Thank you S.O. this is at about 8 !/2 months post. note less flaring at base from prior pic's (on MNS) a bit less girth, due to prior pic's still had some swelling. Also, the implant doesn't cover the glans anymore, due to? implant moved back up some? or rest of penis stretched out past the end of the implant, or some of both? remember I didn't have any internal stitching, I didn't have any major complications and I am happy with the result. I wish all guys who got the implant by Elist had this good an outcome. Hopefully he is getting his complication rate improved, seems so from some of the recent posts, but it's still a gamble. I hope this helps. I wouldn't encourage or discourage anyone from getting it, it's all an individual choice after weighing the good and bad and how much a guy wants to risk it. In any case good luck to all!
Post by Skeptical One on Dec 9, 2010 12:37:39 GMT -5
At 8 1/2 months with no complications does appear to be an uncommon feat using this method. Congratulations, I'd say if you make it complication-free past 6 months, I'd imagine you had a truly "successful" procedure (barring any long-term complications).
I hope you are right about Elist improving the complication rates! I'm currently leaning toward PMMA or FFT, but the Elist implant has continued to intrigue me because of the "one-time permanent ultra-girth gain" that you can achieve.
What is the final girth measurement on that erect (mid-shaft) if you don't mind sharing?
Final gains have gone down since I last measured, at about 3 months. Anyway pre op I was at 5- 1/4" now I'm at 6- 1/2" this is mid shaft erect. I think the 2'' a lot of guys claim could be at the very widest part (base) and with the extra large implant, or they were measuring before all the swelling went down. The capsule amounts to zilch, very thin. . but still a full inch and a quarter isn't bad and makes a big difference in the bedroom, for me anyway. By the way I'm still 5- 3/4" length.... same as always.
Post by mustang2020 on Dec 10, 2010 23:58:01 GMT -5
Good for you Mark, From all the implant patients, I think you are one of the very few who had no problems.. may be the only one and I am very happy for you. I think the stitching has a lot to do with it. You also healed with no problems, that is also a good thing.
I am now seriously thinking of the new implant, once I know it to be better than what I have now. I can't take it out and do nothing in concern of loosing more length.
To be fair and balanced, I must tell every one that I have seen about .25" of erect increase. I measure a lot and I try to be very accurate, but some times EQ can have a big impac,s o I think I have .25" of an increase so far. Anyway, I will be able to do something by early next week, work is too busy now and I need to take two weeks off for any operation.
Stormy: yeah I think you're right, with "L" being his smallest. As far as I know he has 2 sizes, L and XL I believe I have the smallest since sizes never came up when we talked pre op. I just said do whatever he thought would be the safest and give me a good result in regards to the foreskin look. I think he customizes some to be even bigger or smaller on special occasions, but I'm not certain on that.
I know how you had talked about your glans to shifting relative to the implant and that it no longer has the uncut look, as shown by the above flaccid photo.
Would you say that everything has stabilized and there is no more shifting or that you can still tell that there are changes as to how the the implant is settling in your body?
Do you think because of the lack of stitching that the implant seems more apt to shift around over time or do you feel that it is quite stable in your penis? Example; Do you feel that you could have fairly rough sex and nothing would be bothered?
Also, has Elist ever approached you about gathering information post surgery?
Stormy, Yeah everything is stable and I can pound away or try any position I want, no problem there. I can't feel the implant shift or move around, it seems very stabilized by the surrounding tissue and always has, actually. The only reason I can think of for the stitches at the glans would be so that when you are very flaccid the glans can't like "sink in" the end of the implant like it can on me ( I would guess).But I think it could also "hold back" the glans, or penis in general. from extending out to it's full potential, which could partially explain the length loss in a lot of guys. I'm guessing again, but since I had no stitching, but also no length loss, like a lot of guys?? hey?? As far as the implant slowly moving down during the settling process, I couldn't feel it or like, help it along if I had wanted to or anything like that. it was a very gradual process, but it's always felt stable. By the way, like I said if I'm really flaccid or cold, sometimes the implant does still cover part of the glans, or, you could say the glans kind of "sinks into"the implant. But I'm still glad I didn't get the stitching,seems uneccessary unless your worried about the fact that it may like you've got some foreskin once in a while. I think it keeps the complication chances down also from what I've read. One less thing to go wrong is how I look at it.. hope that answers your question. Elist has never contacted me since the surgery. I reported my progress to him once at about 2 months out and thats been it, nothing. later, M
Last Edit: Dec 15, 2010 19:47:11 GMT -5 by marknmau
Your case is the only detailed one I've read in regards to not having stitching done and it has turned out very successful. Logistically it does seem like not having stitches is the way to go; it'd be nice to read about other men's experiences who have taken the same route.
I intend to ask Elist how often does he do augmentations w/out stitches.
I feel like I should know more about this, since it was done to me, but like I said I had no idea when I had the surg that he did some with and some w/o this stitching. I just remember him saying something like:, I shouldn't have as much pain as most guys because I didn't get any internal stitching" (so that the implant would drop down). And then when I found out about MNS and heard the details from other guys, I realized how rarely he didn't use them. Since I didn't have complications, I didn't talk much at all to Elist since, and he of course doesn't do much , if any, follow up unless he has to. I suppose between communicating with the guys with problems, and his stream of new customers, he doesn't have time to follow up with his successful outcome patients.... oh well..... I'm glad you (stormy) are going to ask him about it. I will be very intersted to hear what he says.
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