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Post by hunkchunk on Jun 5, 2011 1:16:36 GMT -5
Hi Guys,
I'm new to this board and first want to congratulate our host for creating what is the definitive resource in the field - kudos!
Also my pen name reflects where I'd like to be in a relatively short while after waiting until two things happen, which are converging today:
1. Safer lasting procedures
2. Objective informative communication
So it looks like this is going to be a green light for moving ahead at last to boost the paraphernalia into HunkChunk category.
To make a long story short I don't want to have to stick to youngish partners who have never had kids in order to increase the chances of optimal fit.
Sure I've noticed that women when pressed to the height of excitement - whether because something clicks between you or they're just crazy in love - tend to clamp down by reflex muscular contraction and whatever size you are they become snug. But this isn't a constant even with such a situation. In other cases women who have had a baby or two will have gotten stretched unless delivered by a C-section, so afterwards things just aren't going to be quite as perfect again.
So despite my being fairly average in size statistically, even if many here probably consider that average, in today's world of inflated organs piped into women's minds by adult films flicks, to be somewhat insufficient. And yes, there are women who are secret or more explicit oversized lovers just as I used to know a guy obsessed with large boobies: how many women respond to that taste by getting breast implants?!?
So here I am for these several reasons as well as to compensate for the usual savage cruelty of older boys in locker rooms mocking the diminished dimensions of those not yet in puberty. After all those events possibly follow us much of our adult life and have something to do with confidence, etc. And if we aren't in the higher percentile of dimensions I would wager that it leaves us with a nagging worry that maybe that girl we really liked dumped us for a guy who set her soaring by his trance inducing equipment.
So I have decided to at minimum request a PMMA injection by Dr Casavantes in Tijuana, and possibly also request a lengthening procedure. However it is this last part that I have some questions about.
Dr Casavantes offers ligament cutting for lengthening, and it would make sense to do so before having the PMMA injection as it will ensure that the base will be properly filled at the same time. However I wonder if this is wise to do there or might be performed better elsewhere for a number of reasons.
Whether using a less destructive laser is better than a surgical scalpel is an issue, I cannot know even if scarring might tend to reduce if not counter the gains made by the ligament operation. However more importantly I need to know if Dr Casavantes' lengthening procedure is the same as Dr Giunta's which he outlines below?
The part I am most interested in has been highlighted in bold. As can be imagined I would prefer to not wind up with a dangling erection I need to manually direct due to the absence of working ligaments. While this might not be the most important consideration when considering a length enhancement, it is the loss of a functional characteristic of a natural erection, pointing upwards.
For this reason I would have expected that there must have been by now a technique developed to extend and reattach somehow the ligaments, gaining length by externalizing while retaining at least a small measure of "levitation"...
Has anyone here had length extension done by this procedure, and would anyone know of it would need to be done by Dr Giunta or another specialist rather than by Dr Casavantes to achieve an optimal result? Of course the rates in Tijuana are more competitive but I do want to achieve the best possible result the first time around, that's why I waited quite a few years for the techniques to be up to par.
Thanks for any advice or suggestions - if the lengthening is not quite sorted out yet technically, I can forgo it and simply go with the girth enhancement which is the target result. Only I am worried that at only 5.5" erect that it won't look very natural to get so wide, and that the general aesthetic effect would be less unusual if it were also lengthened.
Also I have never used any manual techniques, and wondered if during the month preceding the PMMA procedure it is useful to try some out to optimize results?
Thx!
HunkChunk
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Post by Skeptical One on Jun 5, 2011 2:17:59 GMT -5
Hi Guys, I'm new to this board and first want to congratulate our host for creating what is the definitive resource in the field - kudos! Also my pen name reflects where I'd like to be in a relatively short while after waiting until two things happen, which are converging today: 1. Safer lasting procedures
2. Objective informative communication
So it looks like this is going to be a green light for moving ahead at last to boost the paraphernalia into HunkChunk category. To make a long story short I don't want to have to stick to youngish partners who have never had kids in order to increase the chances of optimal fit. Sure I've noticed that women when pressed to the height of excitement - whether because something clicks between you or they're just crazy in love - tend to clamp down by reflex muscular contraction and whatever size you are they become snug. But this isn't a constant even with such a situation. In other cases women who have had a baby or two will have gotten stretched unless delivered by a C-section, so afterwards things just aren't going to be quite as perfect again. So despite my being fairly average in size statistically, even if many here probably consider that average, in today's world of inflated organs piped into women's minds by adult films flicks, to be somewhat insufficient. And yes, there are women who are secret or more explicit oversized lovers just as I used to know a guy obsessed with large boobies: how many women respond to that taste by getting breast implants?!? So here I am for these several reasons as well as to compensate for the usual savage cruelty of older boys in locker rooms mocking the diminished dimensions of those not yet in puberty. After all those events possibly follow us much of our adult life and have something to do with confidence, etc. And if we aren't in the higher percentile of dimensions I would wager that it leaves us with a nagging worry that maybe that girl we really liked dumped us for a guy who set her soaring by his trance inducing equipment. So I have decided to at minimum request a PMMA injection by Dr Casavantes in Tijuana, and possibly also request a lengthening procedure. However it is this last part that I have some questions about. Dr Casavantes offers ligament cutting for lengthening, and it would make sense to do so before having the PMMA injection as it will ensure that the base will be properly filled at the same time. However I wonder if this is wise to do there or might be performed better elsewhere for a number of reasons. Whether using a less destructive laser is better than a surgical scalpel is an issue, I cannot know even if scarring might tend to reduce if not counter the gains made by the ligament operation. However more importantly I need to know if Dr Casavantes' lengthening procedure is the same as Dr Giunta's which he outlines below? The part I am most interested in has been highlighted in bold. As can be imagined I would prefer to not wind up with a dangling erection I need to manually direct due to the absence of working ligaments. While this might not be the most important consideration when considering a length enhancement, it is the loss of a functional characteristic of a natural erection, pointing upwards. For this reason I would have expected that there must have been by now a technique developed to extend and reattach somehow the ligaments, gaining length by externalizing while retaining at least a small measure of "levitation"... Has anyone here had length extension done by this procedure, and would anyone know of it would need to be done by Dr Giunta or another specialist rather than by Dr Casavantes to achieve an optimal result? Of course the rates in Tijuana are more competitive but I do want to achieve the best possible result the first time around, that's why I waited quite a few years for the techniques to be up to par. Thanks for any advice or suggestions - if the lengthening is not quite sorted out yet technically, I can forgo it and simply go with the girth enhancement which is the target result. Only I am worried that at only 6.5" erect that it won't look very natural to get so wide, and that the general aesthetic effect would be less unusual if it were also lengthened. Also I have never used any manual techniques, and wondered if during the month preceding the PMMA procedure it is useful to try some out to optimize results? Thx! HunkChunk Welcome hunkchunk! I appreciate the congratulatory opening remark, but I am only a small piece of the equation. It's the contributions of our Moderators & Members that have truly enriched this forum. As for lengthening, I'm not sure Dr. Casavantes is the one who performs it. My understanding is (correct me if I'm mistaken anyone) that Dr. Casavantes will refer you (on a non-commission basis) to Dr. Camacho who's a plastic surgeon that works in the same building. I believe the only notable thing about Dr. Camacho's technique is that he uses a scrotal incision. I personally am not a fan of lengthening procedures because it requires you to commit to a long-term & rigorous stretching regimen that could have yielded similar results (in length) without the surgery. I suppose the argument could be made that surgery might maximize potential gains but this point is offset by the risk for complications/retraction that come with severing the ligaments. I like the idea of Dr. Giunta's laser, and he's been doing this for a while. We'll have to ask IDM, who I know has had the FFT but I cannot recall whether or not he got his ligaments severed, but something tells me he did. When it comes to penile lengthening, If I personally had to choose, I'd go with a doctor whose done them frequently over many years. Now this is IF I had to choose a doctor, because otherwise I am against lengthening procedures. I've read more than sufficient reports on length gains via manual PE exercising alone (from non-commercial sources like Thundersplace) to believe it is achievable for some to gain modest erect length. In my humble opinion, I'd recommend thoroughly researching and attempting a 3-6 month traction campaign aimed at improving your penis length. Places likes Thundersplace, PEGym, and even this forum have good resources on the best manual PE exercise techniques aimed at gaining length. Also, if you have a fat pad around your penis, you may want to consider diet & exercise... or even a fat pad lipo if the fat content is significant and stubborn. Fat pads around the penis can "hide" some length, for example my fat pad disguises a full 1" of erect length! Keep in mind that manual techniques are not easy and can take at least 2-3 months to realize any gains (which usually come in the form of a fraction of an inch). I've read reports of people gaining 1", 0.5", and 0 inches in the course of a committed year through manual PE. A remarkable 2" gain is the most I've ever seen reported, which is very rare and goes to show that length gains beyond 2" is strictly for E-mail-Spam-Subject-Lines. The key to manual PE exercising is patience and commitment. If the above suggestion fails to provide any lasting results in length, then surgery may be a more reasonable option. But keep in mind that if you are of average length, you may not need to worry about lengthening at all. I'm pretty sure it's a consensus, at least on this forum, that girth is considerably more useful in pleasing a woman than sheer length (with the exception of a minority of girls who truly enjoy being bottomed out). A long dick will penetrate into any girl, but not every thick dick will. I'm sure others will chime in! I hope you become an active contributor, and I'm sure I'll see you when PhalloBoards version 2.0 launches in the coming weeks!
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Post by hunkchunk on Jun 5, 2011 5:10:56 GMT -5
Hi Skeptical One,
While I realize that this forum has grown beyond your own initiative, it is clear that your design and administration of it have very much made it what it is. I wish to thank you for the very helpful advice given. I guess it is because I was wondering about obtaining natural looking aesthetic proportions when achieving optimal girth by having a PMMA procedure. I am pretty much the most unlikely person to ever post in such a place, having undergone severe trauma in earlier days due to this very issue. Yet the way you've brought this forum into being has made it seem both normal and healthy to post here, rather than simply a neurotic outlet for painful memories - Thanks !
Your words have brought a measure of sanity to my illusions, given that today at last with PMMA injections girth seems within our grasp, no pun intend. So without being better informed and noting that Dr Casavantes offers such a procedure through his colleague during the same surgical session as the PMMA injection, I had figured that it would be effective and useful prior to injecting to ensure that the base would be of similar girth as the rest of the shaft. Now I realize that this wouldn't make much if any of a difference, and that severing the ligament wouldn't even extend it noticeably outward or in much of any way provide a further stretch to inject with more CCs of solution. Yet I am glad that you seem to recall that Dr. Camacho's technique uses a scrotal incision as this would definitely be more discrete in case later the ensuing enthusiasm would lead to close visual contact. If the girth is borderline natural looking, I'd rather avoid any visible telltale signs such as a wide scar in the pelvis area. Also I found it interesting that it could be done all at once, considering visiting San Diego next month if it could get scheduled.
This procedure has brought me around 180 degrees from distant interest to an actual decision to proceed, due to the half century history of use of this composite filler in various body locations as well as the recent success rate of a relatively permanent solution.
I definitely must by all means avoid that beer can look, given my gland is current shaft size in erection, which will already seem small if the girth gains are important. I have never seen a natural organ with a much larger shaft than gland, so to me this does appear to be relatively unnatural looking. I found however that even with his larger dimensions to start with, that the final shape of Sizemic's improved "persona" which was already quite long and decently wide, became quite the monster while at the same time retaining what appear to be relatively natural proportions: Dr Casavantes did a great job on him, I haven't seen others to compare though other than a few pictures of Brazilian PMMA mega injections which seem designed to scare other guys more than to satisfy women unless the given lady earlier gave birth to twins simultaneously...
I'd be especially interested if, once you feel that the collagen build- up is close to completion, if you could evaluate the general proportions after your first session. While my metal tape measure doesn't allow an exact measurement I think my dimensions are approximately 3.5" flaccid length and 4"flaccid girth and 5.5" bone pressed erect length with 4.5" erect girth. This means that at 5.5" length for the time being, until extenders are used, I would be best off to only have a single injection given that the girth might become disproportionate, reserving a possible second injection not to add CCs but only to correct irregularities in the settling of the PMMA?
Also I am awakening very late to the fact that manual lengthening techniques work, imagining for years that they were marketing scams by unscrupulous predatory salesmen. I will investigate this vigorously, but will probably need to see what can or should be done in the short month before a PMMA injection if I can get it scheduled with that short notice, or after the girth broadening procedure in Tijuana. Sure thing that I was sort of hoping for a "one stop shopping" experience gaining girth and length in one fell swoop, but clearly that isn't realistic. If there are difficulties related to ligament severing that could even cause a shortening, no way Jose. Also I've heard that doing that procedure prevents one of having an upwardly mobile erection, for want of a better expression: is that a fact? Dr. Giunta seems to claim otherwise referring to maintaining the erection angle.
Would you recommend a traction campaign after getting the first session of PMMA? If so I'll get down to researching it as far as possible, checking out Thundersplace and PEGym. My ultimate goal is to gain a Chunky enough appendice to put me right into official "Hunk" territory - hence my nickname Hunk Chunk. I guess that if the girth is improved at current length to optimal proportions at the first injection session, I can always return for a second run once I have made gains in length to add corresponding increases in girth.
I've gotten quite fit and don't have much fat in the pelvis which means that there's not much to gain by getting closer to bone pressed. I guess that if there isn't anything much gained in terms of length after months of extension subsequent to the first PMMA session, I could always have the ligaments cut prior to the second session to ensure that it is optimum, hopefully not needing to come around for a third round of injections. And I only had one girlfriend who was a bit too tight and one whom I bottomed out painfully, so I guess it was that they were below average given that I'm in the general average dimensions. Yet while I don't know how it stacks up, I get the general feeling that a woman is preferred at below average dimensions making her more satisfactorily filled by most guys, for everyone's benefit, whereas a guy is in the exact opposite dilemma.
Given I'm a newbie I'll be probably asking more questions than helping others, however at least I can contribute my experience as I am pretty much decided to jump the gun and go ahead with this procedure which seems to have very limited health risks and a high rate of success including sensitivity, hardness, natural feel, lasting gains and stability over time. I'll be scouting for the second version of this forum and hope you'll post here how to access it, unless it just pops up when we log into our usual haunt.
Cheers,
Hunk Chunk
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Post by hunkchunk on Jun 5, 2011 9:28:43 GMT -5
Hi, Just to note that I edited my above posts for the correct length, losing an inch in the process - yeah I know that's not what we're here to do... Meanwhile I found this link in another post and wondered if anyone had heard of this Brazilian length enhancement with a ligament SPACER ? "Dr Marcio Dantas (Surgeon @ Clinica Plenus) has offices in several major cities in Brazil including Rio de Janeiro, Sao Paulo, Curitiba, Brasilia. They use a PMMA called "Metacril" made in Brazil and approved by the ANVISA (Brazilian FDA). In the Lengthening surgery they use a "spacer" to fill in the gap where the ligaments are cut (which I think is nice)." TIA Hunk Chunk
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Post by hunkchunk on Jun 5, 2011 10:45:51 GMT -5
As I am emerging from a lasting relationship, I also wanted to get a "fresh start" literally by dating again with greater confidence. My last relationship prior to the one I am today exiting, was with a woman whom I sensed left me for a man who "quaked her" more, and as countless women have praised me for my know-how, including her, I can only fathom it was more a matter of girth given that she wasn't IMHO really in love with him but rather seduced by the effect he had upon her. Of course one never really knows, so I'd rather not need to speculate by being on the safe side of the size issue.
There is a person at present overseas whom I will be getting together with this August. We both have been moving towards stepping up our relationship, and if it does start then I'd rather not have to explain any physical changes as being quite stunning she cannot understand why anyone would intervene with their physique out of what she calls superficial vanity. So I prefer, if we were to start a more intimate relationship, that it would be in a semi-final state with at least a generally stable overall visual appearance. That this be discretely enhanced thanks to your great advice and Dr Casavantes' know-how is a definite plus. My friends concur that she is possibly one of the most beautiful women in every sense of the word and I of course am "dizzy" at already being quite close to her even if we haven't taken it further yet, due to my reticences until I exit a dwindling relationship. So I have been putting whatever possible on my side, losing any excess weight, getting back in shape at the gym and going forth with this enhancement too.
It is not that I lack in confidence, understanding that I'm quite normal, but I feel the need to have that "extra edge" in order to have every chance on my side, given that I cannot possibly know what she might be expecting, given her past sexual experience and previous partners, her own physical dimensions as well as her rapport to sexual intimacy which is sometimes not at all what one is given to imagine. There is clearly a consensus here and elsewhere that girth is definitely a useful boost to our dimensions, up to around 6 inches + in diameter. While this of course cannot replace love, it certainly can help bring about sensual satisfaction through which love might more fully express itself, extending from sexuality into other aspects of relationship building.
HC
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Post by dd72 on Jun 5, 2011 13:13:52 GMT -5
well said HC
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Post by hunkchunk on Jun 5, 2011 13:44:07 GMT -5
Hi dd72,
Thanks for the feedback, it isn't easy confronting these issues and there is definitely a very soothing therapeutic component to this forum given that we discover that we are all quite normal whatever our physical attributes may be like, and experience similar things. By the way, there's a member who has written his experiences in Chapters which are well worth reading. I laughed uncontrollably not just because it was funny but because it alleviated much of that embedded stress internalized since youth.
Regarding the Ligaments lengthening, I finally read the huge monster thread about PMMA and it doesn't seem likely that the gains can be erect but only at rest, meaning that if you want to impress somebody walking around at a nudist beach it's fine but in bed it would be pretty much useless. Consider the cost and complications and it seems that manual methods might be smarter. Even though they are recommended months if not a year before PMMA I will be doing them after my first session or two, going back later if I have made any noteworthy length gains.
HC
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