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Post by sheldon on Apr 19, 2011 11:05:39 GMT -5
Does Dr. C recommend to stop smoking a few weeks before PMMA? How about steroids? As I recall some members posted their post-op PMMA results against a pack of cigarettes as a reference to illustrate the gains received. The reason why I ask is that one of the more infamous people got a less than optimal result on his 2nd girth procedure and it MAY have been due to his smoking, steroid use, and obesity.
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Post by turtlish1 on Apr 19, 2011 11:31:49 GMT -5
Thank you so much for all the feedback... Does ANYONE out there have an honest opinion of which Dr is better or gets better reports from their patients on the testicular enhancement procedure...? (elist or reed)...
***ALSO*** I'm now hearing the PMMA injections create more of a "puffy, fat looking unit" with a far less ability to get really really hard... IE - that it no longer has the ability to get really hard, but instead, just kind of continues to "puff up" and stay sort of in a 3/4 or nearly hard but not ever getting really truly hard state... This a rumour, yes, but still I am hearing it.. This is just something I heard from someone who went the elist implant route... I have no idea if its true...
If this IS true then it seems that even though it may look more natural than the implant in the flaccid state, that its primary purpose of "penetration" would be hindered...!! This would not be good for Mr Turtle... not good at all since i have a hard enough time coming out of my shell and penetrating all ready... So, I'm asking ANYONE who would please respond to this comment / rumor and state that if the PMMA treatment(s) DOES NOT inhibit a good, solid hard on, PLEASE let me know...
Turtlish1 hopes this makes sense... !!
@so -- River City is simply generic for saying Turtlish1 is from "Somewhere in America".... IE - River City USA...
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Post by Skeptical One on Apr 19, 2011 11:49:50 GMT -5
@turtlish1
Such side-effects have not been reported here (yet) and the bulk of the WORLD's information regarding PMMA for the penis can be found here. If what you have is purely a rumor, then consider it faulty info and throw it into the waste bin. Besides, if there was a small chance for this effect, I can't imagine how it would hinder penetration with the use of lube.
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Post by moregirth on Apr 19, 2011 11:51:44 GMT -5
@turtlish: I've had PMMA and have no problems achieving hard erections
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Post by hoddle10 on Apr 19, 2011 12:05:03 GMT -5
Thank you so much for all the feedback... Does ANYONE out there have an honest opinion of which Dr is better or gets better reports from their patients on the testicular enhancement procedure...? (elist or reed)... ***ALSO*** I'm now hearing the PMMA injections create more of a "puffy, fat looking unit" with a far less ability to get really really hard... IE - that it no longer has the ability to get really hard, but instead, just kind of continues to "puff up" and stay sort of in a 3/4 or nearly hard but not ever getting really truly hard state... This a rumour, yes, but still I am hearing it.. This is just something I heard from someone who went the elist implant route... I have no idea if its true... If this IS true then it seems that even though it may look more natural than the implant in the flaccid state, that its primary purpose of "penetration" would be hindered...!! This would not be good for Mr Turtle... not good at all since i have a hard enough time coming out of my shell and penetrating all ready... So, I'm asking ANYONE who would please respond to this comment / rumor and state that if the PMMA treatment(s) DOES NOT inhibit a good, solid hard on, PLEASE let me know... Turtlish1 hopes this makes sense... !! @so -- River City is simply generic for saying Turtlish1 is from "Somewhere in America".... IE - River City USA... How would anyone who has had the Elist implant know that? The members of this forum who have had PMMA have reported it to be harder than their natural erections. It just sounds like the sort of thing Elist and his shills would make up to be honest. How did you come across the Elist patient who told you this? The members of this forum searched like crazy and were only able to find 1 guy from the US who had PMMA and he didn't reply when attempts were made to contanct him. But besides the difficulty in finding people who have had PMMA or the accounts posted here, when you think about how the process works, it's not going to be soft. I think whoever told you that has just totally made it up, having assumed PMMA was like other soft tissue fillers or like fat. I know Dr Elist himself didn't even have a clue what PMMA was a couple of years ago, but never the less, put one of his silicone implants on top of it. The photos of the disaster that ensued can be found of Dr Reeds site. It sounds to me like he still hasn't grasped it. I actually expect we'll see some Dr Elist shills coming along shortly to attack PMMA, with false claims of disasterous results. This is why it's so important that our members who are going the PMMA route start there own progress threads, with before, after and during photo's. That way if something does go wrong it's all very transparent. If we start seeing random claims of problems with PMMA, with no previous posting or photographic history, my first thought would be Dr Elist shills. His website currently dismisses all other previously known techniques and a member here and at MNS, who has a hugley suspicious story is doing the same, whilst supporting the Elist implant. Surely it wont be long before they target what is now becoming their biggest rival. Elist has put years into his implant and now PMMA seems to have come along, costing 1/5 price and so far giving better results. Surely they can't stand for this for much longer. TJ is so close to LA and Elist depends on his implant for his livelihood. The logical move has to be to attack PMMA.
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Post by gsxr7501941 on Apr 19, 2011 12:55:31 GMT -5
My erections are hard if not harder than before the surgery. My girlfriend loves it.
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Post by mustang2020 on Apr 19, 2011 13:19:13 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how long t1 will stay on this board.
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Post by Skeptical One on Apr 19, 2011 13:41:52 GMT -5
@turtlish1
Whereabouts do you reside if you don't mind me asking?
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Post by turtlish1 on Apr 19, 2011 14:19:15 GMT -5
Hi All... Apologies in advance for the long, slow, turtlish answer... To begin, Turtlish1 certainly did NOT mean to cause an uproar... All Turtlish1 is saying is that -- I -- Turtlish1 -- did indeed speak with someone who (over the phone only) supposedly had the elist implant... He is -- again supposedly -- approx 11 weeks post op and says is happy with it... I asked him about PMMA and basically shared with him that I had located this thread on this site and that I am very interested in PMMA and think this thread is pretty much the most current PMMA information out there... So, after I gain enough knowledge thru research & if I can conquer my fear, I plan on having PMMA with Dr C combined with testicle enhancement from another Dr... (perhaps elist, reed or someone else) ... Hopefully this sounds logical as -- to me Turtlish1-- it certainly is because that is exactly what I'm planning on doing if I can ever get thru the fear... This person then basically stated he had heard that PMMA (he had heard) was more about making the penis "plumper, fluffier... kind of a fluffed up kind of thing" & that is more difficult to get really really hard... This person was NOT -- repeat -- NOT slamming PMMA at all... He simply stated this was something he had heard.. He then asked me about the LONG TERM STABILITY of the PMMA effects... I replied I dont know enough to really comment on that... He then stated it is his understanding PMMA has been "out there" for some 10 years now and that there should be folks out there now who can report back on their PMMA gains status after 3, 5 & even up to 8-10 years post op (PMMA)... and BTW -- Turtlish1 is planning on sticking around a while to follow this thread.. Again - thanks for all the feedback and obviously I"m being a bit light hearted and having some fun with it as well.... hopefully everyone out there is NOT too darn serious about life that you cant stop and laugh at my Turtlish take on tending to my tool.. ---
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Post by Skeptical One on Apr 19, 2011 14:39:01 GMT -5
@turtlish1
Rumors thrown into a thread of serious & mature conversation about a trending method will always be met with uproar, did you expect anything else?
Don't listen to any Dr. Elist referrals, they are in the business of bashing everything but the implant. We are seeing this all the time, this isn't me making it up. And of course the referral you speak of was slamming PMMA, why else would he suggest an unfounded rumor from a source that likely doesn't exist (like hoddle said, it's not easy finding PMMA patients outside this board). Ask this same referral what he knows about the implant's long-term success rate(s) since he's so keen on asking you about PMMA's.
The fluffier plumper effect from my understanding is the post-op healing phase where there is extra swelling. My understanding is that it does subside in time. Chances are sexual intercourse during that time may not be optimal. But there is no report of poorer erection, which you claim your source/referral said, which is also, in effect, bashing PMMA.
I should note, falsifying information regarding a surgical technique is a clear violation of forum rules and anyone who wishes to toss rumors around in the future will face account suspension/ban. People are here making objective decisions on what to do with their hard earned money, and more importantly, one & only penis.
Lastly, you didn't answer my question: Where abouts do you reside?
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Post by Evil Pnievel on Apr 19, 2011 14:40:04 GMT -5
Brother T1:
My erections are hard. There is no "fluffy" or "puffed" feel.
Have you participated at any other PE sites? Oddly, your style/flow of writing looks familiar.
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Post by mikehok on Apr 19, 2011 14:43:20 GMT -5
Turtlish you didn't by any chance used to be Kevin or Jacksonw did you ?
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Post by Skeptical One on Apr 19, 2011 15:08:46 GMT -5
100 pages! 50,000+ Views!
The Moderators (and myself) are going to work on compiling a type of Phallo-Wiki for Surgical PE that will outline virtually everything known on all the major girth procedures (as well as a tidbit on lengthening) in the coming months. I believe our members can also be useful in this regard.
I will start a thread here (or at the Feedback Forum) soon for members to contribute should they choose to. Contributing to the PE Glossary found in the Announcement Section can also be helpful.
This will be useful so that members wont have to search pages after pages to learn about Alloderm or FFT. It will also be useful for those researching PMMA to refer to the wiki article rather than scouring 100 + pages here (although this thread will always be a recommended read).
Just throwing that out there because it's becoming next to impossible to find certain info that I know is somewhere in this massive thread.
------------------------------------------------------- and on a side note, hoddle makes a valid point... with the increase in shill activity both here and over at MNS, it isn't illogical to think that they will start targeting PMMA next (like they did with alloderm/belladerm before). If Dr. C's method is as viable as it seems (time will tell), it has more than enough potential to disrupt all American phalloplasty practices. I will have to be careful on how I enforce this in the future without coming off as "protecting" PMMA much like Elist shills do of the implant.
That's where I hope the forum members come in. Thanks again for your continued vigilance and smarts!
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Post by docsavage on Apr 19, 2011 15:22:46 GMT -5
I have had two PMMA procedures and my erections are at least as firm as they have ever been, and perhaps more. My wife, in her typical reserved and roundabout way, commented on the increased girth and the firmness.
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Post by Evil Pnievel on Apr 19, 2011 15:41:45 GMT -5
SO: Congrats on 100 pages. Man, we have come so far, so soon.
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