whats up everyone. im a convert thanks to messageman and mustang emphatically telling me of horror stories of another procedure. so with that said can i still do manual stretching with the pmma? and if so how soon after getting it can i resme? thank you all for the info ive gained.
Post by Skeptical One on Jun 4, 2011 16:52:56 GMT -5
You can probably start manual PE right after the procedure but you want to keep a few things in mind:
1. Any exercise or device used after the procedure should not ever interfere with the entry points until they are entirely healed and closed.
2. The first 24-72 hours your penis experiences bruising (the extent of which varies person to person), and may prevent you from assessing PI's. (PI = physiological indicators - a common term at Thundersplace which means our bodies/penises ability to signal to us when there has been too much strain put on it). Because your PI's are harder to assess with all the bruising going on, you're best bet is to apply a level of manual PE that you already know your penis can handle quite easily (i.e. mild traction, etc).
3. I'd recommend not returning to your full-blown manual PE regimen until your penis has reached the 6 week marker. I'm sure it could be done before 6 weeks, this is simply my own recommendation.
I think as a community we are only beginning to learn more about manual PE exercising and PMMA-filled penises. I know some on this forum strongly recommend/insist the use of a traction device post-procedure in order to help the PMMA settle out evenly and prevent a ring. I'd definitely scour ALL threads pertaining to PMMA, since there are a lot of good opinions/suggestions/observations.
I did not use a traction device post-procedure due to my circumstances (staying with relatives before & after). However this did not seem to effect the evenness or aesthetic of my penis. I plan to return to aggressive manual PE exercising at about 6 weeks.
I have tried a penis pump 2-3 times then I stopped using it (I have EG 6.75"and happy with it and I thought I might do some damage to my pmma).
But the thing what you cannot do is jelqing , because you are mainly going to push the pmma and the new collagen forward more than pushing and squeezing the blood in the CC forward .Thats my experience with the pmma, so dont do it you will not gain anything. Stretching you can do it without any problem.
its great you brought that "ballooning" (I tried to understand it I couldn't I have asked this in the other thread) can you please,explain it to me exactly how can you do it ? Somebody said it is like edging but without ejaculation , because I heard some success story in lengthening there is a german guy in PEgym forum (nickname is rammln) (( PEGym Forums > Success Forum > routine's / picture proof / picture comparison)) and it can also treat premature ejaculation.
Are you sure jelqing couldn't work? I was under the impression that the PMMA & collagen become "1 with the penis," and thus shouldn't move separately from anything else. Maybe I misunderstood you. The act of forcing blood shouldn't be impeded by the PMMA. At least I don't think (??)..
I can't figure out yet what exactly ballooning is, and wondered if it might not be that complex process in the other forum. However I seem to think it is a method to pump up manually especially at the most excited stages so that the glans will get gorged with blood for a duration of several minutes which usually only happens for a very brief time during the final phases prior to ejaculation - I don't know yet how this is done. The reason it interests me is because it has been documented in a study to work well with DHT cream in increasing length as well as glans size... naturally.
I remember reading here that another member who had the PMMA injections recently was told by Dr C or Wade that "Jelqing" was to be avoided due to its potential to disrupt the PMMA even after a wait period - something which requires confirmation. I also wonder if they'd extend this warning to Ballooning too?
I will try to explain it much better as much as I can , in my case esp. after my second session (more thicker penis "flaccid girth 6.2-6.3" and EG 6.75") when I do jelqing esp. in LOW erection(e.g. 40%) I will push the more superficial layers of the pmma and the collagen forward more than the deep layers of the pmma (more attached to the deep layers)and the penis , after my 1st session I could do jelqing (as in pre-pmma penis) in low erection I found the pmma more attached to the penis but as you get thicker the outer layers will be forced a bit forward than the deeper one (but they are not detached from each other) , so when you are targeting for more length (jelqing in low erection) and you have more volume of pmma after 2 sessions it will be difficult (that is in my case) but you can do jelqing in high erection(>90%) but whats the point I am not going for more girth. So in my case I wont do any jelqing .
Lets say for an example if you have two dildos both are wrapped with a bit softer rubber-like material one is with a thin rubber and the other with a much thicker one and each is fixed with a glue to the dildo and you try to do jelqing for both---> with the thinner one you can aqueeze with an ok sign the penis and push the blood in the CC forward more than the thicker, in the thicker one even if you squeeze hardly on the penis ( dont forget in LOW erection) you will hold most the pmma and the outer layers will be pushed forward a bit more than the deep ones attached to the penis I feel like you are stretching the outer layers more.
That is in my case we can ask the others who has 2-3 sessions their opinion about (( JELQING IN LOW ERECTION ?? ))
In a non-pmma penis you will squeeze on the tough tunica+the CC and pushing the blood forward in the CC.
In the other hand a pmma penis you will squeeze on the pmma+tough tunica+the CC , but in this situation as you know the pmma and the new collagen is surely softer the TOUGH (not easy to stretchable) tunica ---> so of course you will push the pmma a bit more forward than the tunica and the CC. ( as I said LOW erction , thicker pmma ).
I hope I did explain it much better for you . It could be only in my case???
I think the PMMA might be more resilient than most people think. Women have it in their bums supporting 50-100+ pounds of weight while sitting, working out etc. I think in order to cause serious damage you'd literally have to tear the tissue (which would be a serious injury in itself). But I'm just speculating. The doctor said exercises can be resumed after 6 weeks. If you're really worried about it I'd say pumping or vacuum hanging would be the least impactful on the PMMA tissue.
I'd say moderate intensity squeezing/stretching should be no problem. I plan to start doing some more PE, but I'll start slowly and ease into it.
justpitchingin: Anyways.. I have had the Elist procedure.. only 14 weeks post-op.. So far so good.. But be warned the girth is actually something that may not be appreciated as it may be a bit much for folks that are not into girth..
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