Bib

[sparticus]

I have surfed thunders for a little under a year. I started with hope that it would work because I knew that surgeons used tissue expander before operations to get more skin. My friend was all about it too until I showed him what I was seeing, he was a member on there for a while. We shared the account because apparently they don't allow new members often and he was cool with it as long as I didn't give any info that would identify him. However, the more I read and saw the less I was convinced. I used the exact same logic as you in thinking that so many people wouldn't lie, but the longer I hung out there the more I saw people contradicting themselves, talking about loss of size after quitting, and even admitting that they never took starting measurements but claimed gains down to the hundreds place of an inch. Like I said, go to a forum for Psychics, Ghost Hunters, or people that have been abducted by aliens, you will see the exact same behavior you see at thunders: poor pictures, contradictions, fantasy elements, ignorance (especially in regards to science or medical/biological processes), hostility to non-believers, lack of evidence, ect. You will probably disagree with me, but that is what I saw. I think I was on there long enough to make an accurate assessment, at least accurate enough for me to make an informed decision. Can traction work? I still don't know for sure, but I doubt it based on what I saw. Even if it took a a year to get .5 inches, you can clearly show that in a photo with a ruler in a manner the same as a starting photo. If someone is dedicated enough to hang weights off their dick for a year, I think they would have the dedication to take a decent picture once or twice a year. Not trying to push your buttons boss, but that is my opinion on manual PE based on what I saw on the PE forums.

[Skeptical One]

sparticus

Whats important is that you drew your own conclusion after making observations. While I still believe manual PE can't be ruled out until actually having tried it, I understand your skepticism regarding its effectiveness.

I am currently taking very careful measurements and observations and will testify in the coming months on whether or not I see any success.

[sparticus]

S.O.

Take before and after pics with a ruler and at the same angle. Hold your penis at the same level (exactly parallel with the floor) and do it bone pressed. I assume people who are not lying on thunders make their "gains" from measuring closer to a non-bone pressed at first and then bone pressed later as they learn more, then also they measure the later pic also at a lower angle as their erection may now point more down (like after lig cutting), which gives an illusion of length increase.

[hoddle10]

I was on Thundersplace earlier today looking at Saiyan22's photo's. I can't see how anyone could doubt he has gained. His NPBEL is now clearly bigger than his orignal BPEL. And his girth has without doubt grown by over 0.5".

[messageman]

Hi guys
I’ve been using the bib hanger since late November, 2010…I have been hanging up to 15 pounds (2 X 10 min sets) about 5 nights a week. That’s about all my very busy schedule will allow…
I also use an all-day-stretcher about 5 hours a day,
I have been meticulously measuring every week to see if there has been even a hint of an increase…There hasn’t…until yesterday that is…I couldn’t believe my eyes when I saw about a .2 inch gain (half a cm)…It sure doesn’t sound like much, but it’s an incredible boost for me, validating all the pain and inconvenience I’ve been going through is perhaps paying off…
And…I swear to everyone out there I am not a shill for any ‘natural” enlargement product!

[hoddle10]

messageman, what was you origninal length, before you had any surgery or used any extender type devices and what is your current length?

[messageman]

Apr 14, 2011 10:36:19 GMT -5 hoddle10 said:

messageman, what was you origninal length, before you had any surgery or used any extender type devices and what is your current length?

Original: 6.3 inches...
Current: 8.2 inches

[hoddle10]

Apr 14, 2011 10:42:59 GMT -5 messageman said:

Apr 14, 2011 10:36:19 GMT -5 hoddle10 said:

messageman, what was you origninal length, before you had any surgery or used any extender type devices and what is your current length?

Original: 6.3 inches...
Current: 8.2 inches

Wow that's impressive! What device were you wearing for the bulk of those gains?

[messageman]

It's been 15 years of surgery (ligaments cut), an all-day-stretcher (for the last 2 years), Manual stretching (pulling and tugging my penis) basically whenever I have the chance…usually when I’m alone and in front of the TV …And since last November…Hanging weights…
It’s been “years and tears” mate…
But the main thing here is that it is possible to gain length through consistency and tenacity…
Messageman

[justabitmore]

Any update on this messageman? btw is that erect lenght? I thought getting the ligament cut only increased flacid gains??

[hsarge]

I have had the Bib for a year. Sorry I wasted time and money on home made hangers. The Bib is infinitely adjustable and I hang as much as 20 pounds. Oh, no hemmeroids either.