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Post by allgood on May 24, 2011 21:36:12 GMT -5
Hey guys,
I'm four days PMMA post-op and have a definite case of "the ring," aka the centimeter-or-so gap where the PMMA ends and the glans begins. I'm hoping it will be less noticeable as swelling subsides, but I have some questions for the PMMA vets:
The skin after the circumcision line is still puffy/pillowy. It flares out slightly where it touches my relatively small glans. At four days post-op, is this going to go down any further, thereby reducing the ring when the penis is stretched, or is that simply the form the collagen/PMMA takes on that part of the penis?
Has anyone had the ring filled in? Can it be filled in? I can't tell if it's caused by the PMMA not settling there because it was bunched up against the glans or the penis simply can't take a filler in that area. The former would obviously be preferable for a touch-up, though it may be a combination of the two.
Anyway, the puffiness/ring is kind of freaking me out but the overall improvement to my penis is still making me glad I did the procedure. I regret not stressing a specific desire for tapering ("don't give me a beer can," I said) but if the gap can be filled in later on at a lower concentration, it might be better I did it this way in the long run. Part of me wishes I had tried a stretcher, because I'm thinking it may have allowed the PMMA a more even distribution, but who knows. If I go back to get the gap filled, I'll probably use a stretcher for that.
Thanks again for all the knowledge shared here, guys. At the moment, despite some of my uncertainty about aesthetics, I'm glad I made the trip.
All the best, allgood
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Post by sizemic on May 24, 2011 22:23:49 GMT -5
So the "ring" is where the PMMA ends about a cm before the glans? Are you saying that the shaft is thicker, then a thinner ring where there is no PMMA then big again due to swelling of the circ skin?
Sometimes when I pump I use a about 0.5" silicone sheath over the circ skin to prevent a donut... Would the use of something like this be benificial? or does everyone think it would just worsen the "ring" effect due to keeping the PMMA out of that area?
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Post by allgood on May 24, 2011 22:47:06 GMT -5
So the "ring" is where the PMMA ends about a cm before the glans? Are you saying that the shaft is thicker, then a thinner ring where there is no PMMA then big again due to swelling of the circ skin? the shaft up to the circ skin is pretty much a can't miss thing. but once it hits the circ skin, at least for me, is where it gets weird, esp because my glans is pretty small. the circ skin looks swollen, but its puffy and soft, so i'm unsure at this point if its fluid/swelling or just the way it's intended to be. then, after the puffy donut that is the circ skin in the flaccid state, is where "ring" i'm talking about occurs. it's not really noticeable in the flaccid state because the puffy circ skin billows onto the glans. but in the erect state you can clearly see where the pmma stops and the glans doesn't start for about a cm or so. so it looks like there's a gap between your circ skin and glans. i should also note that i was circumcized really far down, so about a third, maybe nearly half of of my shaft was circ skin before the procedure. now the circ area is much smaller but it's bunched up
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Post by emptyyogurtcup on May 24, 2011 23:54:29 GMT -5
Hey allgood,
I'm still wrapped up right now but I just got back from my second session. After my first session I had a SERIOUS ring'age going out with about 1/2" from the end of the PMMA till the base of the glans. This was mainly because I am 7"+ erect and shrink down to 4 1/2 flacid. They've done a really really nice job of filling it in this time around. Ring will definately swell from the PMMA but if it doesn't go away you really should assume that the first session is just a beginning point to get the PMMA into the penis and see where it settles. Then the second session they start drawing how the penis reacted to the first sessions and know how to approach it smooth it out.
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Post by ssf35 on May 25, 2011 0:03:11 GMT -5
man don't be too alarmed I am 7 days post and it has gone down a lot. You have to remember he made entry points on 4 places of the circ skin. My swelling is still going down although I dont think much more I do still have the circ skin being wider then the glands though and the puffiness in flac but it does get hard during an erection. check out my pics tell me if yours looks the same. I also said I wanted a consistent shape, cylindrical through out the areas of fill. My next visit i will get more of a taper bc I think this will make the circ skin more proportionate to the glands.
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Post by allgood on May 25, 2011 0:42:52 GMT -5
Hey allgood, I'm still wrapped up right now but I just got back from my second session. After my first session I had a SERIOUS ring'age going out with about 1/2" from the end of the PMMA till the base of the glans. This was mainly because I am 7"+ erect and shrink down to 4 1/2 flacid. They've done a really really nice job of filling it in this time around. Ring will definately swell from the PMMA but if it doesn't go away you really should assume that the first session is just a beginning point to get the PMMA into the penis and see where it settles. Then the second session they start drawing how the penis reacted to the first sessions and know how to approach it smooth it out. hey, good to hear that they were able to fill you in...you probably can't tell yet, but tomorrow could you report back on whether it's going all the way up to the glans this time or if there's still a bit of a gap? also, i'm assuming the fact that you were able to be filled means this must be caused by the pmma bunching up, not something in the penis that causes filler not to collect there. couple questions: did you use a lower concentration in the gap to taper to the glans? (this may not be a problem for you if your glans is rather large, but it's an issue for me) do you have any plan this time (i.e. some sort of stretcher that attaches to the glans) to make sure the gap remains filled in during the settling process instead of getting pushed up the shaft again? or do you suspect that the new filler will be trapped between where the old pmma stopped and the glans begins so you won't have to worry about it? sorry for being all technical but it's hard without pictures!
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Post by allgood on May 25, 2011 0:46:19 GMT -5
man don't be too alarmed I am 7 days post and it has gone down a lot. You have to remember he made entry points on 4 places of the circ skin. My swelling is still going down although I dont think much more I do still have the circ skin being wider then the glands though and the puffiness in flac but it does get hard during an erection. check out my pics tell me if yours looks the same. I also said I wanted a consistent shape, cylindrical through out the areas of fill. My next visit i will get more of a taper bc I think this will make the circ skin more proportionate to the glands. hey thanks for the assurances...where are your pics?
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Post by Skeptical One on May 25, 2011 4:46:41 GMT -5
My ring was especially noticeable the first 3 days but went down dramatically as the swelling had subsided. Continue to massage your shaft and anticipating final results 4-6 weeks out. My ring was ultra-apparent early, and now I'm not sure if it is even noticeable.
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Post by Skeptical One on May 25, 2011 4:48:00 GMT -5
I discussed the importance of explaining & exploring the "ring issue" with Wade with respect to their new website they are putting up (that specifically covers PMMA for the penis). I think it's an important aesthetic concern that has been apparent in some patients (but not all).
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Post by allgood on May 25, 2011 12:22:56 GMT -5
yeah, i was going to make that suggestion with them as well. also, it would probably be better if they first went over your general expectations before you're sitting there naked, might make for a less weird and more in-depth discussion
while i don't know what the final product from this round is going to look like, i'm already thinking about how to best fill in the ring if needed. does anyone know of a stretcher that actually grips the glans, not the area right before the glans (since that's the area we're trying to fill in)?
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Post by hoddle10 on May 25, 2011 12:32:31 GMT -5
Once the new site is up and we can post photos again, it will be very interesting to see Docsavage's photo's, as his ring was the most noticeable. He's had 2 touch ups I believe and apparantel it's made a huge difference.
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Post by allgood on May 25, 2011 12:43:36 GMT -5
ah would love to hear from doc as well if he's around
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Post by emptyyogurtcup on May 25, 2011 13:33:06 GMT -5
Hey allgood, I'm still wrapped up right now but I just got back from my second session. After my first session I had a SERIOUS ring'age going out with about 1/2" from the end of the PMMA till the base of the glans. This was mainly because I am 7"+ erect and shrink down to 4 1/2 flacid. They've done a really really nice job of filling it in this time around. Ring will definately swell from the PMMA but if it doesn't go away you really should assume that the first session is just a beginning point to get the PMMA into the penis and see where it settles. Then the second session they start drawing how the penis reacted to the first sessions and know how to approach it smooth it out. hey, good to hear that they were able to fill you in...you probably can't tell yet, but tomorrow could you report back on whether it's going all the way up to the glans this time or if there's still a bit of a gap? also, i'm assuming the fact that you were able to be filled means this must be caused by the pmma bunching up, not something in the penis that causes filler not to collect there. couple questions: did you use a lower concentration in the gap to taper to the glans? (this may not be a problem for you if your glans is rather large, but it's an issue for me) do you have any plan this time (i.e. some sort of stretcher that attaches to the glans) to make sure the gap remains filled in during the settling process instead of getting pushed up the shaft again? or do you suspect that the new filler will be trapped between where the old pmma stopped and the glans begins so you won't have to worry about it? sorry for being all technical but it's hard without pictures! I forgot to ask what my concentrations were. I pretty much ignored them this time around and was busy email clients.
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Post by sizemic on May 25, 2011 17:55:51 GMT -5
So can the ring be avoided? Or is it something you get or you don't?
From members' experiences here... what shape should one ask for to get the best result possible? I go in tomorrow so this info is kind of important for me.
I don't really know what to ask for. I don't want a big cone shape. I would rather it be cylindrical and then taper to the glans to avoid a ring?? Does that sound right?
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Post by emptyyogurtcup on May 26, 2011 21:48:19 GMT -5
I think it's just something that happens for some types of penis. I hope today's visit went well.
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