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Post by justabitmore on May 25, 2011 16:36:40 GMT -5
Dear all I was encouraged by someone called togainornottogain to join this site and share my fft experience. I was a member of MNS until yesterday when I chimed into to give my usual three month update only to find that all content was removed and all there was left was a handful of Elist fans (nothing wrong with being a fan). It felt a bit like Westworld when it all went wrong lol
I had done lots of research of on Macrolane and FFT and wrote several post on the site. There was some good guys there Londonlad, MJsaphire, Unclej and many more and now it seems everyone and everything vanished.
I have scoured some of the posts here and I have to say I am very impressed!
Hope to contribute soon and if anyone is interested I will give a background on my FFT experience.
Take care
JAM
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Post by sheldon on May 27, 2011 21:59:29 GMT -5
Dear all I was encouraged by someone called togainornottogain to join this site and share my fft experience. I was a member of MNS until yesterday when I chimed into to give my usual three month update only to find that all content was removed and all there was left was a handful of Elist fans (nothing wrong with being a fan). It felt a bit like Westworld when it all went wrong lol I had done lots of research of on Macrolane and FFT and wrote several post on the site. There was some good guys there Londonlad, MJsaphire, Unclej and many more and now it seems everyone and everything vanished. I have scoured some of the posts here and I have to say I am very impressed! Hope to contribute soon and if anyone is interested I will give a background on my FFT experience. Take care JAM I am sure there are members here who would like to read about your experience with FFT. Who was the surgeon, Giunta?
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Post by justabitmore on May 28, 2011 1:52:03 GMT -5
Hi Sheldon,
I have posted somebackground on it in a couple of other threads.
Let me say this. I was happy until I read about pmma and I am now considering it.
I was 4' flacid girth and 5' erect before fft and now I am 4.75' flacid and 5.5 plus erect girth it also hangs about 0.25' lower flacid due to weight. I go for small top ups every three months to keep it consistently at this size. my doc is close to work so my theory is that if I am happy to go to the gym four times a week then 20 min every three months is fine to have a nicer penis.
I havent had any problems with it although I suspect a mild case of ed as the fat (theory) might desensitze my penis slightly. basically I have to sometimes go at it really hard to maintain erection. Before fft I was able to carry two heavy towels on my erect cock now I cant carry one for more than ten seconds and I start loosing it. Not a big problem and the upside is that I can go at it like a machine and control orgasms easily.
Again I would sacrifice this and I have no regrets but....
After having read about everyones pmma experience I emalied Wade and currently considering it.
I am not worried about more girth and think that a 7' EL (not bpel) and 5.5 with 6' plus at base is fine.
but if I got abit more (wde think I would as my start is 5' erect girth) then I would not complain.
but I would like to get my hard cock back and I think a hard 5.5 pmma cock will pack more punch than a softer 5.5 fft one.
also as much as I can justify going to DR Viel (who is great btw) four times a year for 160 usd a time I dont like the fact I also have to keep doing lipo every year. I would prefer to go to Mexico three times and then move on in my life.
So yes I am happy and would not go back but I guess now I would like to move forward if that makes sense!
Thanks for reading my post.
have a good weekend
JAM
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Post by supa on May 28, 2011 5:03:25 GMT -5
Hi Justabitmore, Is your FFT story really a good one? I am considering FFT too. You say you need regular top-ups but one of the doctors listed by respecto in another thread, the institution www.the-european-institute-ugrs.com/index.php# which operates in various countries (it is Birmingham for the UK), claims that FFT results are permanent (with their procedure). Moreover, could you elaborate: how much softer is your erect penis (compared to pre FFT condition)? Finally, not sure why your erection strength has been partly affected. This a significant drawback, in my opinion. According to what I have read, this should not happen (question to the PMMA lads: what are the implications wrt erection strength?).
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Post by justabitmore on May 30, 2011 18:23:39 GMT -5
Hi Supa,
In my opinion Viel is the best or at least u there when it comes to FFT in the UK. I don't know the guy in Birmingham but I would question his claim as would mot other fft patients. In the old days they used to fill you up to the brim and and send you home telling you it was permanent. Most people lost size but very unevenly and because of the amount they had injected it caused problems, lumps etc.
I am sorry to say so but if anyone guarantees their method is permanent then I have my doubts. Viel also uses the latest method with placelets in a slow centrifuge but even he will tell you that the results are not permanent.
From what I have read most of the pmma guys are finding their erection and sensitivity improved.
My cock is not soft when it is hard but it is not as hard as when I had no fat. Girls wont notice it but considering that fat is soft it makes sense that it will affect it a little. (and I mean a little because I could easily live with it and no one would notice)
Pmma is heavier in weight versus fat so when you are erect it should feel more solid and therefore feed back from touch and friction should transfer better.
Best get the pmma mob to answer this but I know both GSXR and Jason Bond thought this was the case.
Hope this helped!
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Post by justabitmore on May 30, 2011 18:27:01 GMT -5
Sorry forgot to answer whether my story is a good one. Yes I am happy and considering the alternatives I knew of EList implant and allo/belladerm. I was really happy to have chosen this. I do however believe that pmma is better and I am now very much leaning that way. So yes fft was fine for me with Viel and I would rather have this than my old cock but now I know more about pmma then whilst it doesnt make me unhappy to have fft I believe I could be even happier Hi Justabitmore, Is your FFT story really a good one? I am considering FFT too. You say you need regular top-ups but one of the doctors listed by respecto in another thread, the institution www.the-european-institute-ugrs.com/index.php# which operates in various countries (it is Birmingham for the UK), claims that FFT results are permanent (with their procedure). Moreover, could you elaborate: how much softer is your erect penis (compared to pre FFT condition)? Finally, not sure why your erection strength has been partly affected. This a significant drawback, in my opinion. According to what I have read, this should not happen (question to the PMMA lads: what are the implications wrt erection strength?).
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Post by supa on May 31, 2011 8:00:42 GMT -5
Thank you for your detailed reply justabitmore. It is food for thought for me.
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Post by supa on May 31, 2011 10:52:49 GMT -5
Hi justabitmore
Wrt debate of permanent vs temporary results via FFT, you might want to have a look at my latest post in the "Surgical Procedures and Surgeons in Europe" thread Would love to read your expert opinion on a detailed claim made by certified surgeon which I have copied and pasted.
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Post by hoddle10 on May 31, 2011 11:33:52 GMT -5
If FFT could produce consistently permanent results then no other soft tissue filler would be used in plastic surgery. Any Dr who tells you that it will be permanent is a liar. If method existed to ensure the fat is permanent then the creator of this method would be hugely rich, as it would mean no more facial fillers such as restaylene, silcone boob jobs, buttock implants or cheek implants. There is a reason they use other materials for volume filling and it really isn't because no one else has come across the "wonderous" techniques of Dr Jethon or Giunta. Some people to report long term success with FFT, but the results are very inconsistent.
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Post by supa on May 31, 2011 12:53:26 GMT -5
Your view is exactly the same as justabitmore (who had FFT himself). Clearly your points are very strong.
I just want to point out though that in another tread IDM who underwent FFT himself made the point that absorbtion was greatly reduced (hence some or most of that fat actually stayed) as platelet enrichment treatment of the grafts was used.
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Post by Skeptical One on May 31, 2011 12:57:17 GMT -5
supaI believe IDM has faith in the overall improvement in retention rates, although I'm not sure he would ever say it was 100%. I hope he chimes in because he's one of the few reporting members with positive things to say about his own procedure.
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Post by supa on May 31, 2011 13:01:47 GMT -5
Thank you for the clarification S.O. Much appreciated.
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Post by hoddle10 on May 31, 2011 13:14:54 GMT -5
Your view is exactly the same as justabitmore (who had FFT himself). Clearly your points are very strong. I just want to point out though that in another tread IDM who underwent FFT himself made the point that absorbtion was greatly reduced (hence some or most of that fat actually stayed) as platelet enrichment treatment of the grafts was used. I know another guy who had an equally good result. But likewise there are others who have posted about their dissapointment with the platelet treatment. It's nothing revolutionary and has been used in other areas of plastic surgery for a while, but again with inconsistent results. No matter how many good results you read about, there is no getting around the fact that if this really gave consistent and permanent results, it would litrerally mean the end for a large portion of the soft tissue filler industry. It hasn't and for good reason. I'm not advising you not to get it done, as I know of guys such as IDM that have had good results. I'm really just telling you not to take waht you are told by Dr Jethon as the truth, as it really isn't. I'm not totally against FFT, in the way I am other procedures. I know there are studies that suggest advances have been made, but in terms of real world examples, from what I've read, I'd say fat survival rates are now the same as they were 10 years ago. The biggest difference I see now, which is leading to improved results, is that surgeons are making smaller injections. If you read about Sidney Coleman, the fat grafting technique sounds great and as I've said there are studies which support his claims. But if you then search for patients who have fat transfer via the Coleman technique, a great deal aren't at all happy with the results. So whilst there is a reasonable chance you'd have agood result with FFT, don't be totally confident based on what Dr Jethon says. I've read his site and he does talk alot of shit. I don't know if he's changed it, but until recently he was saying Macrolane was just as good as fat and also warning patients from wearing ADS devices prior to surgery, as most aren't safe and he will provide a proper medical one. He then sells the patient a Jes extedner!
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Post by justabitmore on May 31, 2011 14:52:31 GMT -5
I agree and concur with Hoddle on this one entirely! And Marolane which Viel used for a while is just not right for the penis...It took Viel some months to realise this but he certainly doenst use it anymore. I also read IDMs results and I was impressed. I have read many other peoples results and was less impressed. What I will say is that people like Viel who uses small amounts and have a high level of experience generally have no problems and I believe it to be a fairly safe and un complicated procedure. Read Fairly as no poking around the body is never the best of ideas! Your view is exactly the same as justabitmore (who had FFT himself). Clearly your points are very strong. I just want to point out though that in another tread IDM who underwent FFT himself made the point that absorbtion was greatly reduced (hence some or most of that fat actually stayed) as platelet enrichment treatment of the grafts was used. I know another guy who had an equally good result. But likewise there are others who have posted about their dissapointment with the platelet treatment. It's nothing revolutionary and has been used in other areas of plastic surgery for a while, but again with inconsistent results. No matter how many good results you read about, there is no getting around the fact that if this really gave consistent and permanent results, it would litrerally mean the end for a large portion of the soft tissue filler industry. It hasn't and for good reason. I'm not advising you not to get it done, as I know of guys such as IDM that have had good results. I'm really just telling you not to take waht you are told by Dr Jethon as the truth, as it really isn't. I'm not totally against FFT, in the way I am other procedures. I know there are studies that suggest advances have been made, but in terms of real world examples, from what I've read, I'd say fat survival rates are now the same as they were 10 years ago. The biggest difference I see now, which is leading to improved results, is that surgeons are making smaller injections. If you read about Sidney Coleman, the fat grafting technique sounds great and as I've said there are studies which support his claims. But if you then search for patients who have fat transfer via the Coleman technique, a great deal aren't at all happy with the results. So whilst there is a reasonable chance you'd have agood result with FFT, don't be totally confident based on what Dr Jethon says. I've read his site and he does talk alot of shit. I don't know if he's changed it, but until recently he was saying Macrolane was just as good as fat and also warning patients from wearing ADS devices prior to surgery, as most aren't safe and he will provide a proper medical one. He then sells the patient a Jes extedner!
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Post by supa on Jun 1, 2011 11:43:28 GMT -5
Thank you, hoddle10. This forum rocks!:-)
I wonder whether the following technical questions on FFT have been answered in other parts of this forum: 1) I have been a smoker in the past but I have quit altogether around the beginning of the year. Does my status of ex-smoker have implications (everything else equal) with regards to the success of the FFT procedure. 2) I am not interested in penis lengthening but only in girth increase. Should I nevertheless stretch prior to FFT surgery as otherwise the result could be less satisfactory? My goal is more girth in erect state. Nothing else.
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