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Post by eqstudent on Jun 22, 2011 12:13:50 GMT -5
...I thought, do the ones with B-cups feel like me about my 5.5"? Then I realized there is one notable difference: FIT. So when you're looking to bond, it is important that the pieces of the puzzle fit together... I think fit is only an issue if you are either extremely small or extremely large. Try this mental exercise. Take all the women you have slept with and rank them strictly based on the size and fit of their vagina. Then add response (moaning and groaning) and enthusiasm as attributes and redo your rankings? Once you realize that women have another 6 to 10 attributes that they rank very high it is clear why penis size (as long as it is within the broad average range) is not very important to them. Heck, my GF tells me all the time that she cums just from the way I say her name during sex.
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Post by hunkchunk on Jun 22, 2011 15:01:19 GMT -5
That's great but I'm needing to wrestle a lady away from girth kings, at least from what I've gathered from past insinuations. I won't be competing just in that department but don't want to get disqualified off the bat just like an underage patron in a bar.
What I'd really appreciate is knowing what problems come from getting a first session of 20% knowing that I'll be back in September for a second session mostly for corrective purposes? Does anyone here know who got the concentrated stuff the first time, and what issues that might have caused?
Thanks for your support and advice.
HC
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Post by hunkchunk on Jun 22, 2011 15:06:23 GMT -5
regtam25I don't think that length has anything to do with PMMA girth gains. The girth will depend on the concentration of PMMA you receive, as well as the number of CCs injected. The gains will be a factor of how much girth you have now, and the percentage increase that the injections will afford you ought to be inversely proportional to your current girth. The less girth the higher percentage increase, the more girth the smaller percentage increase. This is of course assuming indentical collagen growth response for an indentical quantity of injected PMMA. Length only means more or less CCs which would be distributed the same on the entire shaft surface, with possibly lesser concentration near the glans and possibly higher concentration at the base. FWIW. HC
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Post by eqstudent on Jun 22, 2011 15:07:40 GMT -5
hunkchunkgood luck in your wrestling match, however don't you ever forget there are a few hundred million more where she came from. Best to ask your pmma concentration question on the big pmma thread or even better ask the doctor who will do the procedure. good luck!
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Post by sizemic on Jun 22, 2011 15:10:40 GMT -5
That's great but I'm needing to wrestle a lady away from girth kings, at least from what I've gathered from past insinuations. I won't be competing just in that department but don't want to get disqualified off the bat just like an underage patron in a bar. What I'd really appreciate is knowing what problems come from getting a first session of 20% knowing that I'll be back in September for a second session mostly for corrective purposes? Does anyone here know who got the concentrated stuff the first time, and what issues that might have caused? Thanks for your support and advice. HC Dude I think I had 20% for the bulk of my first session. I didn't ask for the specifics... But as Dr. C was asking his assistant for refills of the stuff he normally would stop and say "20"... use it all then again he would ask for "20" and then towards the end of the session he started asking for "10" and so on... this led me to think that I had 20% for the bulk of my session. I am not 100% sure though.
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Post by hunkchunk on Jun 22, 2011 15:32:12 GMT -5
sizemicThanks a whole lot for your testimonial, your results were quite amazing. I wonder if he did that because of your consequent length implying that even if second or third session corrections were needed the aesthetic result wouldn't be too "thick" visually to end with a perfect result? Looks pretty close to that. eqstudentYou're right and I do need to keep that in perspective. This is the second time in my life I have felt such a strong bond so it's harder to walk away, I know 'cause I've tried. Not hoping to change her but wanting to at least give it a shot before whatever happens does or doesn't. I do appreciate your advice and it is true, something to be remembered. A friend told me a Jewish joke, about a Rabbi giving advice: Never run after a woman or a bus. Another one will come along soon. HC
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Post by eqstudent on Jun 22, 2011 15:43:22 GMT -5
hunkchunk If she is "the one" then fight as hard as you can. I sincerly hope that you attain your goals with PMMA.
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Post by hunkchunk on Jun 22, 2011 18:44:54 GMT -5
eqstudentThanks for your encouragement. She may very well be the one, she also is surprised by the strength of our bond. We'll be taking a road trip to Italy so I need to be in "shape". The last thing I want to think about is my little guy down there. I never really found him all that small (since I broke through my early inhibitions) but realize that in the States women are bombarded with adult films, peer pressure and just big dick culture and some, like her, took to practicing this fascination. She's a brilliant, elegant and charming as they get, only her teens and early college years got her into an action zone which is what she calls "unbridled promiscuity" which she "enjoys from time to time". I think she 'just might' be ready to move on to a more nurturing relationship but don't want her missing or yearning too much. That's why I'll fight first in Tijuana seeing what girth 20% PMMA will bring in the first pass, returning for a topping up in September. What really has me a bit worried, though less than doing nothing, is that my glans is quite diminutive already so I'd really hope to find a way to get it boosted, even if it only lasts a few weeks... I don't have my hopes up but I've got to give it my best swing. HC
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Post by mustang2020 on Jun 22, 2011 23:53:33 GMT -5
IT sounds like she really likes you so I can't imagine that she will dump you if your penis does not measure up to her previous experiences. I'd say go for it and have fun and use your talent in bed and later on when you get pmma it will be a good surprise for her.
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Post by hunkchunk on Jun 23, 2011 1:08:22 GMT -5
Haha, Mustang202...
It's funny how when it is about you one doesn't think at all the same way. I guess it is due to the strength of our bond that it brings me to reflect on myself more and confronts me with buried insecurities. It has had me reassess my career, my home life, my friends and activities and my health and physical condition as well as my psychological dispositions: total questioning. PE is only one part of this process brought on by what I can only term as an event. So I guess it is mainly a focus of this self-reflective questioning that I figure such a thing might happen.
Given she's overseas it won't be until the PMMA has settled (4 to 5 weeks after injection) that we'll be meeting up, and I'm glad it will be after rather than before. Anyone else who knew me before I might one day 'encounter' again I would be compelled to tell that it was thanks to gonadotropin that rebooted my hormones rather than reveal I resorted to PE surgery. And this isn't because if any shame about aesthetic or, in this case, quite practical surgery, but because I tend to identify closely with that part of my anatomy and don't think I can readily accept people looking at it as a store bought accessory...
But I digress and wander off topic. So I will be asking for 5.5" girth which is equal girth to length (currently at original 5.5" BPEL), which might be the golden ratio for maximum aesthetic gains? That's why I was seeking a shortcut to length not so much to be longer but because with more length I could more easily reach thicker aesthetic results... My ideal has shifted since first joining here. If at all possible I'd hope to achieve 6+ length and have a slightly tapered shape with and enhanced glans. It would be 5.5" at the tip, 6" mid-shaft and 7" towards the base. That way even if by some magical formula or extension miracle I could gain further length the gains would be mostly aesthetic requiring only a bit of evening out in a future PMMA session.
HC
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Post by Skeptical One on Jun 23, 2011 6:10:29 GMT -5
This all makes sense but I am puzzled by the dimensions which are offered for sale on a pump website, shown here in girth diameters: Penis Outside (Circumference) 4 3/4" 5 1/2" 6 1/4" 7" 7 7/8" 8 5/8" 9 3/4" 10 1/4" 11 3/4" 13 3/8" 14 1/4" 15 3/4" 17 1/4" 18 3/4" 20 1/4" 21 3/4" 24" 25 1/4" Now those are some wild girth measurements seen at their original posting page here: What size circumference?Is this science fiction or are there enough guys seeking enhancement at these sizes, or is the vendor feeding our insecurities to make us want to buy a PE product? HC Thanks to gprent @ TP, here is a more reasonable chart: Base Girth____Cylinder Diameter 3.50 to 4.50* 1.50 4.75 to 5.25* 1.75 5.50 to 6.00* 2.00 6.25 to 6.75* 2.25 7.00 to 7.50* 2.50 7.75 to 8.25* 2.75
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Post by messageman on Jun 23, 2011 10:20:48 GMT -5
messagemanthanks for clarifying your statements that I quoted. I apologize for misreading those statements and concluding that you had implied that at a 7" + girth some women had issues. Just to be clear you are stating that a 7" girth provides a better overall sexual experience for a woman than a 6" or 5" girth? Hi eqstudent Do I believe a 7-inch girth provides a better overall sexual experience than a 5 or 6-inch girth penis? That’s a very good question. My answer is: a) It definitely depends on the woman to some extent. Some women get really turned on by the sight of a monster girth….and love the feeling of feeling full… I know this from considerable experience. Other women don’t consider it such an attribute. That being said, I never had a woman turn me down for sex after seeing the size of my penis.… Also, because I am a rather physically large man (6, 1’), perhaps I attract the size queens… Maybe that’s why women appeared so underwhelmed when I was sporting my pre surgery, more than sufficient 6.3 inch (length) X 5 inch (girth penis). b) I admit that I am neurotic with regards to penis size; this obsession has plagued me since my teenage days. Perhaps this has skewed my perception of my experiences with these women. I know that after I was able to increase the size of my penis (almost 15 years ago) …my confidence and eq shyrocketed…I know this is one of the keys to my positive experiences. I truly believe though that a 6-inch girth would more favored by the majority of women than a 5-inch girth penis…. How about a 7-inch girth over a 6-inch girth? I would say that it’s probably dicier, but maybe. Some women may just run screaming while other women might think that they hit the motherload… Just my 2 cents…. Messageman
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Post by eqstudent on Jun 23, 2011 11:01:46 GMT -5
messagemanVery well said. I applaud your honesty, particularly in regards to how your penis perceptions may color your perception of sex with women. I will strive to be as honest with myself about my shortcomings as you seem to be about yours. I will disagree with you that 6” is better than 5” girth for women but as long as you are getting a very positive response with a 7” girth and I am getting a very positive response with a 4.75” girth our disagreement doesn’t really matter! ;D I am intrigued about getting the PMMA procedure to increase my girth to slightly above average to maybe ~ 5.25”
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Post by hunkchunk on Jun 23, 2011 16:22:26 GMT -5
eqstudent,
You'll be wanting to ask Dr C for a 10% solution if you only want to increase by 1/2". Otherwise at 20% not to mention 30% you'll be looking at more gains that you'd like. Regarding women's preferences, I've noticed that after dating women who have had kids, especially several, that they tend to be a bit "distended" and to require more girth, unless they are ready to dedicate themselves to rebuilding their vaginal walls by special exercises much like guys will shake and bake during PE, or unless they also resort to surgery such as the operations performed by Dr Marc Abecassis in Paris where he pretty much re-anchors their vaginal walls and regroups the muscles to make them tight again. So if you're dating a petite younger woman and Messageman is dating a more statuesque woman with kids you can bet that it won't be the same girth requirements.
HC
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Post by eqstudent on Jun 23, 2011 17:09:24 GMT -5
hunkchunkGiven that erection quality (EQ) is my primary reason for this journey I would have to understand the medium and long term potential impact to EQ before I sign up for this or any procedure. In all honesty Alloderm/Belloderm may be a better candidate for my particular situation at this point in time. I plan to do a significant amount of research over the next couple of months before I make any decision on undergoing a procedure.
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