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Post by mustang2020 on Jun 4, 2011 3:02:36 GMT -5
There is no doubt that the Girth increase cases with PMMA have been a great success so far.
It seems only logical to see if there is a glans enhancement to make the penis more proportionate after PMMA for some people. I have heard of a certain type of oil/acid that can be injected into the glans for a temporary increase but I have not read about any one doing it on this site. Even thu this method may last for a few months, if it is not too expensive it may be worth it....
Are there any risks if some of the injected fluid from the glans area would go into the PMMA area and cause problems?
Your thoughts?
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Post by smartman on Jun 4, 2011 7:16:54 GMT -5
mustang2020,
Great topic, all the doctors will inject a temporary fillers in the glans and no pmma because there is a risk of injecting these beads into the vessels of the corpus spongiosus and can cause emboli (lung emboli) or a chance of necrosis .
I have asked Prof.Lemperle about that if he can have a solution for that (btw he has never injected pmma into the penis) he said pmma can be injected and he has explained it to me he said there are 2 ways -
a) The size of the microspheres (the molecules) has to be bigger than the diameter of the veins in the C.S. (and he said that can be done, he will check what is the biggest diameter of the veins in the glans) so there will be no chance of migration or injecting these beads into the vessels.
b) The other way he said when the doctor inject the local anesthesia (or the temporary fillers e.g. hayaloronic acid or macrolane ) in the corona of the glans you will have blebs (the outer layer of the glans will be elevated and detached temporary from the underneath layer) and in this space there will be no blood vessels it will look paler so the doctor can inject pmma (of course smaller concentration) into it with no chance of implanting the beads into the vessels .
So to answer your question mustang- there will be no problem if the temporary fluid goes into the pmma area ( the answer is above in (b) ).
Cheers
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Post by mustang2020 on Jun 4, 2011 13:17:03 GMT -5
Good, so we may have some options.
I am also thinking it can be done the other way, ie do glans first, let it settle and then do pmma!! seems a bit safer this way. Of course when the acid is absorbed in a few months, then one has a choice of doing what you suggested in B above, or just move on with his original glans size. I think This is the kind of discussion that may get us what we all want: girth, glans and later on length enhancements!
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Post by smartman on Jun 4, 2011 14:23:36 GMT -5
The only problem I think will be (even if prof. lemperle had succeeded to solve the problem) we will not find a doctor to do it, they just dont want to have any complications. I even have asked Lemperle can it be done on animals (I know may be some of you will be against this idea) before it can be tried on human , he said now it is getting v. difficult to do animal experiments ( in north america and europe ).
He also mentioned- a doctor can try to inject a very small amount of pmma in the glans just 2-3 mm area ( by one of these 2 methods I have mentioned before) this area will get pale after the injection and the doctor has to massage this area afterward( usually necrosis wont happen straightaway only after around 6 hrs IF it happens ) and he said even if a necrosis happened there will be no harm it is only 2-3 mm scar ( lol ), I think no one of us will give it a try haha , Lemperle , he will always try to find a solution for any obstacles , he is 75 y.o. and he is doing a lot of researches on using pmma ( bigger molecules ) injection in other fields e.g. for people with urinary incontinence and also for people with reflux esophagitis (and he has great results in treating these diseases) .
mustang, about what you have mentioned : ( girth, glans and later on length enhancements!)
In my opinion first length enhancement , girth , then (after you are very satisfied with the girth) glans
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Post by Skeptical One on Jun 4, 2011 16:42:44 GMT -5
The biggest problem I see with most glans enhancement options is that they are temporary. In my opinion, the cost & healing/recovery, the temporary gain, and arguably limited gain with the need for endless touch-ups seems a bit much. Hopefully a permanent, safe, and effective glans solution will find its way to the forums, but I can almost certainly tell you that it doesn't get much Research & Development (especially when the very few R&D in phalloplasty is aimed at strictly length & girth increases). The anatomical nature of the glans also makes this whole procedure riskier and more complex.
I should note that Dr. Casavantes does not recommend PMMA for the glans.
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Post by briceb on Jun 4, 2011 17:00:58 GMT -5
I am very interested in this too. I am seriously considering PMMA but definitely want to have a very natural and symetrical outcome. I do not have a small glans, but certainly would be interested in increasing its size for asthetics.
I have seen that you can increase the glans via alloderm and dermal grafts, but I really don't know if the benefit is large enough to go that direction.
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Post by mrdeezy on Jun 4, 2011 20:49:09 GMT -5
I think the best option would be pumping with those cylinders made for head pumping. Calcium hydroxylapatite works similar to PMMA and might be an option for the glans.
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Post by allgood on Jun 5, 2011 1:13:37 GMT -5
mrdeezy, can you link me to a cylinder designed for head pumping?
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Post by mrdeezy on Jun 5, 2011 3:01:57 GMT -5
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Post by Skeptical One on Jun 5, 2011 3:25:23 GMT -5
Has anyone ever considered trying the ballooning technique? At least the one I'm familiar with is something I will try when I hit my 6 week marker.
Essentially you get erect to the point bordering (or edging as they call it) ejaculation without actually ejaculating. Try to hold this and continue to kegel, allowing the glans to be fully engorged and "ballooned." Adding jelqs into the mix I'm sure helps. Not sure the duration but I suspect this method could aid in improving glans size. It most definitely can improve erection quality and the ability to last longer.
This technique is technically called "edging," but the ballooning comes from the focus on trying to have your glans maxed out over a period of time. I've read about this somewhere years ago and haven't tried it, just an idea.
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Post by mustang2020 on Jun 6, 2011 1:01:47 GMT -5
The only problem I think will be (even if prof. lemperle had succeeded to solve the problem) we will not find a doctor to do it, they just dont want to have any complications. I even have asked Lemperle can it be done on animals (I know may be some of you will be against this idea) before it can be tried on human , he said now it is getting v. difficult to do animal experiments ( in north america and europe ). He also mentioned- a doctor can try to inject a very small amount of pmma in the glans just 2-3 mm area ( by one of these 2 methods I have mentioned before) this area will get pale after the injection and the doctor has to massage this area afterward( usually necrosis wont happen straightaway only after around 6 hrs IF it happens ) and he said even if a necrosis happened there will be no harm it is only 2-3 mm scar ( lol ), I think no one of us will give it a try haha , Lemperle , he will always try to find a solution for any obstacles , he is 75 y.o. and he is doing a lot of researches on using pmma ( bigger molecules ) injection in other fields e.g. for people with urinary incontinence and also for people with reflux esophagitis (and he has great results in treating these diseases) . mustang, about what you have mentioned : ( girth, glans and later on length enhancements!) In my opinion first length enhancement , girth , then (after you are very satisfied with the girth) glans Actually I was thinking glans enhancement, pmma for girth and then if and when we have a reliable method, length enhancement ( I may not have explained it properly before)
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Post by hunkchunk on Jun 6, 2011 4:58:56 GMT -5
Granted you're able to reach by some other means a length at max between 6 and 7 inches (to accommodate most women's facilities) and with the girth issue at long last put to rest thanks to Dr Lemperle's PMMA procedure masterfully executed by Dr Casavantes, the last "stretch" in our quest for an enhanced penile experience will be the conquest of the gland.
I am actually, despite common sense telling me otherwise, considering having a gland injection with temporary effect only. I think that there is a place in the UK which does this for a relatively reasonable price. Does anyone know if it is excruciatingly painful? This is the most sensory part of our body. Also does it swell up as much or for as long as the PMMA injection? Thanks for any feedback.
HC
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Post by hunkchunk on Jun 19, 2011 6:22:35 GMT -5
@all
Those of you with massive girth following enhancement surgery, with 6" to 7.5" girth - did you already have a large glans or how does it look at the end of such a humungous rod?
My own glans is actually on the small side and even if larger girth is necessary to make the ladies happy I don't want it to look like a fat man wearing a tiny cap...
Thanks for your comments in awaiting pictures on the forthcoming new board.
HC
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Post by Skeptical One on Jun 19, 2011 6:32:22 GMT -5
There is definitely a risk of having a "pig in a blanket" effect when obtaining significant girth and no glans enhancement. In my flaccid form (after the swelling subsided and the glans returned to normal size), my appearance has a slight "pig in the blanket" look.
If you are not sure what those are (pig in the blanket), Google it. I used to call the effect the "corndog" effect, but I believe the "PITB" is more accurate.
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Post by hunkchunk on Jun 19, 2011 10:10:34 GMT -5
Hi SO, That's really sort of what I want to avoid: So I'll be ordering one of these: Mushroom Head Maker CylinderNot much chance that it will help enough to unwrap that blanket, but what the heck, anything is worth a try... HC
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