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Post by idm on Feb 9, 2011 14:12:07 GMT -5
Correction: meant to say: "INJECTING FILLER"....NOT INFECTING! Lol- what a difference a letter makes huh?!
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Post by Skeptical One on Feb 9, 2011 15:28:47 GMT -5
idmI modified your post so it reads "injecting." You should be able to edit previous posts, if you have issues with this, please let me know.
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Post by sparticus on Feb 28, 2011 2:38:58 GMT -5
In regards to Dr. Runels, I would caution anyone considering his new procedure. Although platelet rich plasma injections have been shown to be very safe and there is emerging evidence for the efficacy in treating tendon injuries, there is absolutely no evidence to support it increasing the size the penis. His procedure makes no sense biologically for what he is claiming, he never clarifies the mechanism, which he thinks it will work. He has posted on multiple PE site and forums claiming he is not advertising for his experimental procedure and bails when people start asking questions. I'm sure most of you have noticed by now his behavior is fishy. Dr. Runel has had a run in with the FDA over ethics violations (research on homeless). I remember reading another incident as well, but will not state it until I find the original complaint I recall reading to back it up. www.fda.gov/downloads/RegulatoryInformation/FOI/ElectronicReadingRoom/UCM143673.pdf |
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Post by kingpin on Mar 1, 2011 1:16:37 GMT -5
From what ive seen and read of Dr.Runels, he seems very reputable and the fact that he is willing to come on here and talk at all is ALOT more than any other PE doctor has done. What other sites are you talking about that he has posted on? and can u please provide a link to show us? thx...
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Post by sparticus on Mar 1, 2011 2:40:36 GMT -5
Well, another member and I posted a link about his ethics violation and if you google and search for a while you will find formal documentation regarding more issues. As for the other sites, I recall one being PEgym and I'm not sure of the other, if you are interested google it. If you find him reputable, then its your body do what you want. I, along with other members, have voiced our concerns. Its not our job to police anyone.
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Post by acu on Mar 1, 2011 8:00:44 GMT -5
Well, another member and I posted a link about his ethics violation and if you google and search for a while you will find formal documentation regarding more issues. As for the other sites, I recall one being PEgym and I'm not sure of the other, if you are interested google it. If you find him reputable, then its your body do what you want. I, along with other members, have voiced our concerns. Its not our job to police anyone. Sparticus: Just curious - what do you think about the Elist Implant? |
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Post by idm on Mar 2, 2011 0:59:19 GMT -5
HI
Excellent question acu...
Maybe we should start a thread on "Professional Medical Ethics"...if the administrator decides to do that, it might be interesting for forum members to familiarize themselves w/the physicians oath...
Just a thought.
Idm
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Post by sparticus on Mar 3, 2011 20:00:29 GMT -5
Well, another member and I posted a link about his ethics violation and if you google and search for a while you will find formal documentation regarding more issues. As for the other sites, I recall one being PEgym and I'm not sure of the other, if you are interested google it. If you find him reputable, then its your body do what you want. I, along with other members, have voiced our concerns. Its not our job to police anyone. Sparticus: Just curious - what do you think about the Elist Implant? It appears to have a high complication rate based on the anecdotal evidence here and on the net. Some people on here claim success, but from what I am reading its the minority. I assume its made out of silicone, which has been shown to have a negative impact on health. There also appears to be shills creating a false sense of success rate when many are claiming to be maimed by the operation. Any surgeon that engages in such behavior lacks basic morality belongs in prison not in an operation room. Even if the operation was successful, I wouldn't be aesthetically pleased with an implant, especially if I could feel it or see it in either flaccid or erect states. So, I wouldn't get the implant or recommend it. |
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Post by sparticus on Mar 3, 2011 20:04:13 GMT -5
IDM
I thought you had stated in a previous post that you were going to get or had just gotten what you thought was to be your last "top up" for your FFT procedure. My understanding is that FFT is only stable for periods then begins to reabsorb over time. Did I misinterpret your post or do you feel that the fat will remain permanently? If you believe it will not reabsorb, what convinced you that it will not? I ask because everything I have read has stated it reabsorbs in time and "top ups" are a life long commitment if you want to maintain the size.
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Post by sparticus on Mar 3, 2011 20:47:02 GMT -5
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Post by kingpin on Mar 5, 2011 2:53:40 GMT -5
Sparticus:
I read your link and What Dr.Runels was charged with doing in my opinion was the typical reaction of the medical establishment to any form of testosterone or human growth hormone replacement. They want to stop it despite all the beneficial effects it has.
I happen to have alot of experience with these compounds and can tell you any doctor prescribing them to people is more likely to be an enlightend doctor on medical issues, anti aging, health and sex health. Sometimes when you work slightly outside the box you are punished for it and in from the limited information on that link i feel that would be the case here.
Anyone else who has experience with testosterone and HGH on this forum im sure will second my opinion on its benefits and also its lack of side effects.
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Post by sparticus on Mar 5, 2011 13:22:03 GMT -5
"They want to stop it despite all the beneficial effects it has."
First he wasn't just charged with misprescribing these hormones, the board felt he was also inadequately monitoring the paitents after the injections to insure no adverse reactions were occurring. That by definition is malpractice.
Testosterone and HGH can have serious health consequences even when prescribed even for legitimate purposes. The reason the medical establishment is so strict on their use is that these hormones do not always act predictably in individuals. Some individuals when given supplemental testosterone can experience significant and permanent liver damage even when the dosing is correct. The role of HGH in heart enlargement is well documented and its role in tumor development is still being investigated. Any doctor who tells you that actively playing with hormones in relatively healthy individuals is a safe, effective, and well researched area is a liar and is the guy who is pushing those treatments as a miracle or cure all. These hormones can be used in some cases for individuals with hormonal deficiencies or other disorders, but to supplement these in a normal person is malpractice given the available medical literature.
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Post by kingpin on Mar 5, 2011 19:37:27 GMT -5
Well im to lazy to get in a debate with you about this issue and type it all out, but i will say i disagree with you 100%. Like i said i have had alot of experience with these hormones and you sound like an after school special telling me the risks, that are actually very minimal.
Sadly, any doctor that decides to use these hormones in North america gets in trouble.
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Post by sparticus on Mar 6, 2011 2:07:40 GMT -5
I have no issue with you disagreeing with me, ultimately its your body and you can do whatever you feel is right for you. Just as a friendly suggestion, I recommend you read up on the medical literature in regards to hormone therapy to best protect yourself.
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Post by kingpin on Mar 6, 2011 17:40:42 GMT -5
And I have a friendly suggestion for you.... Try to think outside the box a little and you need to realize that the same medical professinals and medical texts your referring to: Also claimed anabolic steroids didnt cause any muscle gain ONLY water retention. As you realize anyone with any form of common sense knows that is false, but the medical profession swore up and down for 50 years that was the case.
As you can see by this simple example, sometimes things the medical profession claim to be fact can change as they learn more about it and in my opinion this will be the case with HGH, male hormone therapy, testosterone etc... In fact most doctors who use these hormones on a regular basis praise there benefits...
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