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Post by donjuannabe on Feb 19, 2011 9:44:59 GMT -5
I have read some things about applying DHT cream to the penis to increase size. Most of what I have read comes from other forums, with some having success and others not so much. I was just wondering if anyone in our community has tried using DHT for PE, and if it worked or not?
The studies I have read seem to indicate that using hormones to increase test production (while still in puberty) have been shown to increase penis size, however, the studies do not indicate that this is possible for adult males. But still, I have read on some forums that men have used it with pe and achieved success. This of course begs the question of whether or not size increase was from pe exercise alone, or if the DHT cream contributed to the results.
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Post by biggerbob on Feb 19, 2011 12:06:04 GMT -5
Continued (long term) hormone use in adult males ends up doing the reverse, shrinking the penis and scrotum. Lots of body builders that use hormone replacment have has this problem. I looked into it and backed away from the idea rather quickly.
In pre-puberty children DHT causes an early onset of genital maturity, in other words it causes everything to develop early and grow more. Although that would be a decision I would leave upto a doctor.
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Post by biggerbob on Feb 19, 2011 12:17:54 GMT -5
I should have mentioned this in the previous post. The main problem with most creams is the the testosterone is either synthetic or animal derived (usually pig) and converts to estrogen quickly. If you do want to try this out, I would really research how and what the cream is made from.
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Post by biggerbob on Feb 20, 2011 15:00:56 GMT -5
Well this seems to be one of those times I may have been talking out the side of my ass before researching the DHT cream. DHT was not around when I was intially looking at some of the hormone replacement therapies. DHT (Dihydrotestosterone) is fairly new and does show some promise. It is currently being used to treat micropenis cases with some success it appears. It also is used to treat low libido and Gynecomastia (man boobs). It is also currently being studied as a treatment for enlarged prostate. One of the side effects reported in the first prostate study (done in Britain)was improved erection quality. Will it work for PE? I don't know, but if it is being used to treat some micropenis cases, it must be helping. The VA is also currently doing a study on it for bone density. It has also been used for FTM penile surgery to encourage growth. Side effects are male pattern baldness (I'm already bald so this doesn't matter), acne, and facial hair growth. It has also been previously linked to prostate cancer, but now that is in question. See above. You can find quite a few of these studies fairly easily online. I don't know if anyone here has tried this yet. I'm thinking about it. I am becoming more convinced that this might be something that could help as I look at it. I would caution anyone to be aware that this is a steroid and will have some of the same side effects as anabolic steroids, but it is supposed to be used in a much lower dosage. The link to the main site selling this stuff is www.dhtcream.com. Your only other option is to get a Dr. to prescribe this and have a pharmacy make it. Apparently you need to tell them you are treating Gynecomastia, do not tell them this is for PE. I will research further and update this as I findout more. |
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Post by biggerbob on Feb 21, 2011 13:30:25 GMT -5
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Post by Skeptical One on Feb 21, 2011 13:34:17 GMT -5
Thanks for the resourceful links biggerbob, I'll take a look into this later today. I've always felt like Chemical PE and Stem Cell Research would be the two biggest contributors to the advancement of phalloplasty in the years/decades to come. These links obviously pertain to more of a "Chemical PE," and I am personally interested since I would love to increase my starting size as much as possible before undergoing a phalloplastic procedure.
Thanks again for the links!
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Post by biggerbob on Feb 21, 2011 14:01:04 GMT -5
Just ordered the DHT cream, about $160 bucks based on the Euro to dollar conversion. Recieved an email promptly that says it will take 10 to 14 days to process prior to shipment. Once everything arrives, I'll post measurments, methods, etc.. see if this is worthwhile. More to come.
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Post by donjuannabe on Feb 22, 2011 12:26:09 GMT -5
@biggberbob: Thanks for all the info! I will be following your progress with the DHT cream. Will you be doing a manual pe routine in conjunction with the cream? Thanks!
@ Skeptical One: I definitely share your view on Chem PE and Stem Cells as being the biggest contributors to phalloplasty in the future. I am holding out right now for developments in these areas.
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Post by biggerbob on Feb 22, 2011 16:31:54 GMT -5
Yes, I will be doing a manual PE routine along witht he cream. I will be starting a new thread once I have everything in place. Basically a progress journal.
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Post by justabitmore on May 26, 2011 21:20:09 GMT -5
Don't want to spoil the party but DHT will not make you penis bigger. The reason why it is used to treat gyno is that it blocks estrogen through different path ways than the usual antagonists. Steroids that convert to DHT rapidly is winstrol and masteron. Body builders used it pre contest to drain themselves off water (estrogen caused water retention. Athletes who need extra omph but need to stay in low in weight class use it to gain retain lean mass. you need a steady blood level for result. you can measure it in both blood and skin especially scalp hence baldness. adding it topically through creams etc will not make any difference as it will enter the blood stream and become systemic. Steroids do not make your penis shrink but it can with prolonged use and without the addition of HCG cause testicular shrinkage and this can also affect the scrotal sack (smaller nuts smaller sack). I base my opinions on evidence the strongest of which is that I have had enough DHT to in my life to make creams for all of china with no effect on penis size either way. I have also as an athlete safely used steroids for ten years plus with no complications and side effects. EG I took a 8 week break last year to make my wife pregnant and for the third time it was a hole in one IE 3 kids. I have been checked twice a year for all possibly complications from liver kidney, heart, prostate etc etc and my doc always say my numbers read like an olympic athlete. Sorry but I think you will fine no resuts from this at all. By the way I give this as info only I like you am on a quest it just happen that I know about the subject as a user and have research it for many years I also know hundreds of other users and have atleast ten close friends who compete like me. Normally I am not the negative type though lol
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Post by justabitmore on May 26, 2011 21:29:35 GMT -5
Correct on scrotum and scrotal sack but no effect on penis from steroids. The exception would be if you had long term exposure to very high levels of estrogen without testosterone IE your ration was out of bound. This can happen but with all the info out there to manage the process it is rare and I personally dont know any. and I know hundreds of LT users. Hope this helps. Correct that the xposure is important in in the foetus and to an extent just before puberty. EG late onset puberty can cause a a guy to get the wide hip baby fat and gyno look. Hence they recomment HCG to get your balls to drop if you are late. My brother had the option but my mum was against it. If I knew then what I know now I would have injected him myself. He is luckily a handsome bloke but he has to train his ass off to look ok where as I with similat genes have narrow hips wide shoulders and a six pack at sixteen. he had wide hips narrow shoulders and puppy fat at that age and only his hard work is making up for it and he definitily looks better than the average guy. anyway I am on caffeine so ignore my long blurp lol Continued (long term) hormone use in adult males ends up doing the reverse, shrinking the penis and scrotum. Lots of body builders that use hormone replacment have has this problem. I looked into it and backed away from the idea rather quickly. In pre-puberty children DHT causes an early onset of genital maturity, in other words it causes everything to develop early and grow more. Although that would be a decision I would leave upto a doctor. |
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Post by hunkchunk on Jun 7, 2011 3:23:39 GMT -5
Bigger Bob,
I've got nothing to lose so I'm starting an active 6 times + a day DHT application until it drops. Actually only for a short month or so until I get PMMA. It is associated with massive DHEA and regular Methyl 1-D (no, not the Test) as well as Male HGC and Gingko Biloba. The balding effect will be countered by Adovart Dutasteride and once the cycle is finished, in the PMMA post-op phaze I'll have switched to an end cycle of only one item, Formadral to prevent any Estrogen production.
What I really need is help with which exercise can be pushed to the limits to stimulate DHT assisted rapid lengthening, I don't want any length robbing girth gains since PMMA will take care of that easily. Thanks if you have any suggestions.
HC
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Post by hunkchunk on Jun 10, 2011 10:25:21 GMT -5
Okay, this is for general information purposes only and could be unrelated to any lasting effect of DHT Andractim cream. Here is my first update.
I started using Andractim yesterday, applying it only once but in multiple layers. Since I have 3 rather large 80 gram tubes which were free, I am not economizing. After rubbing it in for about a minute or two the solvent evaporates and it becomes slightly sticky and penetrates the skin. Then I reapplied it about 15 times.
This morning I decided to start with another application prior to taking pictures to send Dr Casavantes prior to my first session of PMMA injections. The flaccid state hadn't changed much although it did seem slighly thicker. But I was surprised when I went to measure my BPEL which a week ago had been with every effort I could muster at a borderline 5" long. Today it was a FULL 5.5" and I said full because the entire unit was a lot fuller. So then I measured the girth and instead of its former 4.5" it was 5.5" with actually 6" at the base of the stem. Insane.
Just in case this was a temporary DHT enhanced girth caused by pumping the cream, I reported the new length but the former girth. The reason for this is that I cannot figure how the length would get shorter even if I stopped the DHT application. After all the veins and other tissues won't shorten suddenly, would they? However, I figured that maybe the recent application of the DHT cream might have caused the vessels to temporarily dilate, making the entire girth broader but not with a lasting effect.
I cannot know what this is due to. It could be that lately I haven't been up to par, and that using this cream put me "in the pink". Yet I cannot remember seeing it so wide in the past. This would simply mean that by a form of hormonal aphrodisiac effect it would have just gotten it working like it should, revealing its real original dimensions which were not visible in an "impaired usual condition"? Another possibility is that I am one of the rare people who react to this treatment and that it is having an immediate effect. This would either be due to a genetic predisposition or sensitivity to DHT or maybe to the fact that further growth had been encoded in my genes but was arrested before achievement by a boost of estrogen during my adolescence. I'll keep you posted of any further changes, increases or decreases in any dimension.
HC
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Post by Skeptical One on Jun 10, 2011 14:10:00 GMT -5
Very interesting. Please keep us posted, I've been looking seriously into the use of this cream for a trial period.
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