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Post by sizemic on May 15, 2011 5:11:17 GMT -5
sizemic just curious but where are you from? i want to do this and i'm from wisconsin so it kind of freaks me out because anything could go wrong and i could be flying out there and have a delay or osmething and could miss my appointment. thanks for the help dude. any advice is helpful. I am from the great white north of Canada man. I wont say exactly... but lets say within an hour from Toronto Ontario. Tell me about being freaked out... I am 22... Still a student (who happens to have enough cash to spend on this)... from Canada... who will not be telling anyone where he is going for a few days (including lying to those who care about him by saying he is with friends camping). Not to mention I am going to a sketchy ass part of Mexico to get a cosmetic procedure done by some doctor who uses material not approved in the US... Imagine something were to go wrong and I will be in Mexico by myself with nowhere to go and no one to call... Worse yet say my plane crashes?! No one would even know I planned on leaving to go anywhere on a plane. The police investigation would only find out once they check my passport / visa bills that I was on route to San Diego.... I think its best not to think of all these worst case scenarios... Missing my appointment is the least of my worries. All that you can do is focus on things that you can control. 1. I am using the shuttle service. There will be someone waiting for me where I pick up my luggage. From there they will take me to the clinic then back across the border to my hotel (Merriot). 2. My hotel is on the US side of the border. With the shuttle, litterally I will only be taking likely less than 30 steps in Mexico. From the shuttle to the clinic, then from the clinic to the shuttle. 3. I believe there has been enough positive experiance with Dr. C here that I trust him and his work. So am I worried?... A little. But in the big picture... I would be just was worried to travel to San Diego / Mexico to spend a weekend on the beach. My biggest fear is not being happy with my results or being one of the very very few with a serious complication. I am quite young (22) so I am hoping everything goes well and I can go back to being a typical 22 year old (with an execptionally large penis )... There is no doubt he's had Alloderm. Other than the fact that it's visible in some scene's to the trained eye, Sara Jay even asked him if he'd had "dick work" in one scene, as it was bigger than the last time she's scene it. Hmm can you direct me to a video or pic where you can see it (via PM works if posting such a link is frowned upon here). Thanks man! [EDITED] removed a long winded irrelevant story.
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Post by gerryc on May 15, 2011 7:58:25 GMT -5
Hello smartman Have been reading Sizemic'c blog and am in the same boat as him would love to get the procedure done but worried about long term complications. My worry was basically with infection and the resulting need for the PMMA to to surgically removed through some type of scraping method. Although i believe this was extremely rare Your comments " There was never an infection with Pmma, due to the tremendous amount of macrophages will not allow an infection of particulate injectables" was greatly comforting. However i seem to remember that an article that i think Hoddle10 first posted did mention something about infections from PMMA. However i could be wrong. Here's the link www.juliogoelzer.com.br/complicacoes_metacrilato.pdfFor some reason i cant seem to get it working. Does any one have a link that is working. The document was quite quite good and was mainly about 32 cases of complications arising from Pmma. Although many if not all can be safely dismissed as due to poor technique or unpure PMMA at the time. Smartman do you have any more information concerning the impossibility of infection from PMMA as this would be greatly appreciated
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Post by hoddle10 on May 15, 2011 9:02:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't worry about infections, as they are so rare. The issue we need to worry about is granulomas. The trouble with all the articles and reports concering PMMA is that we don't know which opinions to trust and we don't know about the circumstances concering each problem. For example, we don't know how much was injected, the experience of the Dr doing the injection or the quality of the PMMA. Dr Casavantes claims that when injecting below the skin, he's never seen a case a proper granuloma. Dr Serra claims to have seen just one. These two appear to be the most experienced biolplasty Dr's aside for Nacul. But are these guys trustworthy? I can't comment as I've never met them. That would be a question best answered by those who have met Dr Casavantes. Many US Dr's claim granuloma's are far more common than the very low percentage reported in the literature, but they are almost certainly claiming every small lump to be a granuloma. Also US Dr's would almost exclusively see patients who had PMMA injected into the skin as oppossed to below it. Lemperle seems to think that surgical removal isn't needed when granulomas occur and that they can be treated with steroid injections etc, whilst anti PMMA Dr's say this isn't true. However, I read an independant study yesterday that seems to confirm what Lemperle is saying. They treated 10 patients with granulomas and they were all resolved without the need for surgery. So first you've got to be one of the unlucky one's who have a serious inflammatory reaction. And then you'd need to be unlucky again in that you failed to respond to steroid based treatments. If Casavantes and Serra are honest guys, then the chances of having serious granulomas are probably less than 1 in 1000. And if Lemperle and the guys who wrote the report I read yesterday are honest, it seems you'd have a very good chance of not requiring surgical removal. So based on that the chances of the terrible consequences are in the several thousands to one.
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Post by gerryc on May 15, 2011 9:26:52 GMT -5
hoddle10Think your right Hoddle10, it all comes down too who we believe. Considering the conflicting information floating about PMMA it can be confusing at times Would be interested in reading the independent review you found. If you could post a link, much appreciated.
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Post by hoddle10 on May 15, 2011 9:59:37 GMT -5
Here you go: www.carruthers.net/files/pdfs/66dc66eb8c1f05065ff2cde0fb6a2d46.pdfFrom my point of view, I'm only really interested in complication rates using biolplasty technique, below the dermis. To be honest i don't think any of the reports posted here are particuarly, if at all, useful. There seem to be so many uncertainties and crontradications, based on so many different variables. The only information Im really interested in is what Dr Casavantes has to say and what the patients who post on here report. Complications using a different type of PMMA, into a different dermal layer and using a different technique, don't really tell us anything, but just give cause for concern, which could be misplaced. I'm definitely not saying using New Plastic and Dr Casavantes is safe, but that we shouldn't assume the complictions we've read about are relevant to the work Dr C is doing.
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Post by gerryc on May 15, 2011 10:20:13 GMT -5
Hoddle10
Thanks man.
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Post by sizemic on May 15, 2011 13:04:29 GMT -5
Wow great info and discussion, thanks hoddle10 and gerryc!
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Post by smartman on May 15, 2011 14:48:40 GMT -5
gerryc,
Lemperle told me " There was never an infection with Pmma, due to the tremendous amount of macrophages will not allow an infection of particulate injectables".
To prove that it is safe in regard of infection -
The inventor of the pmma ( Lemperle ) and my brazillian surgeon told me-- "Patients DONT need antibiotic before or after pmma injection" there is no risk of infection. SO THEY DONT GIVE ANTIBIOTIC FOR PMMA INJECTION . But they advised me to take antibiotic (in my case) because I had Alloderm and there was still remnant of it in my penis and there is a high risk of infection of the remnant of the alloderm through the insertion of the cannula (and not due to pmma) which can allow the entry of bacteria .
But it is better to follow Dr.C's instructions , he recommends his patients to take antibiotic , so you should do that , he wants to be on the safe side .
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Post by smartman on May 15, 2011 15:04:45 GMT -5
Let me try to compare pmma with alloderm or belladerm in regard of the risk of infection
My previous surgeon was Dr.Rosenthal 2007 I had Alloderm and he gave me one shot of I.V. antibiotic e.g Ancef before the surgery and he advised me to take oral antibiotic for THREE WEEKS and he told never allow water to come to your wounds for THREE WEEKS also . He was so afraid of infection which can destroy your penis and ( he was absolutely right to be safe ).
But on the other hand you dont need antibiotic for pmma injection (the inventor's words) and Dr.C. said as far as I remember you can have a shower (in the same day or after 1-2 days I am not sure) post injection . So can you see the difference between these materials in regard of the risk of the infection.
But I would listen to my treating doctor and to be on the safe side , take the antibiotic as Dr.C.'s advice
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Post by gerryc on May 15, 2011 15:48:36 GMT -5
smartmanThats good to know. Am sure a lot of people thinking of having the procedure will feel more confident in their decision now. Knowing that the risk of infection from PMMA years down the line is not a factor.
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Post by sizemic on May 17, 2011 0:21:41 GMT -5
Hey guys so today I did a little experiment to see what a really girthy penis would feel like in my hands and how it visually would look looking down on it. I wrapped my penis in soft tensor bandage, then unrolled a silicon sheath over it to give it a more penis type look... ended up with a 7" girth mid-shaft. 1. The head doesn't look tooo small at all in relation to the shaft. Also my length seemed to stand up to the girthness as well. What I mean is it doesn't look shorter at all because the penis is fatter. 2. My hand couldn't even come close to wrapping around it... I can just imagine what sex would be like with a tool like that. Definitely a different experience for sure. 3. I really really hope I can achieve a shape like this (or better). I also am starting to think that I want at least 6.5" of girth rather than just 6". Naturally, 6" is the initial goal.... I can't shoot too big too fast. I'd be perfectly happy with achieving these results over an extended period of time. But 6" is definitely the minimum I want to achieve through this process. Here's a link to my blog post with some pics: sizemic.blogspot.com/2011/05/what-7-girth-mid-shaft-could-look-like.htmlQuestion: Say after a few years there is some sort of complication... OR the inevitable lust for more work takes hold. Say by this point Dr. C or some other Doc uses a new different type of PMMA... would there be issues in using a new type while the old type is still there? Could complications arise from that? The only reason I ask is that I am young... and like a boob job or any other cosmetic work, things change with age and I am sure there would need to be sprusing up years down the line... I'd hate to be stranded on some old product if something new comes on the scene.
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Post by mrdeezy on May 17, 2011 1:46:10 GMT -5
Not sure why you would want to change the material if it's working and it lasts. But either way I doubt there would be any interaction between the two types of filler. Remember most of the bulk is from your own tissue and not the plastic. I guess in the future ideally the growth would come from inside the CC rather than the inner skin - it would give a more natural appearance when flaccid and allow a more even enlargement right up to the head. But I'm considering this a permanent solution and good enough for me, no need for anything 'better'.
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Post by hoddle10 on May 17, 2011 8:28:09 GMT -5
I'd ignore your experiment if I were you. Shaft skin compliancy is key and your experiment doesn't reflect that.
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Post by capital on May 17, 2011 9:22:59 GMT -5
I am concerned about this shaft skin compliancy problem: to what extent would you say it's an obstacle for successful pmma injections? Mine is tight and thin but with 4.4 in erect girth I need to do something!
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Post by hoddle10 on May 17, 2011 9:43:28 GMT -5
Have you tried pumping to give the skin more elasticity?
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