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Post by mustang2020 on Jan 3, 2011 3:56:38 GMT -5
Yes, inject enough air into an artery and your heart/blood will cavitate and most likely kill you...
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Post by envisionmore on Jan 3, 2011 9:10:07 GMT -5
It doesn't sound like the PMMA itself killed the model more like the Doctor that injected the PMMA may have injected some into an artery. If it had been injected correctly chances are this wouldn't have happened (?) This is why it can't be stressed enough that a highly qualified Physician with a lot of experience needs to be the one injecting!
I would Never inject myself and wouldn't recommend it. I just thought it was interesting that one could buy this right off the internet for home use! (Juveni)
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Post by tuckmeunder on Jan 3, 2011 18:07:38 GMT -5
PMMA sounds great but do you guys know that Solange Magnano the model died from injections in her butt. If someone can die from this I think this is out of my options. It's the cheapest but damn the risk is not cool at all. I think i am going back to FFT option. That incident occurred due to the filler being injected into the bloodstream, thereby leading to pulmonary embolism. The problem was improper technique, not toxic filler. All injectable fillers pose a risk of embolism: the same can occur with Synthol, silicone, or other fillers. Such injections demand expert technique to ensure the material isn't injected into an artery, vessel, or capillary. Fat Embolism Syndrome is also documented, but I don't know if it could be triggered by fat injection. But FFT is such a specialized technique that I'd expect any practitioner to be sufficiently expert to avoid such mistakes. If you had such a concern, your doctor could probably answer such a question effortlessly. |
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Post by jasonbond on Jan 3, 2011 21:48:08 GMT -5
tuckmeunder Whose to say the Dr performing wouldn't make a mistake. You just never know. So its big risk. PMMA sounds great but do you guys know that Solange Magnano the model died from injections in her butt. If someone can die from this I think this is out of my options. It's the cheapest but damn the risk is not cool at all. I think i am going back to FFT option. That incident occurred due to the filler being injected into the bloodstream, thereby leading to pulmonary embolism. The problem was improper technique, not toxic filler. All injectable fillers pose a risk of embolism: the same can occur with Synthol, silicone, or other fillers. Such injections demand expert technique to ensure the material isn't injected into an artery, vessel, or capillary. Fat Embolism Syndrome is also documented, but I don't know if it could be triggered by fat injection. But FFT is such a specialized technique that I'd expect any practitioner to be sufficiently expert to avoid such mistakes. If you had such a concern, your doctor could probably answer such a question effortlessly. |
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Post by jasonbond on Jan 4, 2011 11:52:03 GMT -5
Got a reply from Dr. Casavantes
"The risk associated with pmma treatments for penile enhancement are irregularities and asymmetry, which are usually due to overfilling.
No health risks are associated with the use of authentic medical grade pmma.
The former Miss Argentina Solange Magnano died after a massive injection of liquid silicone (not pmma, a completely different product). The clinic that did the treatment in Buenos Aires declared that they had used "pmma" which has become a very common lie, coming from those that use liquid silicone.
Please contact me with any additional questions that you may have."
I need to do more research on this because i read that it was PMMA
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Post by new1inch on Jan 4, 2011 13:46:15 GMT -5
JASONBOND... you need to GO AWAY.. your being a Debbie Downer to this thread. every cosmetic surgery has risks. even breast implants. if someone choose to get this thats thier business. its not you having the surgery so dont worry about it. everyone here i assume are adults and can make thier own decision. thats why were trying to get as much info on it as possible. yes we know its risks thats why were trying to get in contact with people that had the procedure. just like somone wud talk to a friend that had breast augmentation to wiegh the pros and cons. your only talking about the negative which we are all aware of ALREADY. Frankly im saying no one cares for your opinion at this point. every time i come to this thread thinking its something new and exciting, i see your the one that posted so i dont read it because your saying the same thing over, and over. yes its dangerous what surgery dont have risks. we dont need to go through 5 pages of thread talkin bout it. i hope every would just ignore this fool and change the subject back to finding out more about long term results of PMMA. geesh.
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Post by Skeptical One on Jan 4, 2011 16:05:28 GMT -5
new1inchjasonbond is free to discuss his skepticism in relation to the topic, regardless of its cynicism. Granted, jasonbond suggesting that any doctor could make a mistake is a "needlessly stated" fact, it isn't necessarily inappropriate (or off-topic). I'd recommend if you don't like someone's posts to simply ignore them (by not responding to their posts). Moderators will take care of anyone whose discussion becomes problematic. But I agree, ultimately we need to get back to the subject and learn as much as we can about the effectiveness of PMMA for penile augmentation. jasonbondDr. C may have the inside scoop and I'd take his word over the press to be honest. It's a plausible scenario that the alleged surgical office used PMMA to conceal the fact they were using silicone gel. With all procedures, risks are assumed (hence why you sign your life away). It is best you find a doctor with years of experience in bioplasty if you choose to go the PMMA route. I like Dr. C a lot, but he seems to avoid massive makeovers (which is what I would like to have). I suppose that is a good thing in that Dr. C appears to be a truly competent doctor, but it doesn't bode well for my PMMA aspirations lol.
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Post by new1inch on Jan 4, 2011 16:29:44 GMT -5
Your absolutely right ScepOne.. i jus hate wen people try and push their opinion on others. thats why we have this website. we get the facts and decide ON OUR OWN weather its safe enough or not for ourself.
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Post by viduka on Jan 4, 2011 19:18:05 GMT -5
Calm down.
Jasonbond contacted the Dr. and got a reply, which he then posted here, that is good information.
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Post by new1inch on Jan 4, 2011 21:21:44 GMT -5
i didnt really mean go away. i know he means well it jus seem that the subject is dragging on. we already know it can be complications. now what else.
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Post by Skeptical One on Jan 4, 2011 21:44:29 GMT -5
jasonbondeven if it were PMMA, I think the "improper injection technique" was the ultimate cause to blame right?
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Post by gsxr7501941 on Jan 5, 2011 1:05:05 GMT -5
I was finally able to get in touch with one of Dr C's former patients. He had his done in 2008 and is happy with his results. He had 20cc injected, and had a few bumps around the head. When he had it done, they injected from the head up, but now they go in at the groin and go down, apparently it works better. He had the nodules or bumps taken care of with Kenalog injection from the doctor. He said flaccid he is 5 at the base, and 4.5 right behind the head. He said he didnt have starting stats to give me. He sent me pictures and the results look good. He said flaccid feels natural, but that erect feels a little different. It doesnt look odd like the guy in the blog though, it looks natural just thicker. He also said that the PMMA vascularizes. I was given another email, and am waiting from a reply from the second person. I will try to get both to join our forum and post pics. I am thinking about scheduling for next month but still undecided.
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Post by jasonbond on Jan 5, 2011 11:16:28 GMT -5
Skeptical One
I got another email from Dr. C saying same thing he told you. he will not go beyond 2 visits. He seems pretty good I like the results and information he has given me so far. I am still looking at FFT as well once I calculate the cost for traveling and procedure for PMMA vs FFT I will decide and post pics.
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Post by Skeptical One on Jan 5, 2011 13:33:41 GMT -5
jasonbond, I may have to go the Brazilian route if I did PMMA... I'm not necessarily trying to look like that one blogger but I am in need of significant gains.
Dr. C does seem competent and that is a rarity in the world of surgical PE.
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Post by dog on Jan 5, 2011 14:45:26 GMT -5
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