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Post by stalemango on Nov 20, 2010 15:02:53 GMT -5
Can those of you with wives or a good understanding of the female vagina please inform me how sensitive a vagina is? For example, if I insert two fingers held tightly together into a vagina, can the woman tell where one finger ends and the next begins, or do the two fingers feel like one object?
I have Dr. Elist's implant and the right side is seamless. However, I can easily feel the ridge on the left side. I have had sex with four women since surgery, but only two jerked my penis while I was erect. Neither of them noticed.
Dr. Elist saids the capsule forming will make the ridges less apparent, but I have not found that to be accurate in my case. The four partners I've had sex with multiple times haven't said anything about my penis feeling 'different', but that doesn't mean they haven't noticed.
I thought maybe they weren't feeling the ridge on the left because I've been wearing a condom, but when I had sex without a condom, the woman didn't say anything felt weird or different.
Further, can a vagina feel that a penis with the implant is harder, or do they actually like that anyway, so it's not an issue? There is one woman I can go to, tell her everything and experiment with, but I can't bring myself to tell her I have an implant because she loves how thick it is and always makes great comments about it.
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Post by donjuannabe on Nov 20, 2010 15:44:22 GMT -5
Well, I have been told by a past girlfriend that it (penetration) feels like "pleasant pressure". Another girl I was with would ask me how many fingers I was using when fingering her. I would tell her (usually two) and she would ask for another. So in my opinion and experience the vagina isn't the most sensitive instrument to detect things accurately. But of course I haven't been with a lot of women so mileage may vary.
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Post by stalemango on Nov 20, 2010 17:27:23 GMT -5
Thanks for answering, donjuannabe. I was dead set against dildoing my butt to find out. By the way, happy belated.
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Post by Skeptical One on Nov 20, 2010 19:34:58 GMT -5
I sport the skinniest non-micro girth here (I bet), so I dread the "is it in yet?" effect.
My understanding (which is very limited) is that vaginas surface anatomy is more sensitive than the internal anatomy, and that the internal anatomy obtains pleasure via pressure (like donjuannabe suggested). This is probably why girth is more important than length when trying to make her orgasm via penetration.
Maybe we need to get one female member on this board who is freaky enough to answer our questions haha! Then again, I'm not so sure I want her to confirm any of our anxieties either!!
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Post by mustang2020 on Nov 21, 2010 1:04:16 GMT -5
My implant right ridges is also almost gone, but the left side is not. I heard the same from another implant patient. Must be the Dr. is right handed if I remember correctly and hence he favours right hand and he does a better job there.
I had three different ladies, and only one noticed because I was flaccid at the time and she only felt the ridges right behind the glans.
the other two ladies were fine and noticed nothing and enjoyed the girth.
I think the vagina is sensitive in the first two inches then it gets less sensitive. As you know, the G spot needs a lot of pressure to get an orgasm. So, I guess most women will not feel the ridges on your left side while you are inside them unless they feel it outside while flaccid....
How's the ridges right around the glans when flaccid and when erect in your case?
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Post by donjuannabe on Nov 21, 2010 12:08:51 GMT -5
Thanks for answering, donjuannabe. I was dead set against dildoing my butt to find out. By the way, happy belated. Lol. Thanks.
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Post by stalemango on Nov 22, 2010 2:26:58 GMT -5
Maybe we need to get one female member on this board who is freaky enough to answer our questions haha! Then again, I'm not so sure I want her to confirm any of our anxieties either!! Tell me about it. Sometimes hearing the truth makes me regret what I even asked. I was with a woman yesterday and she was moaning a lot and sounded as if she was really getting off. Afterward, I asked her if she climaxed and she said she didn't. Not only do I feel like a dud, but now I'm just so confused. I feel like what the heck do I have to do. There have been some women who have came seconds after insertion, but others who I have sex with for a while who don't. I'm having difficulty finding the line of when sex is long enough for her to get hers and when it's not too long that one or both of you feel sore. How's the ridges right around the glans when flaccid and when erect in your case? When I'm flaccid, the glans/shaft transition is easily noticed. I'm not fooling anyone with my flaccid penis. When I'm erect, though, I'm good to go. I popped a V pill as I was getting ready and while I was in the shower, I had difficulty pulling the skin back to wash myself because I was so hard. The ridge at the glans literally disappears when I'm erect. The woman I was with didn't notice anything as she stroked my penis and during our romp without a condom. As usual, she did mention how much she liked my penis. She really knows how to stroke a guy's ego.
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Post by stalemango on Nov 22, 2010 10:42:38 GMT -5
In line with the thread topic, can women feel a 1/4" or 1/2" more or less in girth?
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Post by donjuannabe on Nov 22, 2010 17:51:58 GMT -5
stalemango, Don't feel like a dud. Some women go their entire lives without having an orgasm. I took a sex ed course in college and I learned that women not having orgasms is very, very common. Most of the time it is because they haven't learned how. Us guys learn how pretty damn quick, but it isn't the same with some women. Sometimes it is due to how the woman was raised, if her parents (typically mom) taught her that sex or masturbation was a naughty thing while she was growing up, chances are she never felt comfortable learning about her own body.
Our professor (who was brilliant and female) said that most women are turned off by their own genetals and are unfamiliar with them. Of course this doesn't apply to all women, but our professor made it a point to note that women are just as insecure about their own anatomy and abilities as guys are. Judging by the reaction and body language in the class among the females I felt this information to hit home in a very true way.
So I wouldn't sweat it, man. The few chicks I've been with were really the most happy with things like kissing, hugging, cuddling, and being there for them. Yeah, they loved to get banged too, but it seems they like intimacy above penetration.
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Post by Skeptical One on Nov 22, 2010 22:07:18 GMT -5
Donjuannabe is spot on! Women not achieving orgasm sometimes has nothing to do with our performances. Sex-drive, libido, and even insecurities may lead to their inability (or unlikelihood) of achieving orgasm.
With the girth you're sporting, I suspect size alone isn't an issue if you are dealing with a woman who is having issues orgasming. What you may want to try is:
1) Oral stimulation. Some women report having a much easier time achieving climax via oral pleasure versus penetration.
2) General foreplay. Coupled with oral stimulation...biting, kissing, and licking other sensitive parts of her body while delaying intercourse that much longer helps build "her up" for an easier-to-achieve climax.
2) Ask her what position she prefers the most. Giving her the option to mount you in the way she knows best will allow her to wiggle her hips and vagina around in ways that will best allow her to orgasm.
3) Use an aphrodisiac. Chocolate is cited by many, though I find liquor to be quicker lol.
4) Build suspense. This could be anything that "leads" up to the suspense of sex - like a romantic dinner or perhaps a sensual drama.
5) Anytime prior to sex, compliment her on a non-physical feature...be it her scent or what she is wearing, and the more genuine your compliment seems, the more confidence you build into her libido.
I'm no Sex-Doctor but I've read tons of sex articles, and all of these suggestions were borrowed by publications I've read.
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And in line with this thread and in continuation with stalemango's question- I am VERY curious to know how much girth change is actually noticed by the "average-experienced female?"
I suspect she'll notice an inch more in girth but what measurement is the very least required for her to not only sense the change but to obtain pleasure from it? Hmm...
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Post by mustang2020 on Nov 23, 2010 1:49:30 GMT -5
I theorize that most women will not feel girth changes if they are in the fraction of an inch. Of course if they measure it, then they will feel it. Most, if not all, women are into sex for the emotional part of it. Men, yes all healthy men, are in sex mostly for the physical part of it. So, perceptions are totally at odds here. I went out with a woman last year for a short while, I gave up trying to make her come after three sessions . Later on, she admitted to me that "No One" has ever been able to make her come..
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Post by donjuannabe on Nov 23, 2010 11:37:07 GMT -5
I also wanted to share with you guys the book we used in my sex ed class. I hope you don't mind me posting this, but I think you will all enjoy this book. It is called "The guide to getting it on" www.amazon.com/Guide-Getting-Paul-Joannides/dp/1885535333/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1290529898&sr=8-1I liked and learned so much from this book that I didn't sell it back to the book store, and I still read it to this day. It covers EVERYTHING and is actually really fun to read. There is even a section about guys and gals insecurities about their bodies.
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Post by honested on Nov 23, 2010 15:17:51 GMT -5
This is sooo true.
All women are different.
Surely, girth is a good thing and a lot of women appreciate it.
More than anything else though, sex for women is between the ears.
No matter how big your dick is, a woman is never going to get off unless she is very attracted to you, and is sufficiently wet and aroused before you fuck her.
Above all else, women are attracted to confidence.
For some women, even when the attraction is there, it's trust that keeps them from being able to have an orgasm.
No question sex is a combination of physical, emotional, and mental factors.
I've seen my girlfriend have orgasms in her sleep, with hardly any stimulation at all. The mind is a powerful thing.
In terms of physical stimulation, the clitoris is 1000 times more sensitive than anything else.
When I have sex with my girlfriend, her orgasms or always clitoral. The feeling of having me inside of her is what arouses her and fuels her orgasm emotionally and mentally. The majority of our time having sex is spent with me all the way inside of her and moving just slightly in and out and side to side, with me pubic bone pressed against her moving up and down and in circles to stimulate it.
This is easiest and most enjoyable for the both of us when she is on top.
I am 5.3 x 4.75 and no more, and she has an orgasm almost every time we have sex.
Still, it could be better.
The last girlfriend I had, sex was insane. She would get on top of me and get off at least twice, and then I would stimulate her g-spot until with my hand until she had these full body orgasms the made almost every muscle in her contract and release. It was the best feeling sexually I've ever had.
This was because she was really strongly attracted to me and deeply in love with me.
What I've found is that deep physical attraction, trust, and a desire to be emotionally close to a man is what drives a woman sexually.
Incorporated in that for some women is a big dick, but confidence is much more important than that.
Mango you have PLENTY of dick to satisfy any woman. Straight up. Know exactly who you are, a build your sexually abilities to the best you can. Have as much confidence as you can, and even when you are not confident sexually, never show it. After that, some women are going to want you, and some are not. You have to accept that.
If there is one you truly care about and cant get off, maintain your confidence as much as you possibly can. Build as much trust as you can. NEVER force expectations.
When you are with a woman sexually, try not to show her how conscious you are of how you are making her feel. If she sees this and feels like you are watching her, she will have trouble relaxing and opening up sexually. This is not to say you should not pay attention to her body. Just dont make her feel like she HAS to come.
There are a million books out there that offer different philosophies on seducing women.
I would highly suggest you take the focus off of your dick and into the upstairs department.
Easier said than done, I know.
Sorry for writing a novel. I am also sorry if many of you know all of this stuff already. Finally, sorry for typos. I am too lazy to go back and edit all of this.
All I know is that having a big dick is a good thing, but not everything. I know from many a woman that the best sex they have ever had was not from the biggest dick they have ever had.
I am on the lower side of average and I have had 3 beautiful girlfriends. The first one I had never had orgasms, and it was not until after that I found out it was a trust issue. The second was so deeply attracted to me and in love with me it was insane, and it made sex a blast. I was in total control and could get her off whenever I wanted to. My current girlfriend sex is ok, but I brought the expectations from my last girlfriend into this relationship, and anything short seems like its just not enough.
Sex could have been better if I had more confidence. If i had a bigger dick, I would have more confidence. It's a vicious cycle. I do believe in my heart and mind though, that without a doubt confidence is the sexiest shirt you can wear. You have got to find a way to be as confident as you can. A big dick helps, but you can do it without it.
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Post by honested on Nov 23, 2010 15:30:09 GMT -5
To add to what I said,
The vagina is MOST sensative when a women is extremely aroused. It's getting her there that is the hardest thing. If a woman is really deeply attracted to you and trusts you sexually, and trusts your ability to get her off, you could probably make her cum with your pinky. I've never been able to make a woman feel this way for me on purpose. It just happened. It happened because I didn't care much what she thought of me. It wasn't pretend or a trick, I just had confidence around her because I was somewhat indifferent to her and knew right away she was really in to me. Making a woman that you are actually in love with and care deeply what she thinks about become deeply attracted to you, is a whole other challenge.
Also, I mentioned that I had 3 girlfriends. I have had much more than 3, but only 3 that I have had long term sexual relationships with, lasting for more than 3 years.
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Post by Skeptical One on Nov 23, 2010 15:42:17 GMT -5
donjuan, while that link is technically against forum rules, I don't mind it in this instance.
I think its imperative us guys see that the art of pleasing a woman is beyond the size of our phallus. However, as a Honested suggested, our confidence is our sex appeal to women, and a larger penis usually (and unfortunately) aids in building that confidence.
For a guy like me, its a little bit trickier. I'm relieved that I can project some degree of confidence, but I suppose its my charm and intelligence that compensates for my phallic's shortcomings.
The irony is, though, that I've learned how to be a better oral stimulator, foreplay initiator, and romantic due to my lack of size. It's "being small" that has helped developed all other facets of pleasure-giving. But even with all of this, I still feel like I am not providing a "complete" offering to a woman. I feel that with a bigger size I would become a significantly better lover. At least in my situation, I feel this sentiment to be valid.
I should also mention that erection quality may be just as, if not more important than sheer girth change in how a woman feels you (depending on your starting size of course). An example would be a guy with a 4.5" girth penis with a ROCK-HARD erection may be more stimulating than a man with a 5" girth with modest-to-poor erection quality. EQ must be taken into account!
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