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Post by mustang2020 on Dec 8, 2010 16:50:17 GMT -5
I talked to Dr. Runels a couple of weeks ago and he really sounded like a genuine guy who's a bit laid back but does not care too muck about the INTERNET thing, so may be he will respond soon... I do hope his method works, I would consider it seriously.
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Post by Skeptical One on Dec 8, 2010 17:15:42 GMT -5
I think Mustang's assessment of the doc's "laid back" nature may have something to do with the delay in receiving the information lol.
He did assure me it was of importance and that he would get it to me, so we'll just have to hope & see
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Post by new1inch on Dec 12, 2010 18:48:38 GMT -5
wow.. is this thread dead already? i was really interested in this procedure
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Post by Skeptical One on Dec 12, 2010 20:36:43 GMT -5
I'm hoping that this conversation will pick up again new1inch - right now I believe most everybody was waiting to hear back from the doctor regarding a lengthy Q&A submitted to him.
I have been told that it was on his priority list and that I would soon receive it but that was a while back. I have had multiple correspondences and am going to write him tonight (again.)
If anyone cares to chime in in the meantime, please do.
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Post by mustang2020 on Dec 13, 2010 0:18:05 GMT -5
Hey, it is Xmas time, Dr. Runels already has his big penis and he is taking his time ...So we may have to wait for a bit longer
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Post by new1inch on Dec 13, 2010 14:49:42 GMT -5
thanks skepticalone. i have my hope up with this one because i can actually afford it:D ..... @ mustang..lol that was funny
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Post by idm on Dec 17, 2010 13:55:33 GMT -5
Hi: I have some info I'd like to share on this topic. PRFM, formally known as Platelet Rich Fibrin Matrix is a treatment that is currently being used for tissue repair, especially in sports medicine. It seems to have a fair success rate. I personally believe it is based on wise scientific principles. Note this is another "autoluogous" treatment, meaning the material is derived essentially from the patients own body. I believe this concept and bio engineering are the way of the future in treating disese and in aesthetic procedure. I personally do not believe in the introduction of foreign materials to the body especially synthetic materials for any reason other then those which may be necessary to save ones life, such as a stent, lap band or in cases of E.D, that sort of implant (which is certainly not a life threatening condition) . The commercial product name for prfm is SELPHYL, and this is being used as a soft tissue filler. A web search will yield photo results. If the shot is deemed safe for the purpose of penile augmentation, my hypothesis if its correct, (and I suspect it is), is that this product will be helpful in repairing/restoring and/or strengthening penile function and additionally offer "some" gains. I suspect due to the platelet/stem cell factor and therefore to the potential to repair this procedure may be an excellent complimentary procedure to those who have had certain phalloplasty procedures such as fft. I don't see why other graft (all/bellodrm recipients wouldn't be able to have this as well. As for the prosthetic, unless Runnels was willing to just augment the glans, this procedure wouldn't work for practical reasons...ie: the implant is subcutaneous and runs along the c.cavernosa. If the penile results are consistent with the results when applied to the face for aesthetic purposes only, and if the before and after photos are accurate depictions as to what one may expect, there's a chance one may be disappointed if what you atre seeking is a drastic enlargement. We don't know for sure b/c we lack information. One of my main questions for DrRunnels would be: how does the use of platelets (which play an important role in the clotting process) NOT cause clotting in this application. A brief explanation of the science behind it would be greatly appreciated. (I'm sure there IS an explanation otherwise people would be forming blood clots from procedures using this product, and that's very dangerous. In the meantime, we wait to hear from the good doctor. IDM wow.. is this thread dead already? i was really interested in this procedure
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Post by mustang2020 on Dec 18, 2010 6:29:06 GMT -5
When I talked to Dr. Runels, he did tell me that he adds some safe chemicals to stop the clotting from happening just before he injects the PRFM into the patient's penis. He did confirm to me that he has only a very few minutes to do it.
I really hope we can get some answers and more importantly some good clear pix of before and after...
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Post by Skeptical One on Feb 5, 2011 23:44:11 GMT -5
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Post by honested on Feb 5, 2011 23:51:37 GMT -5
A little bit sketch.
Have you heard the audio of him talking? He is a weird dude.
The previous document pertains to some vaccine and I do not think to PE, but it is still concerning, especially the bit about how he pulled homeless people off the street into his studies.
It's also odd that he has not gotten back to us. Still, his procedure did have some reasonably logical ideas from a medical standpoint.
We'll have to wait and see.
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Post by donjuannabe on Feb 6, 2011 11:59:42 GMT -5
honested, I know what you mean, it does sound reasonably logical. I don't have much knowledge in science and medicine, but from what I have read about stem cells, and various cosmetic procedures Dr. Runels method sounds like it could work. Another thing re the audio on his site that concerns me is that he seems to only have a maximum observation period of 18 months and believes the treatment to last at least this long (if I understood it correctly). If it didn't last longer than this I can only imagine how much it would suck to see length and girth gains disappear when the treatment wore off. But then again if this method uses stem cells then why wouldn't it be permanent? Presuming this method is valid at all, of course. Frustrating that the carrot is just out of reach, lol.
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Post by Skeptical One on Feb 7, 2011 10:41:10 GMT -5
Dr. Runels has posted to Vlarkson's thread @ the Patient Support Group forum. I have advised him to email me to confirm that it is in fact really him so I can provide him a unique account for the sake of discussion. I also provided him a link where I believe it would be best served for him to answer questions in. Given his ability to show up and quickly disappear, there is no telling if his first post here is a sign of things to come. I also updated Dr. Runel's profile in the SURGICAL-METHODS forum.
He claims that since he is still in the patent phase that he is not at liberty to explain the whole concept but will answer what he can in the meantime.
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Post by Skeptical One on Feb 7, 2011 10:59:26 GMT -5
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Post by unclejj on Feb 9, 2011 1:38:21 GMT -5
Wizard: Thanks for your questions...I agree....I would like to know.
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Post by idm on Feb 9, 2011 14:09:43 GMT -5
Really good conversation...
Prfm, holds MUCH promise b/c the science behind it it sound. There are many supportive articles on the net.
This shouldn't be confused w/the simple method of injecting filler which acts as a catalyst in collagen synthesis.
The extent to which this treatment can help remains the question for me personally. The potential which prfm holds for treatment of serious disease/tissue repair is VERY exciting.
In my opinion, the reason we're not hearing much from Runels is b/c he's trying to secure some type of patent...(Just a hunch). Creating a registered and protected "name" for the exclusive use of a SELPHYL "type" product for use in penile enhancement. He will be able tosurely be able to develop this, BUT he cannot prevent another from coming up w/their version (or name) for what is essentially the same treatment.
Someone asked about fft over silicone implant, should ask a doctor w/ a lot of experience performing the latest fft technique. Unless the specific area you're considering treating doesn't not an area where the implant is located, in my opinion, it will not work b/c the fat Graft will not beable to connect to the underlying tissue and vascularize. If you intend on keeping the implant but seek subtle refinement, and if you are not inclined to have the doctor who implanted the prostethetic, make a revision, you may consider a modest amount of pmma in specific areas to refine contour.
Just my thoughts.
Good Luck
Idm
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