Hi - I came across this board and would first off like to thank everybody for all the great info, especially Skeptical One.
I've looked into PE for awhile, but always felt the procedures were risky enough to overcome the same confidence issues we all here seem to have. Recently though I had an experience that has been repeated many times here. My gf and I had a threesome with a gorgeous chick, and she basically only paid attention to her. Now of course she could just be like that, but I could tell it was a lack of attraction, starting with an undersized tool. So, I started to do some more research to see if anything had changed in recent years.
I was an early Lasik user, and my theory on progressive procedures are as follows:
1) if it is outpatient it is far less risky and far more likely to have a lot of intuitive thinking in the original thought process -- basically a smart doctor figuring out how to improve on blunt force surgical methods
2) you want to be in the second or third wave, to be sure you have all 'kinks' worked out well, so to speak
3) since I analyze investments I understand the value of improvements now. If you are 50 you will want to use your tool when you are 60 (lots of people are fucking in the old folks home), but that doesn't change the benefits of having it NOW when you are young and can benefit. The next 10 years you will also see improvement in other areas of your life that could have posed risks. A couple of these stories (like the gf outright leaving the dude over dick size) would be enough stress to give me a heart attack, and that shit is worse than PMMA beads.
4) in the subsequent 10 years, even if complications arise, science (including reversal approaches) will really improve.
5) after wave 2 the good doctors will show themselves, as has happened here
PMMA looks good along all these dimensions
So, I decide to go for PMMA sooner rather than later. However, after reading every one of these posts over the last few days I have to at least address a couple strategic questions. It was mentioned that nobody should get PE because of a message board, and we should each do lots of research. Well, I think this is sort of the end of the rabbit hole for most of us. I said to myself 'don't get sold on some stupid site, look for an objective message board'. This is exactly that and I think Skeptical One is on one level to thank for any improvements we see. So, just like capital I'm about ready to just go schedule this thing and do it. Even Skeptical One isn't so skeptical. Which is great. The 'long-term complication' concern is exactly why you get PMMA, that's the ultimate risk for people to focus their minds on as opposed to 'my dick is green or i lost 2 inches'.
So, the strategy questions, before everybody who reads this jumps into it:
1) Several members have mentioned it is good to do whatever lengthening you want to do first (most notably again I believe Skeptical One). Eventually people seem to give in on making progress in this way and just go for PMMA. Onenewinch maybe one of the few to still be trying this strategy. Since it seems like it is hard to effectively lengthen after PMMA, isn't this more of a concern for a lot of you guys or are most of you genuinely fixing girth and are happy with length?
2) As for length specifically, I think we all like how simple PMMA is, but given the above, it seems like it would be good to lipo the 'fat pad' and/or get the ligament released. Why did anybody who was thinking about this originally ultimately decide for or against this method? I'm 5' long and always surprised at having the 6' girth. It doesn't seem like it would look too outrageous to have a 5x7 (without pictures i'm not even sure i'm measuring apples to apples). Does anybody mind sending me some samples? PM me and I'll give you my email
3) the immediate comment will be that the girth is fine. I would sort of agree but I am, as somebody else has mentioned, both a 'true grower' and uncut. I believe the PMMA will help with the flaccid size, which has a lot to do with my confidence right now. Plus, lengthening procedures don't really seem to be the best. One guy mentioned a clinic in Thailand that had an improved lig procedure, and in theory if we're going to TJ for girth it would be acceptable to circumnavigate for the perfect tool. Does anybody think this procedure can be improved upon?
A couple other random ideas based on the posts:
1) how dangerous is the travel back to SD in the first hours? How long does that trip take from office to hotel? I think capital brought this up in passing, but I think it is actually a key point.
2) on the other hand I live in norcal and would like to take the trip back asap to be at home, especially since it shouldn't be too long of a flight. How long is that immediate benefit? would you be comfortable leaving that night for example?
3) Why does dr. C's website seem to be down? Can somebody PM me wade's email?
4) If anybody does go for the lipo, would that need to be a separate procedure? how long would the healing period be
5) any uncut guys have good results that don't look like Fred?
6) random thought, has anybody thought if using extendz or enzyte for the temporary enlargement of the corpus would allow you to 'lock in' flaccid or erect size with PMMA before the effects of the drug go away after stopping use?
7) I believe the autoxleeve may be a good thing to add to the post-op process. I know there are some guidelines posted on this and I'll read them, but on this question specifically I was wondering if anybody had tried this and if it a) fit and b) worked?
Thanks everybody
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