines of:
3.5" - 3.75" midshaft erect girth (slight variations due to erection quality).
4" NBPEL, 5" BPEL (Not a fat guy, but there is a thick fat pad)
So on a non-bone pressed day with mediocre erection quality, this person whips out a 4 x 3.5...how would you feel about approaching sex then?
sux residing in the gray zone above micro but below "significantly under average"
I really haven't had negative sex experiences because I've kept my experiences far and few. It doesn't help that size queens are attracted to me for some bizarre reason. I'm pretty certain I can justify my phalloplastic pursuits, including the riskier methods.
lolololol
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Post by hoddle10 on Dec 15, 2010 8:50:19 GMT -5
yardstick, you'd be surprised how "OKAY" your penis is. Imagine a penis, that has never been enhanced by surgery, possessing stats along the lines of: 3.5" - 3.75" midshaft erect girth (slight variations due to erection quality). 4" NBPEL, 5" BPEL (Not a fat guy, but there is a thick fat pad) So on a non-bone pressed day with mediocre erection quality, this person whips out a 4 x 3.5...how would you feel about approaching sex then? sux residing in the gray zone above micro but below "significantly under average" I really haven't had negative sex experiences because I've kept my experiences far and few. It doesn't help that size queens are attracted to me for some bizarre reason. I'm pretty certain I can justify my phalloplastic pursuits, including the riskier methods. lolololol Have you been circumcised?
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Post by messageman on Dec 15, 2010 9:53:42 GMT -5
Skeptical One Your time will eventually come. You're playing it smart; soon enough you'll find the enhancement method best suited for your particular situation...and the one with the least amount of risk... Yardstick You will get your length back...This is coming from a guy (as in me) who's had 2 dermal graft surgeries and an implant...Just stretch consistently. Remember, penis enlargement is not a sprint, it's a marathon And regarding sex...Don't be afraid to to test drive your new equipment. When I first got my implant, I lost length...but it was never, ever an issue because the girth made up for it. Turn off the lights if you feel self-conscious...They won't notice 1/2 of an inch in length loss...They will notice the increase in girth. And...My length eventually returned and then some. 
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Post by Skeptical One on Dec 15, 2010 10:53:01 GMT -5
I am circumcised yes. I get a kick going to adult novelty stores and trying to find a toy that I am bigger than. If I find it, its usually a "training wheels" type of mini butt plug. Go figure.
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Post by hoddle10 on Dec 15, 2010 11:25:20 GMT -5
I am circumcised yes. I get a kick going to adult novelty stores and trying to find a toy that I am bigger than. If I find it, its usually a "training wheels" type of mini butt plug. Go figure. If you are cricumcised, not fat, but have what appears to be a 1" fat pad, it could be that you have had too much skin taken away during your circ. What is the angle of the skin at the base of your penis like? Is there a slope at the bottom where the shaft meets the pubic area? I have a theory that if they take too much skin away when circumcising it somehoe stops the penis growing properly. I'm sure this happened to me and my girth is thin as well.
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Post by Skeptical One on Dec 15, 2010 12:08:19 GMT -5
I think my fat pad may also be a result of some weight gain, because my fat pad hasn't always been this thick. The angle of the skin at the base? I'm not quite sure what you mean but my penis harpoons straight out, no turkey neck, and maintains a perpendicular erection.
The penis itself doesn't really appear to be unusual in shape, only unusual in size. But your theory may hold some weight... could you explain what you mean about the angle of the skin at the base? I don't believe there is a slope...
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Post by Skeptical One on Dec 16, 2010 6:18:53 GMT -5
I've seen amazing results in the past, which is why I believe my expectations aren't necessarily that unrealistic. Granted, achieving 6" girth may be a challenge for a variety of reasons, but I'll be happy at the minimum if I could break the 5" benchmark.
I disagree with your assertion that what is available now is what will remain available for years to come. Just this past decade we've seen the improvements in FFT, the evolution of implant prosthesis, and the progress with stem cell which may give way to new techniques years from now.
Quite frankly, had I "made my decision" a few years ago I would have had dermal fat grafts with Dr. K, simply because I was completely unaware of all the other legitimate options, all of which were less known at the time.
I'll continue to wait, plus it'll give me time to save (I rather not pay interest on a loan for something that may or may not work). I feel like I have another year, maybe 2 in me before setting that appointment date with Dr. "UNKNOWN."
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Post by Skeptical One on Dec 16, 2010 6:43:29 GMT -5
Oh and pardon me, we should resume Frankbean's FFT progress thread, haha sorry Frank!!!
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