If one can draw an accurate conclusion about a person based solely on e-mail correspondence, I'd have to say that Dr Casavantes is a gentleman and appears genuinely conscientious about the treatments he provides. There's A LOT to be said about a doctor who will take time to sufficiently answer a patients questions. Idm
Post by gsxr7501941 on Dec 22, 2010 17:57:38 GMT -5
Here is one of the before and after pics that the Dr's office sent. I have been communicating with them via email, and am trying to get them to get me in touch with one of their american patients. If i can get a name, at least you could find out if its a real person...google does wonders to find people. They also will pick you up at San Diego Int airport, and take you across the border and then bring you back after its done....
Post by Skeptical One on Dec 22, 2010 18:10:37 GMT -5
gsxr thanks for the uploads!
The first picture was a guy who appeared to sport a nice girth for what seemed to be a flaccid penis. I wish there were more pictures (from any procedure) that shows a truly "small" (not necessarily micro) penis being transformed to an average or bigger-than-average unit.
The second photo had some notable contour issues but I suspect that could be corrected over time.
I do like that PMMA is in fact permanent but it still remains that we don't know the long-term effects, plus large volumes may induce an immune response (maybe not for everyone, but you wont know it until you undergo the procedure).
Post by Skeptical One on Dec 22, 2010 18:13:20 GMT -5
Speaking of "larger volumes of PMMA inducing an immune response," I started to think about buttock augmentation. When ladies (and even men presumably) get their buttocks enlarged, they require much more PMMA to make a noticeable and significant change in butt size, considerably more than the amount needed to get an average penis to 8" in girth.
Granted, the penis is a bit more complex than the buttocks, but can anyone chime in on why there has been little to no info on buttock rejection/immune response from PMMA? I only bring it up because of the volume/amount of PMMA involved.
It just looks too wierd to me.. dont look natural. this may be deleted but what im about to say is coming from a kind place because im a kind person. GUYS, really, really think about any of this before you do it. I been doing PE for 8 months now and i just measured today and i can finally say that I've gained 2 inches in flacid length, and 1 inch erect lenghth, and 1/2 inch in girth. so now im 5 inches flacid, 6 inches erect and 5 1/2 inch in girth. i kept quiet on the subject because this is a penis surgery site. but after seeing these photos i thought i should share because that penis looks sooo wierd after the PMMA injection, and make you think twice. i actually think it looked better before. i know you may want to get this because its the most cost efficiant and less work but make sure its done with caution. im still not weeding out the option of enlargement surgery for myself i just want you guys to know natural enlargement can be done. yes it took me 8 months just to get a inch erect. but its cost me no more than $200 and i have a healthy looking bigger penis. between thunders and MOS i picked up tons of "FREE" info without even having to register. I just wanted to share this with you guys because i was so excited at the moment of truth wen i measured because i promised myself i wouldnt measure until 8 months because i would of got discouraged and stopped is i saw little gains. ITS POSSIBLE. sorry i went completly off topic, just want everyone to have some perspective. (back to topic) this procedure looks ok but unatural. maybe because of the short length. if im able to hit 7 inches erect i will try and have this girth procedure but would only want a small amount of it so it wont look too unnatural. @ gsxr7501941, do you know if you can continue penis stretch or hanging exercises after the injections?
Post by gsxr7501941 on Dec 22, 2010 20:59:17 GMT -5
From what I can gather you need to hang or stretch afterwords so the stuff settles around the shaft otherwise it gets all bunched up but I am not sure. There is a ton of info on buttocks augmentation on makemeheal.com, some good and some bad. With the new PMMA there doesnt seem to be any issues. Apparently it itches for a while, and there is an immunoresponse that settles down after a while. They are getting 150cc or more in each butt cheek, and i think you get 10 cc for the penis. I am unsure on the total amount, am waiting to hear back from the doc..here is a link for someone who had buttock augmentation
I'm going to take one of my moments and soap box, so please bear w/me all- First, Im surprised I'm still here-guess I'll hang out thru christmas break!
I just want to say w/out boring you w/details, that I've struggled w/insecurities and unhealthy behaviors as a child and young man...took a lot of fixing emotionally and physically so I may have a little different perspective on some of this stuff than others here...not better necessarily, definitely not superior, but different.
I understand where new1 is coming from...his sentiments are expressed w/the best of intentions I'm sure.( You're ok where you're @ new1 btw). I know we're strangers discussing intimate things but I think the his advice is quite valid. I'm not saying don't have surgery (I did), but if there were 1 thing I wish I could convey to all of you whether you have 3" or 13, is learn to appreciate your whole worth. (I don't mean to go Oprah/DrPhil on you)!
On these forum we see the full spectrum of players, those who are "average" but want more, those who have enough but want more, those who like myself may, for whatever reason have had Struggles w/body image, those who've had surgeries go right...others not.
I read an interesting comment posted by stalemango recently which I appreciated very much, he said (I'm paraphrasing), that the big dick thing is good and all, but in some ways its not as great as he had imagined and this is something that he wouldn't have EVER believed w/out having lived through the experience. (SM, I hope I represented your statement accurately enough-feel free to correct me if I got you wrong), but for me, this was one of the most significant and profound comments I ever read on a pe thread!
Obviously We're all here basically for the same reason, but it important to keep perspective and understand that so much is relative. I had a smallish dick, now its bigger, bigger's better but they'll always be someone bigger than me and I'll always be bigger than someone else..
I believe we can make "improvements" and become the best we can be In a manner that's safe/healthy, I'm all for it! but perhaps the irony here is that once you acquire "a bigger dick"...THE DICK as an "ISSUE" , becomes pretty small.
This pe thing brings us all together for sure and hopefully this forum will succeed where others have failed; and it will truly serve as a source of quality information, where men can visit to learn and choose intelligently.
FINALLY, (and thanks for your patience in reading this)- As someone who's been to hell and back, I feel I've earned the right to pass on some brotherly advice in the spirit of charity...I warn that in the zeal to acquire a bigger penis, its easy to allow IT to start doing the thinking for you-dont let that happen!
Post by gsxr7501941 on Dec 23, 2010 16:06:07 GMT -5
I just heard back from the Clinic. They emailed some of their recent patients to see if anyone will be willing to talk with me. Hopefully they will, I would definately want to talk to two or three patients to see what they think before making a decision.
Post by gsxr7501941 on Dec 23, 2010 16:08:40 GMT -5
O yeah i forgot to ask, whoever was emailing the guy from the blog, i think his name was fred, if you are still emailing him would you ask him when he will post new pictures? Thanks, I am interested to see after his latest procedure.
@ gsxr7501941_ thanks for the link.... it helped me out
idm_very powerful post man. I also love this site very much and hope it get just as much traffic as the others. if i could post it on my facebook wall i would but i dont think it would go over so well..lol I know i have enugh size right now but for the fun of it i want to see if i can add another inch:D what i got is nothing compared to others with 3 inch gains. it get addictive once you see that new size.
yardstick11_ sorry for the lengh lost man...your stronger than me because i think i would of shot up the entire doctors office..lol.. jk.... but seriously how long have you been working at pe and how often? I actually just started with wieght becuase it seemed as if my gains have slowed down. i use a homemade hanger i made from instructions from thunders. i will find the link and post it here if your interested. and right now only using a 4 pound wieght so my penis can get used to it. But for the one inch gain erect and half inch girth in 8 months, i used a combination. A cheap $99 stretcher, bathmate penis pump, cock ring and wet jelqs. (MY routine) some of this i found on MOS.. here it goes Caution- these are very time consuming
FOR LENGHTH ROUTINE Stretch 1.5 hours take it off and do 500 wet jelqs -REPEAT THIS ROTATION 3 MORE TIMES( this takes about 6 hours)
GIRTH ROUTINE get into your pump of choice (i used the bathmate) pump for 45 min-hour.
After all my stretching and pumping was done i would put my stretched pumped penis in a rubber cock ring for about 4 hours. I did that so all the work i did would work itself. that helped me gain my flacid length FAST> thats the first to come before erect. I did this 6 days a week from april 22-dec. 22 If you want to start this routine i would say do only half time i did 3 hours and work your way up. thats how i did it.
any questions on anything please let me know. i wud love to help.
Post by Skeptical One on Dec 23, 2010 18:34:00 GMT -5
@ yardstick & new1,
Time is definitely a challenge when committing to manual PE exercise regimens. They require a lot of patience, dedication, and time. Time seems to be the only factor that varies between people who seriously undertake PE exercise.
During the off-days of this holiday season I will be busy with family and parties, but I will also have some free time to contemplate how I want to begin my new year. I really do look forward to stretching and pumping. But due to my starting size, and my desired goals, I'm not sure manual PE exercising alone can be a cure-all for me (though one never knows for sure). As of now FFT or PMMA are my leading candidates after a year or two of manual PE exercising (unless of course, by miracle I obtain at least 1.5"-2" in erect girth first).
I will continue to run and maintain this site because there will always be a portion of us who will ultimately go under the knife...and due to the taboo nature of this topic, so few resources are available to guide them to an informed decision.
Post by envisionmore on Dec 24, 2010 2:40:15 GMT -5
My last email from Fred was a week or so ago. He said he is an attorney and is very busy with the holidays approaching. He has not had time to post the new pics but would try to soon. He did say he was very happy with the new results.
Have tried manual PE myself wet Jelks 6 days a week for over three months for 30 miins per session, but unfortunately didnt experence any erect gains perhaps flacid but never checked as was only concentrating on erect gains.
Have been thinking of having either FFT with Dr Viel or PMMA late this coming year primarily for girth and was thinking of doing stretching in the months prior to any surgical procedure i opt for.
After IDM posted about how it was a good idea to strecth prior to any procedure i have been looking at ADS and bathmates.
Was really excited when reading your thread. If i could gain 0.5 girth erect would be well pleased.
New1inch could you please let me know what type of ADS you used and were you bought it from along with the bathmate.
Not too sure about the pills though what do you think are they really necessary.
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