Post by Skeptical One on Mar 31, 2011 18:19:04 GMT -5
Excellent, I can only dream of having similar success. My starting girth is noticeably even smaller than your starting girth, so you can imagine my experiences with loose condoms and the inability to induce orgasm via penetration.
I truly hope your outcome, as well as all the other recent PMMA procedures are successful in not only the short term but in the long term. It's great to know you may no longer have to deal with the shroud of penile insecurity.
I guess it's only fitting that the guy with the smallest (forum-reported) girth is simultaneously the forum Administrator. hah. Hopefully not for long.
As for the amount put in, do you believe if your penis skin wasn't the desired type that Dr. C would have refused 16cc? In other words, could you have asked for 2, or 4 more cc across the shaft? Or is he adamant about the concentration and quantity used? I'm sure he has some type of quantity cut-off for patients on the first procedure...but I only ask because I'm hoping I can limit my appointments to only 2 (for financial reasons) and my ultimate goal is 6" in girth (though 5.5-5.75 may also work). Because of my smaller starting stats, it would require a bit more than average per session to achieve this size. I wouldn't want anything bigger than 6" because I'm certain it would distort the overall look of my penis to a degree that would make any chick wonder "wtf" had happened lol.
You will probably find me more active with inquiries on this particular report than others given our similar starting sizes, and thanks for the pics! I know you are using a phone for pictures so at this time no worries.
SO Why 6 inches? You realize at 5.0 you are bigger than the majority of men? The Lifestyles study found on Wiki has serious flaws in terms of size inflation from sampling bias... Focus on the MEDICAL studies from the USA and the rest of the world that did NOT ALLOW SELF MEASUREMENT (unlike original Kinsey study). What you will see is average girth ranges from 4.4-4.9. Some studies measure mid, some base, and some base/mid/below glans average, but the outcomes generally fall between 4.4-4.9 (not normal range, but actual AVERAGE). So if you get to 5.0-5.25 you will be above most guys, typical adult films star doesn't even have 6.0 mid girth. I think Hoddle said it best about the evolution of the PE community and how it may be causing guys to strive for something that may not even be compatible with the average woman.
Last Edit: Mar 31, 2011 19:18:25 GMT -5 by sparticus
I'm not making observations from measurement studies. I'm maximizing my potential in bed. If I'm going to spend my hard earned money and undergo the mental roller coaster that is PE, why not aim high?
Granted, it is not advisable to over fill or seek dramatic changes to your penis in order to prevent complications, and that is why I will consult with Dr. C about this.
As far as my size relative to other men? I disagree with the assertion that I'm the typical girth chaser. I've seen ridiculous sized cocks seeking outlandish girth, I hardly believe I'm in that category. Furthermore, I would be open to something less than 6" (but above 5) once I actually obtain it. I could care less what I am relative to other men. It hasn't even crossed my mind that I would stroll into a locker room and show off my new cock. It hasn't even occurred to me that I would boast about how I'm bigger than any of my peers.
What I do care about is maximizing my potential to please women. Ironically, my lack of size has made me an expert at foreplay, but at the end of the day, I want to know that if I fail in bed, it was due to my lack of effort and/or her libido...not my size. Granted, 5" should be "satisfactory," but, again, I'm not investing into this very important decision to obtain modest gains. Perhaps it seems counter-intuitive to what I've been promoting on this site for so long, but I think one must be in my shoes (or better put, "my girth") to really appreciate my outlook on this matter.
I will admit, however, that my goals are not arbitrary. Obviously these numbers were obtained by a variety of sources (which include, but are not limited to the web). There was a great thread started about "Optimal girth for pleasure," or something like that. I think the consensus that a 5" erect girth should comfortably please a majority of women could be agreed on (+/- a fraction of an inch), so I am basically taking that number and adding a bit more to ensure I rise just above the benchmark for optimal pleasure. Hence my goal of 5.5" - 6" in girth.
Heck I may not even reach a full 6" since that could compromise the aesthetic normality of my penis, but I'm willing to sacrifice minor aesthetics for a girthy end result. I think, in fairness to what I have preached, that I will make an evaluation after the first and second procedures (as well as it giving it a test drive on an average gal) to pass judgment on my "ultimate goals." And I use "ultimate" to imply that I wouldn't want anything beyond that, let alone the idea that I may not even reach it.
Again I appreciate your concern(s) and wanted to clarify my position. Too many missed opportunities, too many "great fucks" that walked away, too many relationships prematurely ended, enduring this all through my youth. Not seeking sympathy, but perhaps a perspective into why I may be so adamant about above-average gains.
mikehok: I just noticed I missed your question about the different concentrations of PMMA used. He used 10% for right below the glans where it was already my thickest spot. And he used 20% for the rest. Even so, I'm still thickest right below the glans at the moment.
@so: I sincerely hope this is a long term solution for us who have and will have this procedure as well! As far as I can tell Dr. C uses his best judgement to decide what amount of PMMA to use. It's not like he took one look at my penis and knew exactly how much he should use. I'm sure upon first inspection he had a rough idea based on my size, amount and stretchiness of skin, etc and then injected the amount he thought would produce a thick, but also proportioned penis. From some things he said I think his cutoff for first time patients as well as returning patients is 20 ccs of 20% PMMA. He said he has used 30% concentration but doesn't like to do it. However if you were to tell him that you are willing to sacrifice aesthetics for more girth I don't know what he would say.
sparticus: I had a below average penis before. Now it is average and I'm very content with it, but like SO said if I'm going to spend hard earned money why not aim for above average? It might sound a bit vain, but I want an above average penis. I've had to deal with being below average height my whole life as well. I think having a thick penis will do wonders for my self-esteem and from doing a lot of reading and research I've come to my personal conclusion that a girth of 5.5-6" would be ideal given my length and it seems to be a great size for pleasing women as well. I've also looked for a cylindrical object around my house that was 6" in girth and held it in my hands to see how it would feel. It felt really good. I don't know, 6" just seems to be that magical number a lot of us want to reach. Some even going well beyond it.
Last Edit: May 14, 2011 7:42:38 GMT -5 by moregirth
I have found a cylinder object nearly identical to that of my penis, and then I found similar objects being both 5" and 6" in circumference. Maybe sounds obsessive but I was curious to see how they compared. It is quite a difference (obviously).
I really am not sure I'd call us small guys "vain" for wanting to be bigger than we already are. Whatever you wish to consider this insecurity, whether it is socially engineered or purely psychological, the numbers don't lie. You were*, and I (clearly) am under average, so our pursuit for girth is more along the lines of "improving overall confidence and love life," as opposed to obtaining a larger cock for vanity. I don't mean to offend others who have average or above average cocks that pursue girth enhancement, but this is how I feel.
I am going to trust Dr. C in making the judgment since he's been making pretty good estimates on previous penises. The more and more I think about it, I will probably need closer to 3 sessions to avoid subjecting my penis to an FFT-Gone-Wrong type distortion.
Good luck with your healing phase. Did the doctor mention anything about when you can shower again and when you can have sex again (sorry if you have answered this before). I know others have mentioned it but I am usually keen on asking separate members the same questions to be sure Dr. C is consistent with his advice (that is very important).
sheldon & G Tiger: Thanks! I will keep updating this thread regularly.
mikehok: I am not sure, but that found about right. And I also agree with you that I don't believe the average girth could be as low as 4.4". But then again, I've not like I've seen a lot of penises in my life, lol.
I'm 2 days post op today which is the time the PMMA should be all settled in according to Dr. C. I'm still massaging it a bit every now and then. I noticed that only one entry hole near the glans is still not fully closed so I will hold off on taking a shower until it is fully closed. There is still a little bit of bruising on the right side and it's still swollen of course.
I tried to get erect but could not achieve a full erection yet. The skin feels pretty tight at the moment once I start plumping up. The shape my penis takes in the semi erect state is girthier at mid shaft and less at the base and near the glans. It's a bit of an odd shape, like stewies head head from family guy (not as exaggerated of course, lol). I will post a pic up once I get home to show you guys what I'm talking about. I'm going to call up Wade later today to check in and tell him about this. My theory is that this is because of the tape used to keep the gauze in place at the entry points at the base and also because of all the sitting I did (I flew there and then immediately flew back home) after the procedure and not wearing the ring until I got home. Also the swelling might be making it more pronounced as well, so I will have to wait and see what it looks like when the swelling goes down and the collagen starts to form.
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