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Post by messageman on Feb 26, 2011 5:36:15 GMT -5
Something really needs to be done about Dr Elist. Has anyone been over to MNS recently and seen how it's all starting up again. There is a guy called Taxman who is as obvious a shill as Newgirth. Now another guy has come along, called MrThick, saying he yet another Elist success story and he glad to read there are so many. As a victim of botched surgery it makes my blood boil. Two years ago I did everything I could to warn against the Elist implant, but was silenced and couldn't compete with the numerous glowing reports from his "patients" on MNS (virtually all of whom disappeared when Elist and Chad ended their business arrangement). Unfortunately it appears lots of guys fell for the BS posted by the shills over there and they too had to experience the devestation of PE surgery gone wrong. It's going to happen again. At want point does Dr Elist's mental state have to be brought into question? We can blame Chad or whoever else he has promoting his work, but ultimately it's Elist himself that has effectively been trialling his various implants on unsuspecting guys for around a decade. What kind of person can contiually perform this surgery whilst knowing full well his succes rate isn't anywhere near what it shoud be? From what I know of Dr Elist he is a supposedly charming guy, but clearly lacks empathy and is prepared to trample over people's lives to get what he wants. These are clear character traits of a psychopath. SO you may feel you need to delete or edit my post, as I'm insuating Dr Elist may have a serious psychological illness, so please make any chages you need to. But something clearly isn't right here and it's very frustrating being so powerless to prevent more guys suffering in the way I and many others have. It's funny you should write this because right before you posted, I private messaged Mr.thick telling him I was interested in what he had to say…He mailed be back within an hour and asked me if I had had the surgery done yet… I then messaged him back what I thought about Dr. Elist and the shills on the site; he hasn’t returned that email yet. MNS is now crawling with shills….I have private messaged some of the legitimate members on the site to warn them of the shenanigans going on over there but I’m not sure whether or not the site is censoring those. I, of course, can no longer post over there…and when I mailed the site administrator warning of the shill activity and the culpability that the site bears…Of course there was no answer. Gentlemen, I’m not a lawyer but I have to believe that this is all very illegal (as IDM has has so eloquently written more than once).,,,and it’s unbelievable the doctor has been doing this now for years with impunity. I guess he feels secure in the knowledge that most men who get penis enlargement surgery will never bring a lawsuit for fear of being publicly humiliated…And he’s probably right. Could you imagine if a doctor were to employ a new type of laser surgery to correct vision and advertise that the complication rate as less than 1%?…Meanwhile the true complication rate is upwards toward 80%. He employs shills on the Internet to recruit unsuspecting, gullible patients and many of them eventually are permanently injured by this experimental surgery. If this were to occur, I’m quite sure the doctor would be finding himself in a courtroom very quickly…But for some reason, because it has to do with the still taboo subject of penis enhancement, Dr. Elist is allowed to do get away with it. And…I can’t believe those “documents” we sign before surgery would exonerate him (if it were ever to come to a trial) because we are all being duped before we sign anything by shills, BS data, and false promises….by a board certified urologist! If he were to tell us the risks up front, I would be absolutely OK with all this. It’s just the lies and deception that drive me crazy. Hell, I don’t care about punishing the guy, I just want this craziness to stop. I’ve said this before and I will say it again…If I can prevent one guy from suffering the way I have, then all this will be worth it. Just my 2 cents, MM
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Post by bigbizo8 on Feb 26, 2011 6:29:24 GMT -5
Sheldon somebody needs to do a story on him and get some cold hard facts. I would really love to know the % of his success story and his horror also! I really was going to have it done but noway Jose!
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Post by allofme2 on Feb 26, 2011 14:46:46 GMT -5
Hey guys - here's what we do set up a known shill directory - I'm starting a new link
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Post by allofme2 on Mar 3, 2011 2:34:29 GMT -5
My one complaint with this site is that its PM system does not send an alert to the member's private email. So often messages go unanswered as members are unaware they have a message. Does anyone perhaps have contact with terrarvm. More of his input would be helpful as he started this thread.
It is my observation for what it is worth that those that have been damaged by PE just fall away from these forums as indeed do people who have had success. The reasons are obvious - the victims go off to lick their wounds and the successful just get on with their lives.
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Post by Skeptical One on Mar 3, 2011 5:47:08 GMT -5
allofme2There is an option that allows PMs to send an alert to your email. Goto the inbox, on the toolbar there should be a Preferences Link. There you can have it enabled. I should probably put a sticky up for that.
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Post by sheldon on Mar 7, 2011 21:25:35 GMT -5
Sheldon somebody needs to do a story on him and get some cold hard facts. I would really love to know the % of his success story and his horror also! I really was going to have it done but noway Jose! Does anyone know how to contact Chris Hensen, John Stossel, and/or Brian Ross about doing a story on Elist and the shill activity?
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Post by allofme2 on Mar 30, 2011 22:37:29 GMT -5
Does anyone have any idea what's happened to Terravrm
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Post by Skeptical One on Mar 31, 2011 0:13:44 GMT -5
allofme2His last login was Jan 29th of this year. Hope all is well with him.
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Post by patrickeire on Jul 9, 2011 11:51:51 GMT -5
Hi folks, please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Patrick, I am from Ireland, and I had surgery with Dr. Elist in January of 2010 (penile implant). I have taken out a huge loan to travel to the US, stay at a hotel, and have the surgery done. It will be onother 3 years before my loan is paid off!
Initially, I was very happy with Dr. Elist's implant. I did have some serious initial pain, which far exceeded the "moderate" pain described on his web site. However, after about 2 weeks I was almost pain free and the healing went well. After about 10 weeks, I was able to have "light" sex with my wife.
The implant was very noticeable to the touch, but it did look really well. And I finally felt comfortable using public urinals, etc. I really loved my new penis.
And then, about 3 months ago, having had normal sex with my wife (as usual), my penis was sore all night and the next day. I started to feel sick and, in during the following night, I had a temparature of 104 degrees. My penis, scrotum, and pubic mound hurt like hell and everything swell. I wrote to Dr. Elist, who told me to go to my GP and have him prescribe very strong antibiotics. Of course, he examened me thoroughly and, not knowing what that was in my penis, questioned whether this was a good thing to have. It took 3 full weeks for the swelling to go down.
During this time, and afterwards, my local GP examined me and he explained that the material in my penis had become loose an caused microscopically small injuries, which, in turn, caused the infection.
I have contacted Dr. Elist several times after this, but he only asked for pictures and once I had sent them, he would not write back to me.
Can any of you give me any advise? My penis is currently causing tolerable pain, but it is certainly deformed, becuase the implant seems to have dislocated and my penis appearm much wider now (not nice!). I might be able to lend some money for another flight to LA, but I certainly cannot pay for another surgery to have the implant removed by Dr. Elist. I am still paying for the first surgery. Is he ethically or legally required to remove it free of charge? What will happen to my penis? Will it be all messed up? I am really frightened.
Also, I have not had sex with my wife since (because I can't) and this can't be going on forever. There seems to be no healing on its own.
I would appreciate any advise any you lads could give me. Thanks!
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Post by Skeptical One on Jul 9, 2011 18:13:11 GMT -5
Hi folks, please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Patrick, I am from Ireland, and I had surgery with Dr. Elist in January of 2010 (penile implant). I have taken out a huge loan to travel to the US, stay at a hotel, and have the surgery done. It will be onother 3 years before my loan is paid off! Initially, I was very happy with Dr. Elist's implant. I did have some serious initial pain, which far exceeded the "moderate" pain described on his web site. However, after about 2 weeks I was almost pain free and the healing went well. After about 10 weeks, I was able to have "light" sex with my wife. The implant was very noticeable to the touch, but it did look really well. And I finally felt comfortable using public urinals, etc. I really loved my new penis. And then, about 3 months ago, having had normal sex with my wife (as usual), my penis was sore all night and the next day. I started to feel sick and, in during the following night, I had a temparature of 104 degrees. My penis, scrotum, and pubic mound hurt like hell and everything swell. I wrote to Dr. Elist, who told me to go to my GP and have him prescribe very strong antibiotics. Of course, he examened me thoroughly and, not knowing what that was in my penis, questioned whether this was a good thing to have. It took 3 full weeks for the swelling to go down. During this time, and afterwards, my local GP examined me and he explained that the material in my penis had become loose an caused microscopically small injuries, which, in turn, caused the infection. I have contacted Dr. Elist several times after this, but he only asked for pictures and once I had sent them, he would not write back to me. Can any of you give me any advise? My penis is currently causing tolerable pain, but it is certainly deformed, becuase the implant seems to have dislocated and my penis appearm much wider now (not nice!). I might be able to lend some money for another flight to LA, but I certainly cannot pay for another surgery to have the implant removed by Dr. Elist. I am still paying for the first surgery. Is he ethically or legally required to remove it free of charge? What will happen to my penis? Will it be all messed up? I am really frightened. Also, I have not had sex with my wife since (because I can't) and this can't be going on forever. There seems to be no healing on its own. I would appreciate any advise any you lads could give me. Thanks! Truly sorry to hear about your situation but there is some hope. Have you finished your course of antibiotics? There is a chance you can mitigate any immediate effects from an infection. I would recommend its removal since, if it is indeed causing problems, it is probable that it will continue to create problems. In my opinion, he should absolutely remove it for free, especially if the implant has dislocated from its intended position. I'm quite surprised he has not written back to you, you may want to consider calling him and having him advise you over the phone. I also advise that you post your story/info over at the new forum found at www.phalloboards.org - This forum has migrated over to the new site, so you may not get a lot of feedback here (since it is quiet around here). This forum will remain open so people can review all the available info, but it is recommended to resume the dialog at the new forum. Hope to see you there, and hope everything works out! -S.O.
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