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Post by gsxr7501941 on Jan 10, 2011 22:44:22 GMT -5
I meant i was just above average girth and around average length
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Post by idm on Jan 11, 2011 0:31:32 GMT -5
Hoddle-
Thank you for posting this very important article! VERY interesting! Necrosis can result from an infection but some surgeries carry greater risks of this than others. There are cases where people have gotten face lifts and tissue has become necrotic @ the incision site-in cases like variables come into play ie: integrity of the individuals immune system, whether one has underlying infections, is on medication, is a smoker (which makes healing more challenging) and so on...
Its also important to note that as we age, our health changes and infections can seemingly result spontaneously, either due to changes in our overall health or as a result of an immunological conflict in waiting, so to speak, as is often the case w/foreign materials that are implanted into the body.
In the article it states immune response was indicated in the pmma groups only, and that pmma may not be 'as bio inert as (previously)considered". This is very important information.
Pmma is a chemical compound...what its mixed with, the amount, and density of the pmma MAKES FOR DIFFERENT PRODUCTS. The fact that this IS a cement makes it different than the injectable filler we're discussing here. The size of the molecules are different and to my knowledge there's no biosphere carrier as in the injectable.
I know I'm the broken record here (sorry guys) but my sense is that the risk level elevates significantly when people start experimenting w/large volumes of product...especially when the organic tissue to "product" ratio is out of proportion-its dangerous.
This is such an enticing product! But for now, I personally am going to hold to my original position which is that pmma needs to develop a greater track record before considering it myself. Dr Casavantes seems to be very conscientious-hopefully this approach will consistently yield positive results.
Gsxr-i know I speak for all when I say we're all wishing you the best!!!
Idm
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Post by jasonbond on Jan 11, 2011 10:49:14 GMT -5
Gsxr my earlier question about under average was for envision. I emailed Dr. C about necrosis here is reply. Hoddle and idm
Hello, These are reasonable expectations for our girth enhancement procedure. Most all of our patients report increased sensation and less retraction. Documented clinical data regarding PMMA procedures dates back twenty years. Patients should wait six weeks before having additional treatments to the treated area. Necrosis is a result of product being injected into an artery or vein with the use of a needle. Using the micro cannula eliminates this risk. PMMA is completely inert, and has no pharmacological effects on the body. Please contact me with any additional questions that you may have.
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Post by hoddle10 on Jan 11, 2011 11:03:17 GMT -5
Gsxr my earlier question about under average was for envision. I emailed Dr. C about necrosis here is reply. Hoddle and idm Hello, These are reasonable expectations for our girth enhancement procedure. Most all of our patients report increased sensation and less retraction. Documented clinical data regarding PMMA procedures dates back twenty years. Patients should wait six weeks before having additional treatments to the treated area. Necrosis is a result of product being injected into an artery or vein with the use of a needle. Using the micro cannula eliminates this risk. PMMA is completely inert, and has no pharmacological effects on the body. Please contact me with any additional questions that you may have. Good to hear that, as necrosis was by far my biggest concern. The article I posted also suggests that necrocsis could be more to do with the technique rather than simply how the body reacts.
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Post by gsxr7501941 on Jan 11, 2011 17:24:01 GMT -5
well guys i just back to my hotel in San Diego. The procedure went quick and easy, except that I am bruising pretty bad. They put 12 cc's of material in. I bruise pretty bad anyways, so I am not worried about it. I figured it would happen. I had a partial erection, and I cannot get my hand around it, it looks great. I imagine with a full on erection it will be even better. It hasnt retracted either, which is what I was really hoping for. Dr C said that he actually put a small amount into his own to test it out. And has PMMA all over his body, as well as the other people who work at the office. They are doing several procedures a week and have not had any issues. One guy had some removed, apparently he had too much put in, and the girlfriend or wife was upset, i guess it didnt work the way it used to. So maybe bigger isnt always better. I am mostly excited about the flaccid appearance, and my pants are filled out a bit more. Hopefully the bruising goes down here soon.
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Post by hoddle10 on Jan 11, 2011 17:29:02 GMT -5
Really glad things went well. I'm looking forward to following your progress.
How long did the procedure take and was there any pain?
What after care instructions have you been given and when can you have sex?
Even if you don't want to post them at the moment it would be great if you could take some photo's of how it looks now so others can know what to expect. One of the scariest things following any type of cosmetic enhancement is not know if it is healing as it should be, so it would be useful to have a frame of refference for guys who have this done in the future.
Best of luck!
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Post by gsxr7501941 on Jan 11, 2011 20:01:30 GMT -5
There wasnt much pain except at first when they stuck me with the needle to numb the area. It was weird having 3 men, a dr, nurse and an assistant touching and looking at your penis. When they gave me the anesthetic, i think they popped a blood vessel because my bruising has been soo bad. It was almost instant after they gave me the lydocaine that I started bruising. It is a little lumpy, well maybe lumpy isnt the word, but some areas are more swollen than others. I do not have my camera with me, but when I get home tomorrow I will take pictures and post for sure. Erect result is better than flaccid so far because of the swelling. No itching or anything like that. They said after 48 hours the stuff has basically set in place. Also they gave me an antihistamine shot, that is good for 30 days. My girlfriend is going to kill me....I could get my hand all the way around before, but now mid shaft there is about an inch between my fingers. Hopefully she doesnt freak too bad...
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Post by gsxr7501941 on Jan 11, 2011 20:05:39 GMT -5
Guys I forgot to mention. Dr C said that he has had several former patients from dr elist. Guys who had the implant taken out and came to him to get the pmma injection. He said the skin was stretched too much with the implant, and that is why people were probably losing length.
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Post by envisionmore on Jan 11, 2011 20:23:16 GMT -5
gsxr
and just think as the collagen forms around the PMMA you could see more girth increase in the days to come. I wonder how of your increase is the swelling and how much is the injection? Did you watch as Dr C performed the injection?
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Post by gsxr7501941 on Jan 11, 2011 21:05:54 GMT -5
Well i got a decent erection...its kind of hard in a hotel room and with a black and blue dick...still bleeding a little from one of the cannula entry points, which is good, blood is good, and I am a bleeder no matter what I do for most cuts. I was able to measure a little above the base, and it was 6.4 around erect, I imagine that part of this is due to swelling, however if I get a full on erection I imagine it will even out over time. I might go home and not have a girlfriend anymore, shes going to kill me, hopefully after she gets over the initial shock shell like it. I definately did this for me and not her.
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Post by jasonbond on Jan 11, 2011 22:44:51 GMT -5
gsxr7501941
So wait the procedure is done in San Diego? Or is that just where you're transported from where surgery is done? And wow You said someone had it removed I just spoke to Anna Love from Clinic' estetica. she said it cannot be removed. She also said they don't use "New Plastic" PMMA and said because that's what it is. She will be emailing me numbers and emails of past patients. She said it forms Fibrotic tissue (i think thats what she said its called.)and compared it to tissue that shrinks due to losing weight etc which cant happen from this type of tissue.
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Post by jasonbond on Jan 11, 2011 22:48:26 GMT -5
here is my email to Clinic’estetica
Hello I am emailing regarding PMMA in the penis for girth.
1. How many cc's do you inject?
The quantity of product that is used is dependent on the size of the penis. As we charge a flat fee for this procedure, we use as much product as is required for the maximum results.
And is it permanent?
The implantation material that Clinic’estetica uses is specifically designed for this type of purpose (in its viscosity) pmma based and is considered permanent.
2. I know it depends on patient but do you think a gain of 50% has been achieved?
The penis must be circumcised for this procedure regardless of the gain desired. The only exception to being circumcised is if a patient wants a minor correction for shape. A 50% gain can be achieved with multiple procedures.
3. What are the risk when injected to the penis? I heard of that model who had butt injections with PMMA so i want to know if something like what happened to her can happen?
I am not sure who you are referring to, but every type of medical procedure has its risks. When using a safe product, the concern should not be with it, but with who is doing the injecting. The point is that even the best of medical practitioners with the best of intentions can and sometimes do make mistakes as I am sure is what happened to whomever you were referring to.
4. What kind of PMMA do you use?
Our product of choice has been used successfully without any adverse reactions for 5 years. It is water based therefore there is no concern about any allergic reactions. It was researched and developed by a sister company here in Mexico, animal tested prior to its use in humans and has 100’s of people that speak well of it.
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Post by jasonbond on Jan 11, 2011 22:51:14 GMT -5
Dear Patient,
Thank you for contacting Clinic'estetica and for your interest in our service.
Our PMMA filler is applicable for almost all soft tissue applications. With the techniques that the physicians at Clinic'estetica have perfected and the versatility of the product the results are excellent.
Clinic’estetica’s PMMA based permanent filler (a fact sheet is attached to this email) induces the body to create tissue around the implanted particles there by giving the added volume and shape that is desired.
The amount of Clinic’estetica’s soft tissue augmentation product that can be implanted in a single session is dependent on the amount of elasticity in the skin and underlying tissue.
In order to supply the information you have asked for, the following is required:
Photos:
Age:
Height:
Weight:
Phone number:
Best time to reach you?
City/State:
Previous cosmetic surgery? When?
Previous treatments with fillers? When?
Fillers used:
HIV Disease?
Multiple Sclerosis?
Lupus?
Any chronic illness?
Where did you here from Clinic’estetica?
Upon receipt of the above an estimate for the desired procedures will be sent.
For additional information or to have specific questions answered please feel free to contact me at this email address or by phone at the numbers below.
Sincerely,
Diana Favela
Administrator
Clinic'estetica ®
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Post by envisionmore on Jan 11, 2011 23:21:19 GMT -5
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Post by envisionmore on Jan 12, 2011 1:09:48 GMT -5
Here's a couple more. One is an update on Fred the guy in the picture blog since his last injection.
feed://diametropeniano.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default?orderby=updated
feed://fotologaumentopeniano.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default?orederby=updated
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