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Post by camaroz2820032003 on Mar 23, 2011 21:59:44 GMT -5
Ok, i have done a lot of research on many many doctors but i just cant decide which one fits me the best and which one will give me exactly what i am looking for, so i come to you guys. I want to find out which surgery has the most permenant gain in both girth and length, but I still want to have all feeling and sensations in my penis life i presently do. I dont want to lose feeling after surgery, and have sex just not feel as good cause face it that would suck. I have looked at a lot of before and after pics with all of the doctors that I could find online, and i have to admit some of them scared me. I saw some that had considerable gain and looked ok, then some with deformities and lumps, then I have even seen some that looked like no gain what soever. I am at a halt on my search and need some info from the experienced guys on here that have had the surgeries. I hope i get a response from different people with the different types of surgeries. I have read a lot of threads on this site on the different types and still cant decide, I really want to get the answers I need. help me please. Listed below are the question I need answered before i am confident enough to get it done.
Which procedure gives the best gains in girth and length that are permenant? Which doctor gives the best outcome? Which procedure is comfortable post op? Which procedure wont take away the sexual feeling? Can anybody on here send me pics of their post ops and tell me what they went with?
I know this posting will be conflicting for some people because i am asking for a lot of responses from different procedures that people went with, I am simply trying to decide which one is the best for the money. Thank you I hope to hear from everybody soon.
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Post by Skeptical One on Mar 23, 2011 22:53:12 GMT -5
@camaroz
Welcome to the forum.
I'll do my best to give my 2 cents on your inquiries.
You asked: Which procedure gives the best gains in girth and length that are permanent? The "best" procedure for girth is quite subjective. It depends on your size goals as well as how important you deem aesthetics. "Best" can also imply a procedure with the least reported complications or shorter downtime (for healing). What I would do is to thoroughly review the many threads here pertaining to the variety of girth options, which include: PMMA, FFT (FFT-PRP), Alloderm/Belladerm, Elist implant, and dermal fat grafts. As administrator, I try to refrain from endorsing or discrediting any methods, so I hope the forum members chime in on what the best options are. I should note however, FFT, Alloderm/Belladerm, and dermal fat grafts have had previous reports of non-permanency, though it isn't certain if those methods have been improved at this time.
As far as length is concerned, the procedure is relatively the same between doctors who perform it. They sever the ligaments which allow your penis to supposedly drop further out from your body that can experience scar tissue & retraction risks. It also usually requires a rigorous post-op stretching regimen that could take months to realize any gains. With that being said, the only reported gains in length come from penis enlargement exercises. A word of caution, these exercises are not proven by any study to be effective, and can be harmful to your penis if you are not knowledgeable in how to correctly perform them. Hopefully in time there will be an effective lengthening procedure.
You asked: Which doctor gives the best ouctome? That's the million dollar question.
You asked: Which procedure is comfortable post op ? The most comfortable post-op procedure according to reports are probably PMMA and FFT-PRP because of their lower downtimes.
You asked: Which procedure wont take away the sexual feeling? All procedures can conceivably carry the risk of losing sensation...it doesn't have to be the method itself that causes the loss of sensation, it could be an accident by the hands of the doctor performing it as well. With that being said, it is important you consider this decision a very important one.
You asked: Can anybody on here send me pics of their post ops and tell me what they went with? There are tons of pics both on this forum and at the "Patient Support Group & Progress Threads" forum found on the main page with accompanying journals.
My sincere advice: Be sure to evaluate your situation. Wanting a big cock is understandable, but how big are you as it is? You may be above average and not know it. Does your love life suffer due to your size? Have you had negative experiences due to your size? You have to be sure your current state of mind about your penis is rational and healthy before making the incredibly important decision to undergo phalloplasty. I'd hate to see you or anyone put themselves at a risk that may in fact have never been necessary. But of course, that is for you to ultimately decide. Just be sure to understand that there are risks, and be sure to research all the available options. Feel free to ask questions in the future, but be sure to use the Search function (above) OR review relevant threads first since many questions have been answered many times before.
-S.O.
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Post by camaroz2820032003 on Mar 24, 2011 6:58:38 GMT -5
thank you very much your information was very helpful and I will continue to look over the posts listed on this site. I am glad I found your site!
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Post by mrstone on Mar 24, 2011 14:30:15 GMT -5
I can tell you that alloderm/belloderm, fat grafts, and fat injection do not work.. I do not know anything about PMMA (besides what is on the forums) and I am going to have the Elist implant put in next week, so I cannot speculate as to what the outcome will be.
All I can tell you is that any Dr performing the surgeries listed above will not yield the results they promise. If you read my thread you will discover my story, Im sure that will change your perspective on doing one of these surgeries.
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Post by hoddle10 on Mar 24, 2011 18:49:15 GMT -5
I can tell you that alloderm/belloderm, fat grafts, and fat injection do not work.. I do not know anything about PMMA (besides what is on the forums) and I am going to have the Elist implant put in next week, so I cannot speculate as to what the outcome will be. All I can tell you is that any Dr performing the surgeries listed above will not yield the results they promise. If you read my thread you will discover my story, Im sure that will change your perspective on doing one of these surgeries. Why tell him that alloderm, belloderm, fat grafts and fft don't work? I thought you only had FFT. All your knowledge that the others "don't work" seem to have come from hearing about negative experiences of other people. Yet you have chosen to ignore the numerous negative reports regarding the implant. You say you don't know anything about PMMA, but surely the same could be said of the silcone implant. You seem to be prepared to gamble on a procedure that you know has a terrible track record, yet at the same time dismiss 4 other types of surgery. I suppose you could argue that at least with the implant you are assured of gains, but at what cost? I know this is the wrong thread, as you've already started your own, but I think you really need to think twice about this.
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Post by Skeptical One on Mar 24, 2011 19:09:11 GMT -5
I can tell you that alloderm/belloderm, fat grafts, and fat injection do not work.. I do not know anything about PMMA (besides what is on the forums) and I am going to have the Elist implant put in next week, so I cannot speculate as to what the outcome will be. All I can tell you is that any Dr performing the surgeries listed above will not yield the results they promise. If you read my thread you will discover my story, Im sure that will change your perspective on doing one of these surgeries. I should note there are those here who feel the same way about Dr. Elist and his willingness to make promises that are many times unfulfilled. I think it is important to note that most procedures, including the silicone implant, have had both good & bad results.
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Post by mrstone on Mar 24, 2011 19:24:18 GMT -5
I can tell you that alloderm/belloderm, fat grafts, and fat injection do not work.. I do not know anything about PMMA (besides what is on the forums) and I am going to have the Elist implant put in next week, so I cannot speculate as to what the outcome will be. All I can tell you is that any Dr performing the surgeries listed above will not yield the results they promise. If you read my thread you will discover my story, Im sure that will change your perspective on doing one of these surgeries. Why tell him that alloderm, belloderm, fat grafts and fft don't work? I thought you only had FFT. All your knowledge that the others "don't work" seem to have come from hearing about negative experiences of other people. Yet you have chosen to ignore the numerous negative reports regarding the implant. You say you don't know anything about PMMA, but surely the same could be said of the silcone implant. You seem to be prepared to gamble on a procedure that you know has a terrible track record, yet at the same time dismiss 4 other types of surgery. I suppose you could argue that at least with the implant you are assured of gains, but at what cost? I know this is the wrong thread, as you've already started your own, but I think you really need to think twice about this. The only reason that I Know for certain that alloderm, fft and dermal grafts don’t work is because I have personally told hundreds of people that were upset with the results, that it was all going to be ok. You are correct; I have NEVER had alloderm of dermal grafts myself. What I can tell you is that there was not one patient from dr kravosky, dr king, dr r, or dr Rosenthal that were happy with the results. Every single patient complained, some lost length, some gained nothing at all. The lucky ones simply did not have severe complications. Not one email or phone call I ever received was in reference to how good the results were, or how happy the guy was that he did it. In regards to the implant I am open minded, like I stated in my other post I don’t have much to lose. So I am hoping that this is a viable option. I have never and still do not support the implant because there are so many mixed reviews, and I have no personal experience. I feel comfortable with Dr Elist, that is the only reason I am going through with this. Hoddle10 I sincerely appreciate your warnings, along with many others of you that have responded to my thread and P.M'd me. I will keep you all updated with my experience, I can tell you guys are a close knit bunch, and that is an awesome thing. Thank you all for your concern.
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Post by hoddle10 on Mar 24, 2011 19:44:04 GMT -5
I find it difficult to believe there was not one happy patient. Soma and Kingpin have both had surgery with Rosenthal and they are happy. IDM is happy with his FFT as is Frankbean. And iain01 is happy with his dermal graft, though he wants to be even bigger and messageman was happy with his dermal graft. If you go through the membership of this messageboard, there are more unhappy members who have had the Elist implant than unhappy members who have had fft, dermals or alloderm put together.
You can just have reconstructive surgery without further enlargement. I had FFT removed 5 weeks ago. I've had necrosis and still have issue's with the skin sticking to the shaft, but hopefully this will resolve itself soon. But I can tell you my penis looks so much better without the fat. Many guys who have had the implant have lost length and the majority have an unnatural looking penis with the implant. So you do have things to lose. Why not have the fat removed and just let it heal for a year and then decide what to do.
Btw when did you work with Dr Rosenthal?
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