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Post by mustang2020 on Jun 17, 2011 11:00:55 GMT -5
mustang2020So you're saying that regardless of your length to procure women maximum satisfaction the best target girth is 7" at the base, 6 .5" at the shaft and 5.5" at the glans? HC That has been my experience so far. Length of course is important but girth is more important for ME and the girls I go with. I used to have a straight shaft around 5" EG and it was fine. But now I like the tapered look and function. your experience WILL vary
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Post by mustang2020 on Jun 17, 2011 11:05:31 GMT -5
@mustang what is your length out of curiosity? your girth is absolutely MASSIVE I have a short penis now due to the implant. I used to be 6.25 EL, with the implant I lost about an inch and then I got back about .5 so EL was about 5.75". I would like a bit more length, but the girls always had good comments about the girth and seem to enjoy it a lot. I enjoyed it too when there was less painin my penis (I had a lot of pain behind the glans from implant)
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Post by mustang2020 on Jun 17, 2011 11:12:10 GMT -5
... I then saw her again and when we had sex, she kept saying how big it was and asking what did I do to it, while we were having sex. I never told her and she did not ask any more. Here is the thing: she would come 2-3 times now and I did not even work as hard as before... Did she say it was better because it was bigger or did she just pretend to come so you would get that thing out of her ...I went to those links that were posted up there, Most women lie about size... So women who are posting on women's message board are lying about size preferences to other women??? The reality is small number of women will like smaller, a small number will like larger, the vast majority will be very happy with average. Note that the women who posted that their guy was smaller in most cases said sex was great and was not trying to get rid of the guy! It is possible she was lying to me and pretending to come two to three times. But she was wet thru out the session and we would go for a long time, I have it on video. I assure you I am not trying to show off.. Those review are very misleading. Like I said, the best test is to have a good lover, increase his dick size a reasonable amount and then ask his woman how she likes it, and would she go back to his smaller penis size. Almost everyone who got pmma here had positive remarks from their women, yes?
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Post by skatezy777 on Jun 17, 2011 12:25:47 GMT -5
Hey Mustang,
Even when you were at 5.25 -- I assume NBPEL, correct? -- with that massive girth, did the women still seem to respond? Your girth is amazing, so I am just thinking that the length becomes less important with that amount of girth. Did you have positive experiences at 5.25 EL with that massive girth?
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Post by eqstudent on Jun 17, 2011 13:22:04 GMT -5
It is possible she was lying to me and pretending to come two to three times. But she was wet thru out the session and we would go for a long time, I have it on video. I assure you I am not trying to show off So, she did not say it was better because it was bigger? ...Almost everyone who got pmma here had positive remarks from their women, yes? No, see the quotes hoddle10 posted. Also if one has slept with 3 women at 5.5 EG and 2 have bled and 1 could only get it in 1/3 I don't consider that data positive. Look, I am not against PE, I do not agree with the false perception that one has to be massive in order to satisfy a woman. This perception seems to be re-enforced on PE sites, causing men to be even more insecure than they already are.
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Post by justabitmore on Jun 17, 2011 15:51:41 GMT -5
And I should note - I'm not accusing or suggesting any of our bigger members here of having dysmorphic issues, I'm simply saying that as a community we need to foster a more positive perspective on size... Completely agree. 6 inch girth is so rare and here we are carrying on about going way above that. I have posted my update blog and I am almost glad that I know it will reduce somewhat from now as the size it is now is border line taking the piss. I said I wanted 6.35 average I can safely say that 6 will do! @ sizemic good luck for your next one you seem to take to it well ! you are right you are unlikely to match first round results as you now are bigger so have more to cover but trust me 6 is BIG! so if you get a little over that then smile dude! I am looking at mine now and although its only 48 hours ago my 5.9-6.5 shaft is big and the 7.25 base is silly. I am glad it will reduce somewhat. I seem to remember you lost about 0.3-4 ? but then you got it back. seriously if I end up around 5.9 6.1 then the penis chapter of my life is closed !
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Post by hoddle10 on Jun 18, 2011 5:27:35 GMT -5
This survey was posted over at Thundersplace and is quite interesting. I like the girth question as they give women objects to choose from rather than ask for specific size in inches. We largelly agree that women aren't the best at guessing size, so a number in inches is usually pretty useless, but I think we can agree they know what size objects they'd want inserted into their vaginas. 64% said they'd like a girth the same as a D battery. These batteries range from 5.4"-5.7".
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Post by justabitmore on Jun 18, 2011 5:56:54 GMT -5
This survey was posted over at Thundersplace and is quite interesting. I like the girth question as they give women objects to choose from rather than ask for specific size in inches. We largelly agree that women aren't the best at guessing size, so a number in inches is usually pretty useless, but I think we can agree they know what size objects they'd want inserted into their vaginas. 64% said they'd like a girth the same as a D battery. These batteries range from 5.4"-5.7". and on penis visualizer the female consensus from memory is 5.8 but thats and average so some might have said 6 and some 5.5. And thats just them guessing what 5.8 is so the study you pulled out is more valid. But again it shows that anywhere from 5 -6 is the range so if you get there then you have a cock that matches someones ultimate desire! Keep that in mind guys. @ everyone Like it has been mentioned in this thread a penis enlargement forum is a great place to make yourself more insecure. Some people here will end up with 6.5 monster and maybe even 7 before you know it people using this forum will think thats what they should aim at and guys with 5.5 and 5.75 natural girth are sitting at home worrying and then taking unnecessary risks to match forum members. Go on penis visualizer and plug in 5.5 girth and see how high you are across various groups from Asians, Africans, Caucasians, adult films stars and all the various surveys available. you will be surprised how big your cock is. Plug in 6.5 and you beat some of the adult films stars apart from the true freaks.
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Post by hoddle10 on Jun 18, 2011 6:33:29 GMT -5
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Post by hunkchunk on Jun 18, 2011 6:48:04 GMT -5
You guys are right and I guess that we're not only starting out with a complex but maybe not helping it get better here. I arrived thinking I was pretty much average only to discover that my stats are subpar. You can say that this way at least I know what I've been up against. I thought it was only others in my family that were oversize but now realize it is myself who is undersize.
So now it appears that my enlargement dreams weren't to become a "Hunk Chunk" as my original name implies, but just maybe someday I can become an average Joe with maybe half of the men she's known quite a bit better than my wildest reach? This can get quite aggravating, if my last night's dream is any sign.
I was on a jumbo jet and the last two rows were filled with a bunch of gay guys dressed in business suits. One quite short fellow was standing on a seat in front of them naked. I wondered why but once in a while one of them would gaze towards him and make funny faces. After a while the short man turned left, revealing his 15" baby headed monster with 10" girth. I stood there appalled that such a "thing" could exist. So I do think that the PhalloBoards is taking its toll on my psyche, after all we're not about to become magically reborn as fertility gods on legs, launch platforms for gigantic rocketships. Fortunately most women find things more important in a guy. Still, I do remember that girl who dumped me for a black policeman, a boring idiot with nothing to say...
HC
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Post by Skeptical One on Jun 18, 2011 7:15:43 GMT -5
You guys are right and I guess that we're not only starting out with a complex but maybe not helping it get better here. I arrived thinking I was pretty much average only to discover that my stats are subpar. You can say that this way at least I know what I've been up against. I thought it was only others in my family that were oversize but now realize it is myself who is undersize. So now it appears that my enlargement dreams weren't to become a "Hunk Chunk" as my original name implies, but just maybe someday I can become an average Joe with maybe half of the men she's known quite a bit better than my wildest reach? This can get quite aggravating, if my last night's dream is any sign. I was on a jumbo jet and the last two rows were filled with a bunch of gay guys dressed in business suits. One quite short fellow was standing on a seat in front of them naked. I wondered why but once in a while one of them would gaze towards him and make funny faces. After a while the short man turned left, revealing his 15" baby headed monster with 10" girth. I stood there appalled that such a "thing" could exist. So I do think that the PhalloBoards is taking its toll on my psyche, after all we're not about to become magically reborn as fertility gods on legs, launch platforms for gigantic rocketships. Fortunately most women find things more important in a guy. Still, I do remember that girl who dumped me for a black policeman, a boring idiot with nothing to say... HC What plagues our psyche are our insecurities, plain & simple. PhalloBoards, Thundersplace, PEGym, etc, may remind us of these insecurities, and for some, perpetuate them. Though I would stop short of calling the forums themselves toxic... if anything, "male-perceived" social expectations, locker room paranoia, and a misconception of female preferences are what's truly toxic! My hope for this forum (as well as the newer PhalloBoards version 2.0) is to not only educate future visitors on all things phalloplasty, but to remind everyone on the necessity to keep a healthy perspective on size & goals. I know I can't impose or enforce such ideas here alone. I just have to hope that the collective wisdom of this community/fraternity can take that next step forward and develop an improved outlook on size. Daunting perhaps...otherwise, we risk turning our anatomy into vanity, something with untold consequences. I can't pretend that I'm not eager to be big. I just have to remind myself why I want to be, and be sure those reasons are healthy. -S.O.
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Post by eqstudent on Jun 18, 2011 15:50:13 GMT -5
... but I think we can agree they know what size objects they'd want inserted into their vaginas. 64% said they'd like a girth the same as a D battery. These batteries range from 5.4"-5.7". Great find hoddle! In the US D batteries are only 4.5 inches in girth, a quarter is 3 inches in girth, a raquetball is 2.25 inch in diameter/7 inches in girth. In that survey 70% of women said the ideal girth was 4.5 inches or less In all fairness I suspect that an object between a D battery and a raquetball might have changed the distribution!
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Post by hoddle10 on Jun 18, 2011 16:05:22 GMT -5
... but I think we can agree they know what size objects they'd want inserted into their vaginas. 64% said they'd like a girth the same as a D battery. These batteries range from 5.4"-5.7". Great find hoddle! In the US D batteries are only 4.5 inches in girth, a quarter is 3 inches in girth, a raquetball is 2.25 inch in diameter/7 inches in girth. In that survey 70% of women said the ideal girth was 4.5 inches or less To be fair they only had the choice of those objects, so really it just means that they prefer the idea of 4.5" to 7" which is understandable is 7" is huge and would scare the hell out of many women. Shane Diesel is 7" and I can understand why they wouldn't want that thing inside of them. All it really tells us is that most women dont want it too thick, it unfotunately doesn't mean the ideal girth is 4.5". But I still maintain that "ideal" is smaller than what many guys think. But "ideal" for women isn't what all of our members are looking for. Some just want to be the biggest and have that "alpha male" (as sizemic put it) feeling and whilst it isn't what I personally want, I fully understand why some guys might.
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Post by eqstudent on Jun 18, 2011 18:11:46 GMT -5
... But "ideal" for women isn't what all of our members are looking for. Some just want to be the biggest and have that "alpha male" (as sizemic put it) feeling and whilst it isn't what I personally want, I fully understand why some guys might. As long as that distinction is clearly made I have no issue with it. If someone wants to be bigger so they can feel like an alpha male, or bigger than other guys more power to them. My issue starts when those same guys start to suggest that one needs to have a massive unit in order to satisfy women when the evidence from women clearly state that is not the case. Falsely suggesting that men require a massive unit to satisfy most women just leads to more insecurity amongst the PE members, (as a group we seem to be highly insecure to begin with), and may cause members to make decisions (like going for a 7” or 7.5” girth) that may have disastrous long term consequences for those members interested in actually having sex with their unit.
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Post by messageman on Jun 19, 2011 6:01:57 GMT -5
Having had a penis circumference over the years that has ranged from about 5 inches to 7.5 inches, I think I am in a good position to add my 2 cents on this matter… I would like to preface though by saying that erection quality and overall confidence is more important than having a thick penis…Having a thick penis gave me the confidence which resulted in a stronger erection… That being said, With my original 5 inch (in girth) penis …If you read my accounts in “Messageman’s Journey”, I lacked self confidence, had poor erection quality, and had zero technique…I had no game at all and that was reflected in the underwhelming reaction I received with most of my partners…One of them even mentioned she “couldn’t feel me in her at all…Boy, did that crush me…. After the dermal surgery, I was a little over 7 inches in girth and the response was almost always positive…I probably slept with over 30 to 40 to women (from all ethnicities) and (the huge) girth was generally never a problem…On the contrary, more often than not, women loved it…I was in high demand…. As my length increased (from stretching and an ADS), length at times became an issue…with women pushing me back and requesting I don’t go so ‘deep’…I had loads of confidence and I believe this was also major factor …I could last longer and get hard on cue. A long, thick penis is also a visually stimulating thing for a woman… After a few years, my dermal graft shrunk down a bit to 6.25 inches (in girth)….This was a nice size to have and always was well received…Still, I always remembered what it was like to have that ‘ 7 inch’ monster girth…. So…. I stupidly got the Elist implant…The implant girth was ridiculous (over 7.5 inches) girth, but (and I swear on my life) women loved it…with proper lubrication (which was a must)… My penis retracted to a little over 6 inches in length (due to the implant)…but even with that, the 7.5 inch girth was visually stunning to these women and they and they all would talk about how “powerful” the feeling was…. After the damn implant basically exploded (2 years ago), I had it removed….The capsule of the implant remained and gave me an added half inch…leaving me with a 6.75 inch (base) girth….This is a great girth to have….Women usually don’t have an issue and it’s visually (and physically) stimulating In summary, for me, EQ and confidence is more important than girth…However, I do believe (from my experience) there are many women out there that can appreciate a penis with a girth from 6 inches to 7.5 inches…
Special note: This is just my experience. I would recommend anybody getting PMMA to incrementally get it over time, and to definitely stay 6.5 inches or under until you know that you are happy with that size. Especially if you are a young guy having sex with younger women…It’s much easier to get more PMMA than have it removed…
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