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Post by messageman on Nov 12, 2010 9:35:40 GMT -5
Donjuannabe In reference to your question… I believe there are a lot of factors involved when giving a woman sexual satisfaction…Confidence and technique are definitely important and should never be understated… That being said, having the unique experience of having various different sizes throughout my life (due to surgery), I can say that having a large sized penis, especially a girthy one, is very important…and can bring sex to a completely different level. That's just my two cents... MM Hi guys, I am curious as to how much more "amazing" sex has been for the implant patients now, compared to before? Is it anything like messageman describes in his encounter with his French lover (like did it changed her life for the better )? Thank you for sharing.
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Post by donjuannabe on Nov 13, 2010 11:35:13 GMT -5
Thanks Messageman. I agree with you on confidence and technique playing a major part in lovemaking. I feel I have a pretty good technique since I have had to rely on that more than a large penis to get a girl to where she wants to be, but the confidence is where I lack and I know it comes from having a small wang. Honestly, if I could have anything in life it would be a bigger penis. Even if it was big enough to be a bit bigger than average I would be a new man. My length right now is just a bit over 5bp with an erect girth of 4inches I am bitter about it because I feel cheated in this department. I guess I can say I don't just want a bigger member, I need it. And I am really glad that I can come here and talk with you guys about it. Thank you for that. And sorry for hijacking this thread; I will start a new one with my background info for anyone who is interested.
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Post by Skeptical One on Nov 26, 2010 19:45:32 GMT -5
BUMP!
I want to be sure visiting guests and members see this so we get more contribution to the survey.
I'm still split between FFT and Implant. Supposedly there is a new "softer" version of the implant and perhaps even a revised technique, I'm hoping some answers come trickling in soon.
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stormy
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Post by stormy on Nov 26, 2010 20:32:26 GMT -5
Hey Skeptical One,
Have you tried sending an email to Elist to get some more information? I recently sent one and he has yet to respond although I plan to send another one very soon. I basically inquired about the new material as well as what revisions he has made to the procedure.
If I hear anything I'll post here about it.
stormy
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Post by mustang2020 on Nov 26, 2010 22:26:44 GMT -5
Email is a bit slow with Dr. E. Try calling his secretary, she is responsive and can get you in touch with him.
Last I heard, he was getting shipment of the new implant by the end of October 2010, hence he should have done a couple of them by now.
I was tempted to try it, but I am not going thru this shit again without a huge assurance it will be as described, else I will go Belladerm.
"edited for contents"
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Post by Skeptical One on Nov 26, 2010 22:44:49 GMT -5
It isn't just the prosthesis I care about, its the technique itself. Dr. Elist must demonstrate
1) why retraction occurred with some patients with the old prosthesis and/or technique
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2) what does his new prosthesis and/or technique does to resolve the retraction problem so its non-existent.
That's right... "non-existent!" Because as far as I'm concerned, there should be no reason to offer "Lengthening" as a procedure that faces a risk of LOSING LENGTH. It seems like something in the procedure is NOT fundamentally sound.
I understand that any phalloplasty method is a work in progress, and techniques are being improved every year. Which is why I will give the doctor the benefit of the doubt and hope he can really give us some answers.
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Post by Skeptical One on Nov 26, 2010 22:46:09 GMT -5
oh and Stormy, as for contacting the Doctor... I bothered not to.
I'm already aware of 2 others who have proposed the same question to him, now you make 3. I figured if I also wrote to him, it would only slow him that much more in getting a response. I would, however, contact him by phone if this information doesn't hit PhalloBoards sooner than later.
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Post by stormy on Nov 27, 2010 19:26:35 GMT -5
Hi,
Quick purge of ideas/rant. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Regarding his technique, something that occurred to me was why hasn't he done any real time analysis of the prosthesis's function while the penis is erect.
Although I'm not familiar with medical technology I'm sure there is hardware/equipment out there that would allow him to witness a patient having an erection(most likely through an erection aid such as viagra) and then view how the implant functions within the penis as it goes from flaccid to erect. I do realize there could be a level of discomfort in how to workout the logistics of analyzing a man's erection, however there have been various other studies done regarding the mechanisms behind sexual intercourse so I imagine a good professional algorithm could be devised.
Because this is a subcutaneous implant and isn't ultra invasive, in terms of implant technique this could be viewed as a bio-mechanical problem with the most pressing challenge being the dynamic nature/environment(stresses from sex) of the penis and the volumetric changes that occur.
I believe understanding the mechanisms behind body and implant could yield big breakthroughs in implant techniques. Stress analysis, movement of implant, etc.
Marknmau's decision to not have the implant stitched seems like a great idea to me. Presumably because of the shape of the implant relative to where it's implant doesn't really give it alot of option to shift anywhere else in the body. I would also assume that once the capsule has formed(give or take 6 months avg.) the capsule, being live tissue will also have healed to the corpus cavernosum thus "keeping" the implant in place. Of course, the patient would have to be okay with the uncut look.
Additionally, I've discussed with Elist the possibility of having custom made implants with which he replied positively. I also remember at MNS someone writing about Elist offering that option but have yet to hear about it since. It seems to me that may help a lot of problems as well as the ratio from flaccid to erect and the shape of the penis differs greatly for each patient.
I have read some men having luck with regaining length with some pretty intense stretching routines after everything has healed sufficiently. Obviously stretching technique will have to accommodate the implant and not disrupt anything, but I feel that that is a work in progress. Studying various natural PE(penis enlargement) forums and researching various stretching techniques may yield some good information. Right off the bat I would say fairly low weight/tension would have to be used. I think the question of when one could/should start stretching would also be important.
I would think that once you've acquired the desired length, you could scale back the stretching routine and perform what is called a maintenance routine, basically doing the minimal amount of stretching to maintain length for a certain amount of time to help "cement" the gains acquired. This generally takes about 6 months of maintenance with a gradual decline in routine length.
As Skeptical One pointed out, phalloplasty is very much a work in progress and in my opinion still in it's infantile stages. Because of the taboo nature of the subject funds/time put into R&D have been very limited. In time I hope this changes(and damn soon) but until I think it's good to share ideas. One would think given the progress we've made in countless other areas of studies it wouldn't be that hard to come up with a decent subcutaneous implant for the penis.
There are numerous other body mods based on the same principle: Implant object subcutaneously, capsular scar tissue builds around biologically inert object to "seal" it away from body. The only problem as previously stated is how to deal with dynamic volume changes and not disrupt previous dimensions, length in particular.
That's the information I have to share at the moment. I have other thoughts/ideas but this is what hit me right at the moment. I apologize for it not being very cohesive or having good structure.
Thanks, good luck and looking forward to reading more, stormy
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Post by mustang2020 on Nov 28, 2010 0:43:36 GMT -5
I see the following problems with the implant:
Infection due to surgery. Infection AFTER surgery due to patient hygiene swelling due to early sex Swelling due to sharp edges of implant Loss of length due to stitching, wrong length of implant and/or scar tissue attaching implant to pubic bone area. Implant coming loose due to stitches popping. Implant separating in the middle of its self forming two pieces, length wise Patient wrapping too short of a time. Lack of Surgical attention to details such as incorrect length, sharp edges and implant tilted to right side.
There are some very good benefits to implant:
Fantastic assured girth gains, easily up to 7 inches or more at the base Length gains in the Flaccid state only. Excellent for micro penis patients. Erect hardness is almost identical to a natural one No absorption hence no loss of girth. Can be updated with new implants fairly easily.
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