Post by soma on Mar 8, 2011 19:51:00 GMT -5
Hi All,
I'm going to try to move this over from Thunders Place as only members over there can see it. I'll be adding photo's as well. Next month will be 6 months post op and I'll add newer photos.
Not sure how this is going to work but here goes:
Ok, so there's more exposition in the surgery mini forum, but basically I had surgery on Tuesday October 5th with Dr R. Belladerm and lig release. I'm no way near healed however I said I'd post pics along the way, so here some before and after pics:
Posts: 66
10-08-2010, 11:27 AM
Post #2
e211
e211
View Public Profile
Send a private message to e211
Find all posts by e211
Add e211 to Your Buddy List
View e211's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ca
I don't see any pics yet I gues they haven't been released by a moderator yet. This would be very interesting to see your progress with before and after pics. I'm wondering what your pre PE stats were, how far you got with PE and what are you expecting to be after the surgery? Do you have a significant other and if so do they support this?
Posts: 335
10-08-2010, 12:09 PM
Post #3
firegoat
firegoat
View Public Profile
Send a private message to firegoat
Find all posts by firegoat
Add firegoat to Your Buddy List
View firegoat's PE Statistics
Moderator
Forum Donator
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: England. Ooop in't North.
No sign of any pics. Please could you upload them again. Thanks.
__________________
www.sexhealthreview.com/ThunderSPlace.html
Posts: 6,625
10-08-2010, 12:39 PM
Post #4
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Ok, so I gained about an inch with PE over the years, most of which was by hanging back in the early 2000's. At first I used the homemade Hubbord devices and ended up with a BIB prototype. I uploaded pic but it said they had to be approved first?? I'll try again, and remember these are just a couple days post op. As my body integrates the belladerm I expect better asthetics, plus the bruising should go away.
Posts: 66
10-08-2010, 12:45 PM
Post #5
ironaddict69
ironaddict69
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ironaddict69
Find all posts by ironaddict69
Add ironaddict69 to Your Buddy List
View ironaddict69's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
Still don't see any waiting to be approved. You sure you know how to upload them? I am pretty anxious as I have wanted the length surgery for a year now.
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-08-2010, 12:52 PM
Post #6
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Ok this is a little frustrating. I think the pics were too large, but when I go to edit them it says I don't have permission. I'm sure it's just my lack of experience....trying again:
Posts: 66
10-08-2010, 01:04 PM
Post #7
ironaddict69
ironaddict69
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ironaddict69
Find all posts by ironaddict69
Add ironaddict69 to Your Buddy List
View ironaddict69's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
You have to resize them on your computer first, and then upload and post them.
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-08-2010, 01:12 PM
Post #8
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Thanks~ I'm working on it!
Posts: 66
10-08-2010, 01:22 PM
Post #9
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Think I'm through with my technical challenges so here goes again. There is no post op erect yet:
Attached Images
preop flaccid no chub.JPG (23.1 KB, 2969 views)
preop very flaccid no chub.JPG (21.3 KB, 2437 views)
3days post flaccid no chub.JPG (24.8 KB, 2645 views)
3 day post op flaccid no chub.JPG (22.1 KB, 2856 views)
pre op erect.JPG (19.8 KB, 3089 views)
Posts: 66
10-08-2010, 01:40 PM
Post #10
chad993
chad993
View Public Profile
Send a private message to chad993
Find all posts by chad993
Add chad993 to Your Buddy List
View chad993's PE Statistics
New Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Wisconsin
Keep us posted
Posts: 1
10-08-2010, 03:03 PM
Post #11
ironaddict69
ironaddict69
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ironaddict69
Find all posts by ironaddict69
Add ironaddict69 to Your Buddy List
View ironaddict69's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
First off, NICE fucking quads man, I am a power lifter myself what's your weight at currently?
Second, you are already packing there man you are going to be fucking large after you start stretching and hanging, which by the way you need to do both! Just remember start out VERY light after the length surgery, I believe 1-2 lbs being plenty. Do you have a hanger and an ADS yet? Remember the post op length traction is critical to not only success, but not ending up SHORTER.
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-08-2010, 03:16 PM
Post #12
ThunderSS
ThunderSS
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ThunderSS
Visit ThunderSS's homepage!
Find all posts by ThunderSS
Add ThunderSS to Your Buddy List
View ThunderSS's PE Statistics
Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Land of the Ill-informed
When did you have the surgery Soma?
__________________
This place runs on donations, help out if you can. Thanks.
www.1inch100days.com/
Posts: 46,325
10-08-2010, 03:17 PM
Post #13
PErsian
PErsian
View Public Profile
Send a private message to PErsian
Send email to PErsian
Find all posts by PErsian
Add PErsian to Your Buddy List
View PErsian's PE Statistics
Moderator
Forum Subscriber
Join Date: Mar 2003
Hold on a sec, you said you were 6.5 x 5 pre-op? Is that 6.5 N or B? That last pic looks minimum 7.25B x 5.5 with a 6.25 Base, way bigger then what you stated.
__________________
Now: NBPEL = 6.4 MSEG = 5.3 BEG = 5.75
Goals: NBPEL = 7.0 MSEG = 6.0
www.sexhealthreview.com/ThunderSPlace.html
Posts: 590
10-08-2010, 03:19 PM
Post #14
PErsian
PErsian
View Public Profile
Send a private message to PErsian
Send email to PErsian
Find all posts by PErsian
Add PErsian to Your Buddy List
View PErsian's PE Statistics
Moderator
Forum Subscriber
Join Date: Mar 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThunderSS
When did you have the surgery Soma?
From his posts he said on the 5th, in the morning.
__________________
Now: NBPEL = 6.4 MSEG = 5.3 BEG = 5.75
Goals: NBPEL = 7.0 MSEG = 6.0
www.sexhealthreview.com/ThunderSPlace.html
Posts: 590
10-08-2010, 03:32 PM
Post #15
bohm
bohm
View Public Profile
Send a private message to bohm
Find all posts by bohm
Add bohm to Your Buddy List
View bohm's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Canada
Quote:
Originally Posted by persian
Hold on a sec, you said you were 6.5 x 5 pre-op? Is that 6.5 N or B? That last pic looks minimum 7.25B x 5.5 with a 6.25 Base, way bigger then what you stated.
He said, "Erect measurements are 6.75 x 5.0". He looks bigger.
Soma - Surgical Penis Enlargement Mini Forum ~ Penis surgery
__________________
Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)
Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)
Posts: 1,384
6.75 NBP for sure, looks like a legit 7 incher, not a skinny one either he was definitely one of the larger guys the doc operated on I am assuming.
How long were you doing normal PE before you took the surgery plunge man?
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-08-2010, 06:12 PM
Post #17
mafero
mafero
View Public Profile
Send a private message to mafero
Send email to mafero
Find all posts by mafero
Add mafero to Your Buddy List
View mafero's PE Statistics
Moderator
Forum Donator
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: New York
I would like to see a post-op erection pic, just to see how the angle of erection changed.
__________________
Mafero
Penemanual.com nos está robando
Posts: 3,153
10-08-2010, 06:45 PM
Post #18
17ml
17ml
View Public Profile
Send a private message to 17ml
Find all posts by 17ml
Add 17ml to Your Buddy List
View 17ml's PE Statistics
Ex Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: May 2009
Location: North London
Soma, were you told that your BPEL would also be bigger post op? Just because most people who offer the procedure usually mention that it might not, and is mostly for flaccid gains, and of course if you have girth treatment, the girth.
__________________
Start 6.5 bpel 5.75 eg Current bpel 7.0 eg 6.75 (7.0eg base) Goal bpel 7.25 eg 7.0 mid shaft
Progress routine and pics/vidshttp://www.sexhealthreview.com/ThunderSPlace.html
Posts: 1,143
10-08-2010, 07:11 PM
Post #19
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
I'll be glad to post a post op erection pic as soon as I can, as I'm really curious (and hopeful).
Regarding my pre-ops length:
I posted 6.75 x 5. It was bone pressed but not wicked hard as I see in some measurement pictures. I could get a flaccid bone pressed stretch out past 7 1/4, but erect was really only 6.75. Maybe if I pressed harder I would've measured longer~ The girth was definitely 5 mid shaft.
Regarding erect gains post op:
I was NOT told post op erect length would immediately manifest. However, as has been discussed at length in various forums when you add volume (belladerm girth) you sacrifice length because of the finite elasticity of the skin. This is simple physics. After healing, you begin a weight hanging routine to increase this capacity and to advance/stretch the penis without the constraint of the suspensory ligaments. Only after a diligent weight hanging routine that increases this capacity did Dr. R tell me that I would realize the erect gains I wanted (1 inch). Weight hanging was the only lengthening PE that I ever tried that resulted in my erect gains. So for me this resonates as true; as you increase the constraint on total volume, your potential gain increases. How much do the ligs constrain the advancement of the penis, and/or amount amount of penis available to stretch? Time will tell in my case.
Posts: 66
10-08-2010, 07:58 PM
Post #20
Audacia
Audacia
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Audacia
Find all posts by Audacia
Add Audacia to Your Buddy List
View Audacia's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Making her tremble!
Quote:
Originally Posted by mafero
I would like to see a post-op erection pic, just to see how the angle of erection changed.
Me too, his starting erection size looks impressive.
Oh and Soma, be careful if you're going to hang. I'm not 100% sure but I believe the surgery girth gains came from putting a material inside the unit which eventually degrades to become a part of the tissue. If that's the case then the material would not be lower down in your dick.
Therefore if you get enough length gains from hanging the girth at the base could in theory be the same girth as before the surgery (a baseball bat effect). Anyway just consider that first.
I'm still baffled you chose surgery when PE is so effective on it's own. I hope for you, that you get good results.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlWhoTrembles
Audacia, OMGOMGOMGOGMGOMGOMG! *Eyes roll back in head and collapses with bliss*
Hey! YOU! Yes you! Everytime you read this wish Audacia Awesome Luck on Growing his MONSTER COCK!
Posts: 2,365
10-08-2010, 09:01 PM
Post #21
Dino9X7
Dino9X7
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Dino9X7
Find all posts by Dino9X7
Add Dino9X7 to Your Buddy List
View Dino9X7's PE Statistics
Moderator Alumni
Forum Donator
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NY
Soma
If someone from the forum decides to get the operation do you get anything? I know with some of the other guys that had surgery they would get a commission if they brought in a referral. I don't mean to insult your character but I just wanted our members aware that this practice sometimes happens. With that said I honestly wish you the best and a speedy recovery and hope you get your inch.
__________________
I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)
www.sexhealthreview.com/ThunderSPlace.htmlhttp://www.1inch100days.com/
Posts: 20,149
10-09-2010, 12:59 AM
Post #22
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
ummm, no~ and not interested. I only hope I end up with a good outcome.
Posts: 66
10-09-2010, 04:44 AM
Post #23
Sultan
Sultan
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Sultan
Find all posts by Sultan
Add Sultan to Your Buddy List
View Sultan's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: United Strokes of America
I'll be following your progress, Soma. When I have the extra cash I'm going to consider getting my ligs snipped; probably after I graduate in a few years. The girth enhancement is too risky for me but I will be observing how the lig snip works out for you.
I really appreciate you documenting your journey on TP. You're doing a big service for those of us who are still curious about the process of lengthening the penis with snipped ligs.
Posts: 562
10-09-2010, 11:53 AM
Post #24
ironaddict69
ironaddict69
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ironaddict69
Find all posts by ironaddict69
Add ironaddict69 to Your Buddy List
View ironaddict69's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
Yeah the lig snip seems not very intrusive and very safe in my eyes, the girth surgery seems to be where problems arise.
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-09-2010, 12:44 PM
Post #25
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Audacia,
My decision was years in the making, AND after successful gains and countless hours using with non-surgical PE techniques. It was really the permanent girth increases available today with belladerm that finally convinced me.
As far as hanging afterwards and the potential for a "baseball bat" like effect, I think the techniques Dr R employs compensates for this potential outcome. First, my base is wider to begin with, and feels even wider in the "unadvanced" portion, at least as far as I could tell pre-surgery. Second, I believe and feel that their is Belladerm placed very deeply on the shaft. I think (because I didn't ask) that it is placed their for the exact reason that you surfaced, so that when you begin to advance/stretch you don't end up with a asymmetrical cock. We will see. Also, if I'm wrong and end up with a baseball bat penis...well that doesn't sound horrible :-)
Posts: 66
10-09-2010, 06:41 PM
Post #26
ironaddict69
ironaddict69
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ironaddict69
Find all posts by ironaddict69
Add ironaddict69 to Your Buddy List
View ironaddict69's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
Baseball bat dicks are better than cone's from my opinion, being the owner of a pretty tapered shaft myself, I would rather have the bat effect. I wouldn't worry too much about it. When can you begin traction? I was told light ADS use should begin immediately? I wouldn't wait too long my man.
If you don't mind I am sure we would all love more details on which incision technique they used, if they completely cut your ligs or just re-attached them lower etc. Seems to be way too many different techniques used nowadays.
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-09-2010, 08:02 PM
Post #27
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
One incision slightly wider than the base of the penis slightly superior on the abdominal side, as should be evident from the pics. Once the hole from the drain is completely closed I will take a photo without the bandage. Also, I believe he removes the ligs from the pubic bone completely and puts some fat in between while healing to inhibit any scar tissue adhesions.
No traction for 6 weeks~ doctors orders and I'll follow them. At six weeks I'll beging hanging weights with the grip.
Posts: 66
10-09-2010, 08:12 PM
Post #28
marinera
marinera
View Public Profile
Send a private message to marinera
Send email to marinera
Find all posts by marinera
Add marinera to Your Buddy List
View marinera's Favorites
View marinera's PE Statistics
Moderator Alumni
Forum Donator
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: italy
What kind of hanger are they planning to use on you? A commercial one? A Bib, a vac-type, what?
__________________
Mine is growing .
Stay away from junk sellers!
Posts: 13,380
10-09-2010, 08:41 PM
Post #29
Audacia
Audacia
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Audacia
Find all posts by Audacia
Add Audacia to Your Buddy List
View Audacia's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Making her tremble!
Haha I really doubt they'd have a bib for him. Actually I'm a little shocked they'd recommend hanging. Usually didn't they just give out an ADS?
I wonder how much the ligament heals after 6 weeks though. I personally would never consider having surgery unless PE just did not work at all but it has and will continue too. Still I'm intrigued by this none the less.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlWhoTrembles
Audacia, OMGOMGOMGOGMGOMGOMG! *Eyes roll back in head and collapses with bliss*
Hey! YOU! Yes you! Everytime you read this wish Audacia Awesome Luck on Growing his MONSTER COCK!
Posts: 2,365
10-09-2010, 09:33 PM
Post #30
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
I owned two different bib hangers. Actually I still own them just don't use them; one was a prototype when he was designing it and one was the completed product. Yes, I was one of test subjects who provided feedback to Bib when he was designing them. They were the comfortable side of the clamp concept. I have been using a x4labs extender product for the last ten months with more comfort but slow gains.
The hanger he (Dr) recommends is the Grip, as I mentioned in my last post. He likes that because of the comfort and ability to hang enough weight to cause advancement and skin stretching (6lbs + is required according to the good MD). I don't think he has anything to do with the company and there are other types of these products (wasn't one invented by a guy on this site?). It is a vacuum concept hanger/ADS, and I have never tried these type but hope they offer better comfort.
He is pretty confident that once he removes the ligs they don't re-attach, and he also places fat there to inhibit scar tissue adhesions (scar tissue is scary). He indicates this happens more frequently in higher body fat patients.
Good luck buddy, did you add me on messenger?
Also whats a grip hanger?
__________________
Start 6.5 bpel 5.75 eg Current bpel 7.0 eg 6.75 (7.0eg base) Goal bpel 7.25 eg 7.0 mid shaft
Progress routine and pics/vidshttp://www.sexhealthreview.com/ThunderSPlace.html
Posts: 1,143
10-10-2010, 11:42 AM
Post #32
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Iron,
Just noticed your comment on my thighs, thanks bro. I was a power lifter in a different chapter of my life. I've had to many knee surgeries to mess with REAL heavy weights any more, but I still do a lot of functional training like crossfit, steel program etc. Doing NOTHING for a couple more weeks :-( but I'm sure it'll be worth it in the end.
17,
I'm downloading messenger now and will add you asap. Also, just do a Google search for the Grip system and I'm sure you'll find it. The doc says he likes this one but say there are others that I could choose from. He definitely likes the vacuum type though.
Yardstick (if your out there),
Man, does this thing ache at night. 10 days can't get here soon enough!
Posts: 66
10-10-2010, 03:15 PM
Post #33
Sultan
Sultan
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Sultan
Find all posts by Sultan
Add Sultan to Your Buddy List
View Sultan's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: United Strokes of America
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soma
Man, does this thing ache at night. 10 days can't get here soon enough!
Is the 10 day mark when the pain should begin to wear off?
Posts: 562
10-10-2010, 07:56 PM
Post #34
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
I think between 10-14 according to what I've read from others~
Posts: 66
10-10-2010, 08:59 PM
Post #35
brace
brace
View Public Profile
Send a private message to brace
Find all posts by brace
Add brace to Your Buddy List
View brace's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: florida
How expensive was the surgery? It looks like you were already pretty well equiped. Good luck with your gains!
Posts: 44
10-10-2010, 11:00 PM
Post #36
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
10.5k
Posts: 66
10-12-2010, 09:17 AM
Post #37
UM1991
UM1991
View Public Profile
Send a private message to UM1991
Find all posts by UM1991
Add UM1991 to Your Buddy List
View UM1991's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: United States
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soma
10.5k
Ouch!
Posts: 835
10-12-2010, 04:11 PM
Post #38
ironaddict69
ironaddict69
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ironaddict69
Find all posts by ironaddict69
Add ironaddict69 to Your Buddy List
View ironaddict69's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
Doing girth and length in one surgery is expensive. I think I remember having just the length done was a LOT cheaper since it is so much easier. But yeah these doctors are overcharging and making a killing, it is like how viagra's are 10$ at the pharmacy.
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-12-2010, 06:51 PM
Post #39
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
I agree, 10.5k is nothing to sneeze at, but at the same time and assuming my outcome is good (it is permanent) the cost compared to how much enjoyment I intend to get from it (and give with it!) is worth it to me. I think of all the doodads I could've bought with that money but don't find one that I think I'll enjoy as much, and for as long as a big fat dick.
Iron,
Btw, the lengthening was a drop in the bucket (2k I think) compared to the Belladerm (8.5k). It is cheaper to have them done together as you don't need to pay an anesthesiologist twice. I was actually mostly interested in the Belladerm widening and would not have paid much more for the lengthening.
Posts: 66
10-12-2010, 10:22 PM
Post #40
ironaddict69
ironaddict69
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ironaddict69
Find all posts by ironaddict69
Add ironaddict69 to Your Buddy List
View ironaddict69's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
Wow the lengthening is only 2k! Wow!
I don't even have 2k to spend but someday I definitely think I would look into that.
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-13-2010, 01:02 PM
Post #41
Sultan
Sultan
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Sultan
Find all posts by Sultan
Add Sultan to Your Buddy List
View Sultan's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: United Strokes of America
Only two grand? My goodness I was under the impression the snip would cost at least twice that, maybe more. I only have one penis so if I had to pay 5 grand for top notch quality I would (because to fix a hack job would cost way more!); but two grand is well within reach for me not to consider it.
Posts: 562
10-15-2010, 01:16 AM
Post #42
jb560
jb560
View Public Profile
Send a private message to jb560
Find all posts by jb560
Add jb560 to Your Buddy List
View jb560's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Subscriber
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Southern Born
The widening interests me.
__________________
Then 01/15/08 EBPL: 6.25 EG 5.10 Now 10/05/09 EBPL 7.75 EG 5.25 Girth work for 103 days.
New Short Term Goal: EBPL 8.0 EG 5.5 Lifetime goal 9x6.5 PE log and journal
Posts: 2,491
10-15-2010, 02:11 AM
Post #43
ironaddict69
ironaddict69
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ironaddict69
Find all posts by ironaddict69
Add ironaddict69 to Your Buddy List
View ironaddict69's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
Quote:
Originally Posted by jb560
The widening interests me.
Can you not gain girth from regular exercises?
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-15-2010, 02:48 PM
Post #44
jb560
jb560
View Public Profile
Send a private message to jb560
Find all posts by jb560
Add jb560 to Your Buddy List
View jb560's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Subscriber
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Southern Born
Quote:
Originally Posted by ironaddict69
Can you not gain girth from regular exercises?
The discoloration is so bad that my girlfriend actually got distracted by it and it pretty embarrassing. So until I can find a way to get rid of the discoloration, I won't do any more girth work. Since I won't do any more girth work, the widening interests me greatly.
__________________
Then 01/15/08 EBPL: 6.25 EG 5.10 Now 10/05/09 EBPL 7.75 EG 5.25 Girth work for 103 days.
New Short Term Goal: EBPL 8.0 EG 5.5 Lifetime goal 9x6.5 PE log and journal
Posts: 2,491
10-15-2010, 03:04 PM
Post #45
kubchaser
kubchaser
View Public Profile
Send a private message to kubchaser
Find all posts by kubchaser
Add kubchaser to Your Buddy List
View kubchaser's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Canada
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soma
10.5k
Man the result is unbelievable!
So how much length do you get from "lig release" now? Does that affect your erection length?
Your flaccid hang is huge comparing to before operation.
Your pre-op erection picture looks huge already.
Can you take some pictures of post-op erection pics? I wonder how much gain would that be.
__________________
(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG (Sep 24, 2010) 5.94" BPEL x 5.11" EG (Oct 17, 2010) 6.10" BPEL x 5.11" EG / 6.41" BPFSL
"kubchaser" progress report: determined! (for progress/pics)
Goal: 8" (20.32 cm) long / 6" (15.24 cm) thick
________________________________________
Last edited by kubchaser : 10-15-2010 at 03:10 PM.
Soma, I am interested to hear the state of your recovery. Please keep posting.
Posts: 20
10-15-2010, 03:09 PM
Post #47
matutinal_euphony
matutinal_euphony
View Public Profile
Send a private message to matutinal_euphony
Find all posts by matutinal_euphony
Add matutinal_euphony to Your Buddy List
View matutinal_euphony's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: north carolina
How bout a post-op erection?
__________________
Dick hang low
*** HEY www.sexhealthreview.com/ThunderSPlace.html FUCK YOU ***
Posts: 2,025
10-15-2010, 06:23 PM
Post #48
ironaddict69
ironaddict69
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ironaddict69
Find all posts by ironaddict69
Add ironaddict69 to Your Buddy List
View ironaddict69's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
Quote:
Originally Posted by jb560
The discoloration is so bad that my girlfriend actually got distracted by it and it pretty embarrassing. So until I can find a way to get rid of the discoloration, I won't do any more girth work. Since I won't do any more girth work, the widening interests me greatly.
Even from light clamping? What about jelqing or pumping?
Back to topic, to Soma, what are your flaccid stats now?
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-15-2010, 10:25 PM
Post #49
Audacia
Audacia
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Audacia
Find all posts by Audacia
Add Audacia to Your Buddy List
View Audacia's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Making her tremble!
Jb just clamp for less time, clamp not so tight. Do firegoat rolls and do light jelqing after. There are ways to avoid or lessen discolouration greatly. Not to mention wearing a condom whilst clamping. The pressure if the condom tight against the skin prevents capillaries from bursting which is what causes the discolouration I believe.
On topic: Post Op Erection! Post Op Erection! Post Op Erection! Post Op Erection!
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlWhoTrembles
Audacia, OMGOMGOMGOGMGOMGOMG! *Eyes roll back in head and collapses with bliss*
Hey! YOU! Yes you! Everytime you read this wish Audacia Awesome Luck on Growing his MONSTER COCK!
Posts: 2,365
10-16-2010, 12:52 PM
Post #50
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Hi All,
I won't post a "post op erect pic" for about 3 more weeks as I don't plan on working one up (pain), and I'm taking the "no boner" pills until 4 weeks post op. Healing is going well, although I'm still waiting for the drain hole to close and the pain to stop. I caught a cold from my kids 4 days post op and don't think that it helped my healing. I'm just feeling better from that today, and I'm seeing incremental improvements (penis) in coloration and sensation but am a few weeks, I think, from feeling ok. I worked/taught for about 8 hours yesterday and was really hurting towards the end and afterwards. However, I'm feeling pretty "ok" today.
Post op flaccid improvement are impressive. I'm 5 1/4 flaccid girth and usually hang at 5 1/4 too. I am looking forward to hanging because I sense that once I start that I'll be around 6 flaccid all the time. Often times I hang there now but the smallest I've measured is 5 1/4 so that what I'm going with.
Posts: 66
10-16-2010, 01:12 PM
Post #51
PErsian
PErsian
View Public Profile
Send a private message to PErsian
Send email to PErsian
Find all posts by PErsian
Add PErsian to Your Buddy List
View PErsian's PE Statistics
Moderator
Forum Subscriber
Join Date: Mar 2003
How is the sensitivity on the shaft, does the girth implant still feel foreign or has it been integrating with your shaft.
And thank you for your very descriptive and precise updates. Keep them coming my friend. I can't wait to see the post-erection pics.
__________________
Now: NBPEL = 6.4 MSEG = 5.3 BEG = 5.75
Goals: NBPEL = 7.0 MSEG = 6.0
www.sexhealthreview.com/ThunderSPlace.html
Posts: 590
10-17-2010, 04:02 PM
Post #52
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
The feel of the Belladerm improves and feels more natural every day, so I think that my body is starting to integrate the tissue. The sensation is normal in the head, underside, and sides, however the top mid-shaft is a little numb. It is improving though and I'm still getting nerve sensation/zingers so I imagine that it's all still stretching and getting used to the new girth; I can see some very small stretch marks already. I had a scab develop under the head from some post op bruising. It has come off but the skin is still uncomfortable underneath. I'll be at two weeks post op on Tuesday and will report on my progress and post some more pictures then.
Posts: 66
10-20-2010, 05:59 PM
2 weeks post op pic Post #53
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Ok, so I just went past two weeks and I seem to be healing well. I posting a slight chub photo, meaning I have just a little blood flow. I am very happy with the girth so far and am looking forward to next week where I think I'll stop taking the "no boner pills"!!
Attached Images
2 weeks post op slight chub.jpg (19.1 KB, 932 views)
Posts: 66
10-20-2010, 06:32 PM
Post #54
hsarge
hsarge
View Public Profile
Send a private message to hsarge
Find all posts by hsarge
Add hsarge to Your Buddy List
View hsarge's PE Statistics
New Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PA
Congrats; it looks like you are healing well.
Posts: 20
Posts: 20
10-20-2010, 06:38 PM
Post #55
PErsian
PErsian
View Public Profile
Send a private message to PErsian
Send email to PErsian
Find all posts by PErsian
Add PErsian to Your Buddy List
View PErsian's PE Statistics
Moderator
Forum Subscriber
Join Date: Mar 2003
Hey Soma what did the Doctors say in-terms of how permanent the girth is? Thanks bud. Looking very good so far, congratulations
__________________
Now: NBPEL = 6.4 MSEG = 5.3 BEG = 5.75
Goals: NBPEL = 7.0 MSEG = 6.0
www.sexhealthreview.com/ThunderSPlace.html
Posts: 590
10-20-2010, 07:04 PM
Post #56
4wheeler
4wheeler
View Public Profile
Send a private message to 4wheeler
Find all posts by 4wheeler
Add 4wheeler to Your Buddy List
View 4wheeler's PE Statistics
New Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: UK
I'm really considering this op - Have you got some in depth details, the pros are obvious but what are the cons, success rate and side effects?
Thanks
________________________________________
Last edited by 4wheeler : 10-20-2010 at 07:09 PM.
Posts: 26
10-20-2010, 07:37 PM
Post #57
man-of-10
man-of-10
View Public Profile
Send a private message to man-of-10
Find all posts by man-of-10
Add man-of-10 to Your Buddy List
View man-of-10's PE Statistics
Moderator
Forum Donator
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Ireland
Interesting thread. I look forward to updates .
__________________
Decemeber 2007: 5.8" BPEL x 4.9" MSEG
Current:-------->7.7" BPEL x 5.7" MSEG (7.2" NBPEL)
Current Goal:--->7.6" BPEL X 5.8" MSEG Do or do not, there is no "try". www.pe-sites.com/examples1.htm
Posts: 2,351
10-20-2010, 08:52 PM
Post #58
prefontaine1973
prefontaine1973
View Public Profile
Send a private message to prefontaine1973
Find all posts by prefontaine1973
Add prefontaine1973 to Your Buddy List
View prefontaine1973's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: NC
It is awesome to see this! Congrats. I hope all goes well.
Posts: 41
10-20-2010, 09:34 PM
Post #59
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Doc said girth and length will increase as the skin stretches. So far I have an 1 1/4 inch increase in flaccid girth. I doubt this will exactly translate erect girth but time will tell. As far as risks, I suggest talking with a Doc, but remember they are selling this surgery. Dr R. was very open about the risks: infection, loss of sensation, skin sloughing (mostly in smokers), and a few others I remember him mentioning. I think i'm out of the wood as far as infection goes (but man, you have to take sponge baths for 3 weeks to help avoid this). I have a small numb spot top midshaft that should reslove over time. I think it will as I can tell my skin is really stretched right now. I had similar temporary numb spots from hanging, and they went away over time. He toughts a very low (almost 0) complication rate with his current techniques, however only he knows~ So far, everything he has told me has been spot on so I'm very happy with his integrity. Be advised though, this is no casual surgery.
Posts: 66
10-20-2010, 09:41 PM
Post #60
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Persian,
Doc said the girth IS permanent~
Posts: 66
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soma
Doc said girth and length will increase as the skin stretches. So far I have an 1 1/4 inch increase in flaccid girth. I doubt this will exactly translate erect girth but time will tell. As far as risks, I suggest talking with a Doc, but remember they are selling this surgery. Dr R. Was very open about the risks: infection, loss of sensation, skin sloughing (mostly in smokers), and a few others I remember him mentioning. I think I'm out of the wood as far as infection goes (but man, you have to take sponge baths for 3 weeks to help avoid this). I have a small numb spot top midshaft that should reslove over time. I think it will as I can tell my skin is really stretched right now. I had similar temporary numb spots from hanging, and they went away over time. He toughts a very low (almost 0) complication rate with his current techniques, however only he knows~ So far, everything he has told me has been spot on so I'm very happy with his integrity. Be advised though, this is no casual surgery.
Thanks for that.
Is there any chance of re-absorption? Since the skin can be from a donor or somewhere on your body for the skin graft, I read that this section never grows nerves or blood vessels - this would lead me to assume the outer skin would never have feeling, is this correct?
My one more concern is proportion, I see they don't do the head of the penis, so if you have a thick shaft and a small head, doesn't it look a bit out of proportion?
The final thing is forskin - I notice you have the chop (so to speak) looking at this operation I would also have to have it?
Thanks alot for your input and I hope you can help me come to a decision on this.
Oh, and non girth related - your length, was this done by cutting the suspension ligament or was it something else?
Cheers
Posts: 26
10-21-2010, 08:01 AM
Post #62
bohm
bohm
View Public Profile
Send a private message to bohm
Find all posts by bohm
Add bohm to Your Buddy List
View bohm's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Canada
Surprisingly, I believe there are surgeries even for the glans (head). Here's just one of quite a few:
Human glans penis augmentation using injectable hyaluronic acid gel. Kim JJ, Kwak TI, Jeon BG, Cheon J, Moon DG.
Department of Urology, Korea University College of Medicine, Anam-dong, Sungbuk-ku, Seoul, Korea.
Abstract
Although augmentation phalloplasty is not an established procedure, some patients still need enlargement of their penis. Current penile augmentation is girth enhancement of penile body by dermofat graft. We performed this study to identify the efficacy and the patient's satisfaction of human glans penis augmentation with injectable hyaluronic acid gel. In 100 patients of subjective small penis (Group I) and 87 patients of small glans after dermofat graft (Group II), 2 cm(3) of hyaluronic acid gel was injected into the glans penis, subcutaneously. At 1 y after injection, changes of glandular diameter were measured by tapeline. Patient's visual estimation of glandular size (Gr 0-4) and patient's satisfaction (Grade (Gr) 0-4) were evaluated, respectively. Any adverse reactions were also evaluated. The mean age of patients was 42.2 (30-70) y in Group I and 42.13 (28-61) y in Group II. The maximal glandular circumference was significantly increased compared to basal circumference of 9.13+/-0.64 cm in Group I (P<0.01) and 9.49+/-1.05 cm in Group II (P<0.01) at 1 y after injection. Net increase of maximal glandular circumference after glans augmentation was 14.93+/-0.80 mm in Group I and 14.78+/-0.89 mm in Group II. In patient's visual estimation, more than 50% of injected volume was maintained in 95% of Group 1 and 100% of Group II. The percentage of postoperative satisfaction (Gr 4, 5) was 77% in Group 1 and 69% in Group II. There was no abnormal reaction in area feeling, texture, and color. In most cases, initial discoloration by glandular swelling recovered to normal within 2 weeks. There were no signs of inflammation and no serious adverse reactions in all cases. These results suggest that injectable hyaluronic acid gel is a safe and effective material for augmentation of glans penis.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20233296
__________________
Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)
Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)
Posts: 1,384
10-21-2010, 11:36 AM
Post #63
man-of-10
man-of-10
View Public Profile
Send a private message to man-of-10
Find all posts by man-of-10
Add man-of-10 to Your Buddy List
View man-of-10's PE Statistics
Moderator
Forum Donator
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Ireland
^That's actually pretty sweet. I can see myself many years down the line getting an operation like this to add a mushroom head to my future 6" girth .
__________________
Decemeber 2007: 5.8" BPEL x 4.9" MSEG
Current:-------->7.7" BPEL x 5.7" MSEG (7.2" NBPEL)
Current Goal:--->7.6" BPEL X 5.8" MSEG Do or do not, there is no "try". www.pe-sites.com/examples1.htm
Posts: 2,351
10-21-2010, 03:30 PM
Post #64
kubchaser
kubchaser
View Public Profile
Send a private message to kubchaser
Find all posts by kubchaser
Add kubchaser to Your Buddy List
View kubchaser's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Canada
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soma
Ok, so I just went past two weeks and I seem to be healing well. I posting a slight chub photo, meaning I have just a little blood flow. I am very happy with the girth so far and am looking forward to next week where I think I'll stop taking the "no boner pills"!!
Impressive flaccid hang..
Darn you make me want the surgery too!
__________________
(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG (Sep 24, 2010) 5.94" BPEL x 5.11" EG (Oct 17, 2010) 6.10" BPEL x 5.11" EG / 6.41" BPFSL
"kubchaser" progress report: determined! (for progress/pics)
Goal: 8" (20.32 cm) long / 6" (15.24 cm) thick
Posts: 771
10-21-2010, 03:56 PM
Post #65
kubchaser
kubchaser
View Public Profile
Send a private message to kubchaser
Find all posts by kubchaser
Add kubchaser to Your Buddy List
View kubchaser's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Canada
Quote:
Originally Posted by bohm
Surprisingly, I believe there are surgeries even for the glans (head). Here's just one of quite a few:
Human glans penis augmentation using injectable hyaluronic acid gel. Kim JJ, Kwak TI, Jeon BG, Cheon J, Moon DG.
Department of Urology, Korea University College of Medicine, Anam-dong, Sungbuk-ku, Seoul, Korea.
Abstract
Although augmentation phalloplasty is not an established procedure, some patients still need enlargement of their penis. Current penile augmentation is girth enhancement of penile body by dermofat graft. We performed this study to identify the efficacy and the patient's satisfaction of human glans penis augmentation with injectable hyaluronic acid gel. In 100 patients of subjective small penis (Group I) and 87 patients of small glans after dermofat graft (Group II), 2 cm(3) of hyaluronic acid gel was injected into the glans penis, subcutaneously. At 1 y after injection, changes of glandular diameter were measured by tapeline. Patient's visual estimation of glandular size (Gr 0-4) and patient's satisfaction (Grade (Gr) 0-4) were evaluated, respectively. Any adverse reactions were also evaluated. The mean age of patients was 42.2 (30-70) y in Group I and 42.13 (28-61) y in Group II. The maximal glandular circumference was significantly increased compared to basal circumference of 9.13+/-0.64 cm in Group I (P<0.01) and 9.49+/-1.05 cm in Group II (P<0.01) at 1 y after injection. Net increase of maximal glandular circumference after glans augmentation was 14.93+/-0.80 mm in Group I and 14.78+/-0.89 mm in Group II. In patient's visual estimation, more than 50% of injected volume was maintained in 95% of Group 1 and 100% of Group II. The percentage of postoperative satisfaction (Gr 4, 5) was 77% in Group 1 and 69% in Group II. There was no abnormal reaction in area feeling, texture, and color. In most cases, initial discoloration by glandular swelling recovered to normal within 2 weeks. There were no signs of inflammation and no serious adverse reactions in all cases. These results suggest that injectable hyaluronic acid gel is a safe and effective material for augmentation of glans penis.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20233296
Tempting to try this too! Darn..
__________________
(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG (Sep 24, 2010) 5.94" BPEL x 5.11" EG (Oct 17, 2010) 6.10" BPEL x 5.11" EG / 6.41" BPFSL
"kubchaser" progress report: determined! (for progress/pics)
Goal: 8" (20.32 cm) long / 6" (15.24 cm) thick
Posts: 771
10-21-2010, 06:34 PM
Post #66
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
4wheeler,
You should really talk to a doc~ Just saying...here's my take on your questions:
The body does grow a blood supply and eventual supplant the Belladerm with your own tissue (I'm not sure how long this takes), not sure about nerves, but the nerves we sense with are mostly located in the skin and are still intact. I believe what I'm experiencing is due to how stretched the skin is (it is still very tight). Growing blood supplies and supplanting tissue happens in many surgeries. I had an ACL done ten years ago with a cadaver tendon and my body supplanted the tissue. For length, I did have my ligs snipped but don't expect to realize the gains from that until I can start hanging (6 week post op I can begin). For the head, they just inject something like juviderm. It only last a year so I didn't bother. Plus, I had a good size head to begin with, and I'm pretty sure I'll look proportional with a full erection.
Posts: 66
10-21-2010, 06:50 PM
Post #67
UkranianTitan
UkranianTitan
View Public Profile
Send a private message to UkranianTitan
Find all posts by UkranianTitan
Add UkranianTitan to Your Buddy List
View UkranianTitan's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Soma, I don't know if anyone has asked this, but can you list your Before Girth (flaccid and erect) as well as after?
Posts: 473
10-21-2010, 06:52 PM
Post #68
baywatch
baywatch
View Public Profile
Send a private message to baywatch
Find all posts by baywatch
Add baywatch to Your Buddy List
View baywatch's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North East
Soma, your junk looks awesome in that last post op pic!
Just wanted to remind people that I am I think 3 years now post lengthening surgery and 2 and 1 year post widening surgery (2 procedures as prescribed).
Not one bad or negative side effect. Results still holding up strong. Dick works great. Not one woman has ever speculated I've had a doctors help down there.
Who knows, Soma, maybe its just you and me brother on the positive side of surgery. All the best. Don't forget you've got a lot of work (hanging) ahead of you to get NBPEL!!
Posts: 1,084
10-21-2010, 07:29 PM
Post #69
Sultan
Sultan
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Sultan
Find all posts by Sultan
Add Sultan to Your Buddy List
View Sultan's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: United Strokes of America
Glad to hear you're healing well, Soma, hope you recover with desired results.
baywatch, after you got your ligs snipped how satisfied where you with your flaccid length gains (before you began post op hanging)? Once you began post op hanging what do it do for your flaccid length? How long after you began post op hanging did you see these results? Where there any noticeable erect gains? Thanks.
Posts: 562
10-21-2010, 07:41 PM
Post #70
prefontaine1973
prefontaine1973
View Public Profile
Send a private message to prefontaine1973
Find all posts by prefontaine1973
Add prefontaine1973 to Your Buddy List
View prefontaine1973's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: NC
Quote:
Originally Posted by baywatch
Soma, your junk looks awesome in that last post op pic!
Just wanted to remind people that I am I think 3 years now post lengthening surgery and 2 and 1 year post widening surgery (2 procedures as prescribed).
Not one bad or negative side effect. Results still holding up strong. Dick works great. Not one woman has ever speculated I've had a doctors help down there.
Who knows, Soma, maybe it's just you and me brother on the positive side of surgery. All the best. Don't forget you've got a lot of work (hanging) ahead of you to get NBPEL!!
Baywatch, who did your surgery?
Posts: 41
10-21-2010, 09:50 PM
Post #71
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Hi Baywatch,
Good to hear you had a positive outcome! I'm curious, what did you end up with for erect length gains?
Pre,
Pre op flaccid girth was 4 and length was around 4-4.5 (this one can be pretty subjective so I don't want to tought gains until I can pull on it and measure but I'm hanging at 5 or bigger always now).
Posts: 66
10-21-2010, 10:01 PM
Post #72
baywatch
baywatch
View Public Profile
Send a private message to baywatch
Find all posts by baywatch
Add baywatch to Your Buddy List
View baywatch's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North East
Quote:
Originally Posted by prefontaine1973
Baywatch, who did your surgery?
Dr. Alter did my lengthening. He's doctor 90210 from the cable show. He's hands down the safe bet. He's got impeccable credentials. I promise you will not hear any bad stories about his work. That in and of itself is what drove me him.
Dr. Giunta did my widening. I picked him because he's by far got FFT down to a science. I went with FFT because I felt it was the safest filler and I still believe that it is. I am ecstatic about my results. The real world value I got from the widening dwarfs the value I got from the lengthening.
Posts: 1,084
10-21-2010, 10:14 PM
Post #73
baywatch
baywatch
View Public Profile
Send a private message to baywatch
Find all posts by baywatch
Add baywatch to Your Buddy List
View baywatch's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North East
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sultan
baywatch, after you got your ligs snipped how satisfied where you with your flaccid length gains (before you began post op hanging)?
Not satisfied at all! I had no flaccid gain. In fact I felt like I was in a quasi turtling state all the time. All my gains cam from the post op stretching.
After much deliberation and some very vague feedback I got from my widening surgeon I suspect Dr. Alter did a conservative cut of my ligs and that's why my post op gains only came as the result of stretching. Like I said before, Alter is the safe bet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sultan
Once you began post op hanging what do it do for your flaccid length? How long after you began post op hanging did you see these results? Where there any noticeable erect gains? Thanks.
I really can't remember other than is was a very long and slow process that was at least 7 months of work, which included very dedicated hanging to the point where my life revolved around hanging.
Yes the got erect length gains. That was all I tracked along the way and cared about. I also got flaccid gains.
[/QUOTE]
Posts: 1,084
10-21-2010, 10:20 PM
Post #74
baywatch
baywatch
View Public Profile
Send a private message to baywatch
Find all posts by baywatch
Add baywatch to Your Buddy List
View baywatch's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North East
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soma
Hi Baywatch,
Good to hear you had a positive outcome! I'm curious, what did you end up with for erect length gains?
I got 3/4" NBPEL gain. I still PE to this day, R years later, but have yet to get me a full inch.
I got either 1.5" or 2" of flaccid length gain. I can't remember. I thought this gain was pretty good. Interesting how it doesn't correlate much to EL gains, huh?
Posts: 1,084
10-21-2010, 10:20 PM
Post #75
baywatch
baywatch
View Public Profile
Send a private message to baywatch
Find all posts by baywatch
Add baywatch to Your Buddy List
View baywatch's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North East
Oops! R years late should be 3 years later!!
Baywatch,
Thanks bro! Glad to hear you got erect gains. And I agree with you, the flaccid measurements are a bit "soft" (pun intended), however, I definately have some right off the bat. I also agree that the girth is the more valuable result. How much girth did you gain with the FFT total?
Posts: 66
10-22-2010, 09:42 AM
Post #77
baywatch
baywatch
View Public Profile
Send a private message to baywatch
Find all posts by baywatch
Add baywatch to Your Buddy List
View baywatch's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North East
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soma
How much girth did you gain with the FFT total?
By design (choice) I gained 3/4" MSEG to get to a bit more than 5.75". My dick widens from mid to base, to 6". I did not want to gain any more girth. I was afraid I'd be to big if you can believe that. The reality is; however, no woman has ever had a hard time taking me. Thankfully most if not all I've had at my new size have stated I have a big dick I even got a resounding "wow, your girth is exceptional" from a ONS girl who had been around the block and had no reason the say what she said. Guess that's one data point supporting my girth as the exception and not the rule.
Posts: 1,084
10-22-2010, 11:07 AM
Post #78
4wheeler
4wheeler
View Public Profile
Send a private message to 4wheeler
Find all posts by 4wheeler
Add 4wheeler to Your Buddy List
View 4wheeler's PE Statistics
New Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: UK
My ideal would be around 7 girth at the base(current 5).
Do you need to have the forskin removed on this operation?
Posts: 26
I'm going to try to move this over from Thunders Place as only members over there can see it. I'll be adding photo's as well. Next month will be 6 months post op and I'll add newer photos.
Not sure how this is going to work but here goes:
Ok, so there's more exposition in the surgery mini forum, but basically I had surgery on Tuesday October 5th with Dr R. Belladerm and lig release. I'm no way near healed however I said I'd post pics along the way, so here some before and after pics:
Posts: 66
10-08-2010, 11:27 AM
Post #2
e211
e211
View Public Profile
Send a private message to e211
Find all posts by e211
Add e211 to Your Buddy List
View e211's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ca
I don't see any pics yet I gues they haven't been released by a moderator yet. This would be very interesting to see your progress with before and after pics. I'm wondering what your pre PE stats were, how far you got with PE and what are you expecting to be after the surgery? Do you have a significant other and if so do they support this?
Posts: 335
10-08-2010, 12:09 PM
Post #3
firegoat
firegoat
View Public Profile
Send a private message to firegoat
Find all posts by firegoat
Add firegoat to Your Buddy List
View firegoat's PE Statistics
Moderator
Forum Donator
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: England. Ooop in't North.
No sign of any pics. Please could you upload them again. Thanks.
__________________
www.sexhealthreview.com/ThunderSPlace.html
Posts: 6,625
10-08-2010, 12:39 PM
Post #4
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Ok, so I gained about an inch with PE over the years, most of which was by hanging back in the early 2000's. At first I used the homemade Hubbord devices and ended up with a BIB prototype. I uploaded pic but it said they had to be approved first?? I'll try again, and remember these are just a couple days post op. As my body integrates the belladerm I expect better asthetics, plus the bruising should go away.
Posts: 66
10-08-2010, 12:45 PM
Post #5
ironaddict69
ironaddict69
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ironaddict69
Find all posts by ironaddict69
Add ironaddict69 to Your Buddy List
View ironaddict69's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
Still don't see any waiting to be approved. You sure you know how to upload them? I am pretty anxious as I have wanted the length surgery for a year now.
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-08-2010, 12:52 PM
Post #6
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Ok this is a little frustrating. I think the pics were too large, but when I go to edit them it says I don't have permission. I'm sure it's just my lack of experience....trying again:
Posts: 66
10-08-2010, 01:04 PM
Post #7
ironaddict69
ironaddict69
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ironaddict69
Find all posts by ironaddict69
Add ironaddict69 to Your Buddy List
View ironaddict69's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
You have to resize them on your computer first, and then upload and post them.
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-08-2010, 01:12 PM
Post #8
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Thanks~ I'm working on it!
Posts: 66
10-08-2010, 01:22 PM
Post #9
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Think I'm through with my technical challenges so here goes again. There is no post op erect yet:
Attached Images
preop flaccid no chub.JPG (23.1 KB, 2969 views)
preop very flaccid no chub.JPG (21.3 KB, 2437 views)
3days post flaccid no chub.JPG (24.8 KB, 2645 views)
3 day post op flaccid no chub.JPG (22.1 KB, 2856 views)
pre op erect.JPG (19.8 KB, 3089 views)
Posts: 66
10-08-2010, 01:40 PM
Post #10
chad993
chad993
View Public Profile
Send a private message to chad993
Find all posts by chad993
Add chad993 to Your Buddy List
View chad993's PE Statistics
New Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Wisconsin
Keep us posted
Posts: 1
10-08-2010, 03:03 PM
Post #11
ironaddict69
ironaddict69
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ironaddict69
Find all posts by ironaddict69
Add ironaddict69 to Your Buddy List
View ironaddict69's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
First off, NICE fucking quads man, I am a power lifter myself what's your weight at currently?
Second, you are already packing there man you are going to be fucking large after you start stretching and hanging, which by the way you need to do both! Just remember start out VERY light after the length surgery, I believe 1-2 lbs being plenty. Do you have a hanger and an ADS yet? Remember the post op length traction is critical to not only success, but not ending up SHORTER.
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-08-2010, 03:16 PM
Post #12
ThunderSS
ThunderSS
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ThunderSS
Visit ThunderSS's homepage!
Find all posts by ThunderSS
Add ThunderSS to Your Buddy List
View ThunderSS's PE Statistics
Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Land of the Ill-informed
When did you have the surgery Soma?
__________________
This place runs on donations, help out if you can. Thanks.
www.1inch100days.com/
Posts: 46,325
10-08-2010, 03:17 PM
Post #13
PErsian
PErsian
View Public Profile
Send a private message to PErsian
Send email to PErsian
Find all posts by PErsian
Add PErsian to Your Buddy List
View PErsian's PE Statistics
Moderator
Forum Subscriber
Join Date: Mar 2003
Hold on a sec, you said you were 6.5 x 5 pre-op? Is that 6.5 N or B? That last pic looks minimum 7.25B x 5.5 with a 6.25 Base, way bigger then what you stated.
__________________
Now: NBPEL = 6.4 MSEG = 5.3 BEG = 5.75
Goals: NBPEL = 7.0 MSEG = 6.0
www.sexhealthreview.com/ThunderSPlace.html
Posts: 590
10-08-2010, 03:19 PM
Post #14
PErsian
PErsian
View Public Profile
Send a private message to PErsian
Send email to PErsian
Find all posts by PErsian
Add PErsian to Your Buddy List
View PErsian's PE Statistics
Moderator
Forum Subscriber
Join Date: Mar 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThunderSS
When did you have the surgery Soma?
From his posts he said on the 5th, in the morning.
__________________
Now: NBPEL = 6.4 MSEG = 5.3 BEG = 5.75
Goals: NBPEL = 7.0 MSEG = 6.0
www.sexhealthreview.com/ThunderSPlace.html
Posts: 590
10-08-2010, 03:32 PM
Post #15
bohm
bohm
View Public Profile
Send a private message to bohm
Find all posts by bohm
Add bohm to Your Buddy List
View bohm's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Canada
Quote:
Originally Posted by persian
Hold on a sec, you said you were 6.5 x 5 pre-op? Is that 6.5 N or B? That last pic looks minimum 7.25B x 5.5 with a 6.25 Base, way bigger then what you stated.
He said, "Erect measurements are 6.75 x 5.0". He looks bigger.
Soma - Surgical Penis Enlargement Mini Forum ~ Penis surgery
__________________
Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)
Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)
Posts: 1,384
6.75 NBP for sure, looks like a legit 7 incher, not a skinny one either he was definitely one of the larger guys the doc operated on I am assuming.
How long were you doing normal PE before you took the surgery plunge man?
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-08-2010, 06:12 PM
Post #17
mafero
mafero
View Public Profile
Send a private message to mafero
Send email to mafero
Find all posts by mafero
Add mafero to Your Buddy List
View mafero's PE Statistics
Moderator
Forum Donator
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: New York
I would like to see a post-op erection pic, just to see how the angle of erection changed.
__________________
Mafero
Penemanual.com nos está robando
Posts: 3,153
10-08-2010, 06:45 PM
Post #18
17ml
17ml
View Public Profile
Send a private message to 17ml
Find all posts by 17ml
Add 17ml to Your Buddy List
View 17ml's PE Statistics
Ex Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: May 2009
Location: North London
Soma, were you told that your BPEL would also be bigger post op? Just because most people who offer the procedure usually mention that it might not, and is mostly for flaccid gains, and of course if you have girth treatment, the girth.
__________________
Start 6.5 bpel 5.75 eg Current bpel 7.0 eg 6.75 (7.0eg base) Goal bpel 7.25 eg 7.0 mid shaft
Progress routine and pics/vidshttp://www.sexhealthreview.com/ThunderSPlace.html
Posts: 1,143
10-08-2010, 07:11 PM
Post #19
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
I'll be glad to post a post op erection pic as soon as I can, as I'm really curious (and hopeful).
Regarding my pre-ops length:
I posted 6.75 x 5. It was bone pressed but not wicked hard as I see in some measurement pictures. I could get a flaccid bone pressed stretch out past 7 1/4, but erect was really only 6.75. Maybe if I pressed harder I would've measured longer~ The girth was definitely 5 mid shaft.
Regarding erect gains post op:
I was NOT told post op erect length would immediately manifest. However, as has been discussed at length in various forums when you add volume (belladerm girth) you sacrifice length because of the finite elasticity of the skin. This is simple physics. After healing, you begin a weight hanging routine to increase this capacity and to advance/stretch the penis without the constraint of the suspensory ligaments. Only after a diligent weight hanging routine that increases this capacity did Dr. R tell me that I would realize the erect gains I wanted (1 inch). Weight hanging was the only lengthening PE that I ever tried that resulted in my erect gains. So for me this resonates as true; as you increase the constraint on total volume, your potential gain increases. How much do the ligs constrain the advancement of the penis, and/or amount amount of penis available to stretch? Time will tell in my case.
Posts: 66
10-08-2010, 07:58 PM
Post #20
Audacia
Audacia
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Audacia
Find all posts by Audacia
Add Audacia to Your Buddy List
View Audacia's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Making her tremble!
Quote:
Originally Posted by mafero
I would like to see a post-op erection pic, just to see how the angle of erection changed.
Me too, his starting erection size looks impressive.
Oh and Soma, be careful if you're going to hang. I'm not 100% sure but I believe the surgery girth gains came from putting a material inside the unit which eventually degrades to become a part of the tissue. If that's the case then the material would not be lower down in your dick.
Therefore if you get enough length gains from hanging the girth at the base could in theory be the same girth as before the surgery (a baseball bat effect). Anyway just consider that first.
I'm still baffled you chose surgery when PE is so effective on it's own. I hope for you, that you get good results.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlWhoTrembles
Audacia, OMGOMGOMGOGMGOMGOMG! *Eyes roll back in head and collapses with bliss*
Hey! YOU! Yes you! Everytime you read this wish Audacia Awesome Luck on Growing his MONSTER COCK!
Posts: 2,365
10-08-2010, 09:01 PM
Post #21
Dino9X7
Dino9X7
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Dino9X7
Find all posts by Dino9X7
Add Dino9X7 to Your Buddy List
View Dino9X7's PE Statistics
Moderator Alumni
Forum Donator
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NY
Soma
If someone from the forum decides to get the operation do you get anything? I know with some of the other guys that had surgery they would get a commission if they brought in a referral. I don't mean to insult your character but I just wanted our members aware that this practice sometimes happens. With that said I honestly wish you the best and a speedy recovery and hope you get your inch.
__________________
I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)
www.sexhealthreview.com/ThunderSPlace.htmlhttp://www.1inch100days.com/
Posts: 20,149
10-09-2010, 12:59 AM
Post #22
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
ummm, no~ and not interested. I only hope I end up with a good outcome.
Posts: 66
10-09-2010, 04:44 AM
Post #23
Sultan
Sultan
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Sultan
Find all posts by Sultan
Add Sultan to Your Buddy List
View Sultan's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: United Strokes of America
I'll be following your progress, Soma. When I have the extra cash I'm going to consider getting my ligs snipped; probably after I graduate in a few years. The girth enhancement is too risky for me but I will be observing how the lig snip works out for you.
I really appreciate you documenting your journey on TP. You're doing a big service for those of us who are still curious about the process of lengthening the penis with snipped ligs.
Posts: 562
10-09-2010, 11:53 AM
Post #24
ironaddict69
ironaddict69
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ironaddict69
Find all posts by ironaddict69
Add ironaddict69 to Your Buddy List
View ironaddict69's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
Yeah the lig snip seems not very intrusive and very safe in my eyes, the girth surgery seems to be where problems arise.
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-09-2010, 12:44 PM
Post #25
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Audacia,
My decision was years in the making, AND after successful gains and countless hours using with non-surgical PE techniques. It was really the permanent girth increases available today with belladerm that finally convinced me.
As far as hanging afterwards and the potential for a "baseball bat" like effect, I think the techniques Dr R employs compensates for this potential outcome. First, my base is wider to begin with, and feels even wider in the "unadvanced" portion, at least as far as I could tell pre-surgery. Second, I believe and feel that their is Belladerm placed very deeply on the shaft. I think (because I didn't ask) that it is placed their for the exact reason that you surfaced, so that when you begin to advance/stretch you don't end up with a asymmetrical cock. We will see. Also, if I'm wrong and end up with a baseball bat penis...well that doesn't sound horrible :-)
Posts: 66
10-09-2010, 06:41 PM
Post #26
ironaddict69
ironaddict69
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ironaddict69
Find all posts by ironaddict69
Add ironaddict69 to Your Buddy List
View ironaddict69's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
Baseball bat dicks are better than cone's from my opinion, being the owner of a pretty tapered shaft myself, I would rather have the bat effect. I wouldn't worry too much about it. When can you begin traction? I was told light ADS use should begin immediately? I wouldn't wait too long my man.
If you don't mind I am sure we would all love more details on which incision technique they used, if they completely cut your ligs or just re-attached them lower etc. Seems to be way too many different techniques used nowadays.
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-09-2010, 08:02 PM
Post #27
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
One incision slightly wider than the base of the penis slightly superior on the abdominal side, as should be evident from the pics. Once the hole from the drain is completely closed I will take a photo without the bandage. Also, I believe he removes the ligs from the pubic bone completely and puts some fat in between while healing to inhibit any scar tissue adhesions.
No traction for 6 weeks~ doctors orders and I'll follow them. At six weeks I'll beging hanging weights with the grip.
Posts: 66
10-09-2010, 08:12 PM
Post #28
marinera
marinera
View Public Profile
Send a private message to marinera
Send email to marinera
Find all posts by marinera
Add marinera to Your Buddy List
View marinera's Favorites
View marinera's PE Statistics
Moderator Alumni
Forum Donator
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: italy
What kind of hanger are they planning to use on you? A commercial one? A Bib, a vac-type, what?
__________________
Mine is growing .
Stay away from junk sellers!
Posts: 13,380
10-09-2010, 08:41 PM
Post #29
Audacia
Audacia
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Audacia
Find all posts by Audacia
Add Audacia to Your Buddy List
View Audacia's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Making her tremble!
Haha I really doubt they'd have a bib for him. Actually I'm a little shocked they'd recommend hanging. Usually didn't they just give out an ADS?
I wonder how much the ligament heals after 6 weeks though. I personally would never consider having surgery unless PE just did not work at all but it has and will continue too. Still I'm intrigued by this none the less.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlWhoTrembles
Audacia, OMGOMGOMGOGMGOMGOMG! *Eyes roll back in head and collapses with bliss*
Hey! YOU! Yes you! Everytime you read this wish Audacia Awesome Luck on Growing his MONSTER COCK!
Posts: 2,365
10-09-2010, 09:33 PM
Post #30
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
I owned two different bib hangers. Actually I still own them just don't use them; one was a prototype when he was designing it and one was the completed product. Yes, I was one of test subjects who provided feedback to Bib when he was designing them. They were the comfortable side of the clamp concept. I have been using a x4labs extender product for the last ten months with more comfort but slow gains.
The hanger he (Dr) recommends is the Grip, as I mentioned in my last post. He likes that because of the comfort and ability to hang enough weight to cause advancement and skin stretching (6lbs + is required according to the good MD). I don't think he has anything to do with the company and there are other types of these products (wasn't one invented by a guy on this site?). It is a vacuum concept hanger/ADS, and I have never tried these type but hope they offer better comfort.
He is pretty confident that once he removes the ligs they don't re-attach, and he also places fat there to inhibit scar tissue adhesions (scar tissue is scary). He indicates this happens more frequently in higher body fat patients.
Good luck buddy, did you add me on messenger?
Also whats a grip hanger?
__________________
Start 6.5 bpel 5.75 eg Current bpel 7.0 eg 6.75 (7.0eg base) Goal bpel 7.25 eg 7.0 mid shaft
Progress routine and pics/vidshttp://www.sexhealthreview.com/ThunderSPlace.html
Posts: 1,143
10-10-2010, 11:42 AM
Post #32
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Iron,
Just noticed your comment on my thighs, thanks bro. I was a power lifter in a different chapter of my life. I've had to many knee surgeries to mess with REAL heavy weights any more, but I still do a lot of functional training like crossfit, steel program etc. Doing NOTHING for a couple more weeks :-( but I'm sure it'll be worth it in the end.
17,
I'm downloading messenger now and will add you asap. Also, just do a Google search for the Grip system and I'm sure you'll find it. The doc says he likes this one but say there are others that I could choose from. He definitely likes the vacuum type though.
Yardstick (if your out there),
Man, does this thing ache at night. 10 days can't get here soon enough!
Posts: 66
10-10-2010, 03:15 PM
Post #33
Sultan
Sultan
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Sultan
Find all posts by Sultan
Add Sultan to Your Buddy List
View Sultan's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: United Strokes of America
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soma
Man, does this thing ache at night. 10 days can't get here soon enough!
Is the 10 day mark when the pain should begin to wear off?
Posts: 562
10-10-2010, 07:56 PM
Post #34
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
I think between 10-14 according to what I've read from others~
Posts: 66
10-10-2010, 08:59 PM
Post #35
brace
brace
View Public Profile
Send a private message to brace
Find all posts by brace
Add brace to Your Buddy List
View brace's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: florida
How expensive was the surgery? It looks like you were already pretty well equiped. Good luck with your gains!
Posts: 44
10-10-2010, 11:00 PM
Post #36
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
10.5k
Posts: 66
10-12-2010, 09:17 AM
Post #37
UM1991
UM1991
View Public Profile
Send a private message to UM1991
Find all posts by UM1991
Add UM1991 to Your Buddy List
View UM1991's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: United States
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soma
10.5k
Ouch!
Posts: 835
10-12-2010, 04:11 PM
Post #38
ironaddict69
ironaddict69
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ironaddict69
Find all posts by ironaddict69
Add ironaddict69 to Your Buddy List
View ironaddict69's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
Doing girth and length in one surgery is expensive. I think I remember having just the length done was a LOT cheaper since it is so much easier. But yeah these doctors are overcharging and making a killing, it is like how viagra's are 10$ at the pharmacy.
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-12-2010, 06:51 PM
Post #39
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
I agree, 10.5k is nothing to sneeze at, but at the same time and assuming my outcome is good (it is permanent) the cost compared to how much enjoyment I intend to get from it (and give with it!) is worth it to me. I think of all the doodads I could've bought with that money but don't find one that I think I'll enjoy as much, and for as long as a big fat dick.
Iron,
Btw, the lengthening was a drop in the bucket (2k I think) compared to the Belladerm (8.5k). It is cheaper to have them done together as you don't need to pay an anesthesiologist twice. I was actually mostly interested in the Belladerm widening and would not have paid much more for the lengthening.
Posts: 66
10-12-2010, 10:22 PM
Post #40
ironaddict69
ironaddict69
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ironaddict69
Find all posts by ironaddict69
Add ironaddict69 to Your Buddy List
View ironaddict69's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
Wow the lengthening is only 2k! Wow!
I don't even have 2k to spend but someday I definitely think I would look into that.
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-13-2010, 01:02 PM
Post #41
Sultan
Sultan
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Sultan
Find all posts by Sultan
Add Sultan to Your Buddy List
View Sultan's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: United Strokes of America
Only two grand? My goodness I was under the impression the snip would cost at least twice that, maybe more. I only have one penis so if I had to pay 5 grand for top notch quality I would (because to fix a hack job would cost way more!); but two grand is well within reach for me not to consider it.
Posts: 562
10-15-2010, 01:16 AM
Post #42
jb560
jb560
View Public Profile
Send a private message to jb560
Find all posts by jb560
Add jb560 to Your Buddy List
View jb560's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Subscriber
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Southern Born
The widening interests me.
__________________
Then 01/15/08 EBPL: 6.25 EG 5.10 Now 10/05/09 EBPL 7.75 EG 5.25 Girth work for 103 days.
New Short Term Goal: EBPL 8.0 EG 5.5 Lifetime goal 9x6.5 PE log and journal
Posts: 2,491
10-15-2010, 02:11 AM
Post #43
ironaddict69
ironaddict69
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ironaddict69
Find all posts by ironaddict69
Add ironaddict69 to Your Buddy List
View ironaddict69's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
Quote:
Originally Posted by jb560
The widening interests me.
Can you not gain girth from regular exercises?
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-15-2010, 02:48 PM
Post #44
jb560
jb560
View Public Profile
Send a private message to jb560
Find all posts by jb560
Add jb560 to Your Buddy List
View jb560's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Subscriber
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Southern Born
Quote:
Originally Posted by ironaddict69
Can you not gain girth from regular exercises?
The discoloration is so bad that my girlfriend actually got distracted by it and it pretty embarrassing. So until I can find a way to get rid of the discoloration, I won't do any more girth work. Since I won't do any more girth work, the widening interests me greatly.
__________________
Then 01/15/08 EBPL: 6.25 EG 5.10 Now 10/05/09 EBPL 7.75 EG 5.25 Girth work for 103 days.
New Short Term Goal: EBPL 8.0 EG 5.5 Lifetime goal 9x6.5 PE log and journal
Posts: 2,491
10-15-2010, 03:04 PM
Post #45
kubchaser
kubchaser
View Public Profile
Send a private message to kubchaser
Find all posts by kubchaser
Add kubchaser to Your Buddy List
View kubchaser's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Canada
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soma
10.5k
Man the result is unbelievable!
So how much length do you get from "lig release" now? Does that affect your erection length?
Your flaccid hang is huge comparing to before operation.
Your pre-op erection picture looks huge already.
Can you take some pictures of post-op erection pics? I wonder how much gain would that be.
__________________
(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG (Sep 24, 2010) 5.94" BPEL x 5.11" EG (Oct 17, 2010) 6.10" BPEL x 5.11" EG / 6.41" BPFSL
"kubchaser" progress report: determined! (for progress/pics)
Goal: 8" (20.32 cm) long / 6" (15.24 cm) thick
________________________________________
Last edited by kubchaser : 10-15-2010 at 03:10 PM.
Soma, I am interested to hear the state of your recovery. Please keep posting.
Posts: 20
10-15-2010, 03:09 PM
Post #47
matutinal_euphony
matutinal_euphony
View Public Profile
Send a private message to matutinal_euphony
Find all posts by matutinal_euphony
Add matutinal_euphony to Your Buddy List
View matutinal_euphony's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: north carolina
How bout a post-op erection?
__________________
Dick hang low
*** HEY www.sexhealthreview.com/ThunderSPlace.html FUCK YOU ***
Posts: 2,025
10-15-2010, 06:23 PM
Post #48
ironaddict69
ironaddict69
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ironaddict69
Find all posts by ironaddict69
Add ironaddict69 to Your Buddy List
View ironaddict69's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
Quote:
Originally Posted by jb560
The discoloration is so bad that my girlfriend actually got distracted by it and it pretty embarrassing. So until I can find a way to get rid of the discoloration, I won't do any more girth work. Since I won't do any more girth work, the widening interests me greatly.
Even from light clamping? What about jelqing or pumping?
Back to topic, to Soma, what are your flaccid stats now?
__________________
Bpel=8" Bg=7.25" Mseg=6.5"
Posts: 2,566
10-15-2010, 10:25 PM
Post #49
Audacia
Audacia
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Audacia
Find all posts by Audacia
Add Audacia to Your Buddy List
View Audacia's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Making her tremble!
Jb just clamp for less time, clamp not so tight. Do firegoat rolls and do light jelqing after. There are ways to avoid or lessen discolouration greatly. Not to mention wearing a condom whilst clamping. The pressure if the condom tight against the skin prevents capillaries from bursting which is what causes the discolouration I believe.
On topic: Post Op Erection! Post Op Erection! Post Op Erection! Post Op Erection!
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlWhoTrembles
Audacia, OMGOMGOMGOGMGOMGOMG! *Eyes roll back in head and collapses with bliss*
Hey! YOU! Yes you! Everytime you read this wish Audacia Awesome Luck on Growing his MONSTER COCK!
Posts: 2,365
10-16-2010, 12:52 PM
Post #50
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Hi All,
I won't post a "post op erect pic" for about 3 more weeks as I don't plan on working one up (pain), and I'm taking the "no boner" pills until 4 weeks post op. Healing is going well, although I'm still waiting for the drain hole to close and the pain to stop. I caught a cold from my kids 4 days post op and don't think that it helped my healing. I'm just feeling better from that today, and I'm seeing incremental improvements (penis) in coloration and sensation but am a few weeks, I think, from feeling ok. I worked/taught for about 8 hours yesterday and was really hurting towards the end and afterwards. However, I'm feeling pretty "ok" today.
Post op flaccid improvement are impressive. I'm 5 1/4 flaccid girth and usually hang at 5 1/4 too. I am looking forward to hanging because I sense that once I start that I'll be around 6 flaccid all the time. Often times I hang there now but the smallest I've measured is 5 1/4 so that what I'm going with.
Posts: 66
10-16-2010, 01:12 PM
Post #51
PErsian
PErsian
View Public Profile
Send a private message to PErsian
Send email to PErsian
Find all posts by PErsian
Add PErsian to Your Buddy List
View PErsian's PE Statistics
Moderator
Forum Subscriber
Join Date: Mar 2003
How is the sensitivity on the shaft, does the girth implant still feel foreign or has it been integrating with your shaft.
And thank you for your very descriptive and precise updates. Keep them coming my friend. I can't wait to see the post-erection pics.
__________________
Now: NBPEL = 6.4 MSEG = 5.3 BEG = 5.75
Goals: NBPEL = 7.0 MSEG = 6.0
www.sexhealthreview.com/ThunderSPlace.html
Posts: 590
10-17-2010, 04:02 PM
Post #52
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
The feel of the Belladerm improves and feels more natural every day, so I think that my body is starting to integrate the tissue. The sensation is normal in the head, underside, and sides, however the top mid-shaft is a little numb. It is improving though and I'm still getting nerve sensation/zingers so I imagine that it's all still stretching and getting used to the new girth; I can see some very small stretch marks already. I had a scab develop under the head from some post op bruising. It has come off but the skin is still uncomfortable underneath. I'll be at two weeks post op on Tuesday and will report on my progress and post some more pictures then.
Posts: 66
10-20-2010, 05:59 PM
2 weeks post op pic Post #53
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Ok, so I just went past two weeks and I seem to be healing well. I posting a slight chub photo, meaning I have just a little blood flow. I am very happy with the girth so far and am looking forward to next week where I think I'll stop taking the "no boner pills"!!
Attached Images
2 weeks post op slight chub.jpg (19.1 KB, 932 views)
Posts: 66
10-20-2010, 06:32 PM
Post #54
hsarge
hsarge
View Public Profile
Send a private message to hsarge
Find all posts by hsarge
Add hsarge to Your Buddy List
View hsarge's PE Statistics
New Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PA
Congrats; it looks like you are healing well.
Posts: 20
Posts: 20
10-20-2010, 06:38 PM
Post #55
PErsian
PErsian
View Public Profile
Send a private message to PErsian
Send email to PErsian
Find all posts by PErsian
Add PErsian to Your Buddy List
View PErsian's PE Statistics
Moderator
Forum Subscriber
Join Date: Mar 2003
Hey Soma what did the Doctors say in-terms of how permanent the girth is? Thanks bud. Looking very good so far, congratulations
__________________
Now: NBPEL = 6.4 MSEG = 5.3 BEG = 5.75
Goals: NBPEL = 7.0 MSEG = 6.0
www.sexhealthreview.com/ThunderSPlace.html
Posts: 590
10-20-2010, 07:04 PM
Post #56
4wheeler
4wheeler
View Public Profile
Send a private message to 4wheeler
Find all posts by 4wheeler
Add 4wheeler to Your Buddy List
View 4wheeler's PE Statistics
New Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: UK
I'm really considering this op - Have you got some in depth details, the pros are obvious but what are the cons, success rate and side effects?
Thanks
________________________________________
Last edited by 4wheeler : 10-20-2010 at 07:09 PM.
Posts: 26
10-20-2010, 07:37 PM
Post #57
man-of-10
man-of-10
View Public Profile
Send a private message to man-of-10
Find all posts by man-of-10
Add man-of-10 to Your Buddy List
View man-of-10's PE Statistics
Moderator
Forum Donator
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Ireland
Interesting thread. I look forward to updates .
__________________
Decemeber 2007: 5.8" BPEL x 4.9" MSEG
Current:-------->7.7" BPEL x 5.7" MSEG (7.2" NBPEL)
Current Goal:--->7.6" BPEL X 5.8" MSEG Do or do not, there is no "try". www.pe-sites.com/examples1.htm
Posts: 2,351
10-20-2010, 08:52 PM
Post #58
prefontaine1973
prefontaine1973
View Public Profile
Send a private message to prefontaine1973
Find all posts by prefontaine1973
Add prefontaine1973 to Your Buddy List
View prefontaine1973's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: NC
It is awesome to see this! Congrats. I hope all goes well.
Posts: 41
10-20-2010, 09:34 PM
Post #59
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Doc said girth and length will increase as the skin stretches. So far I have an 1 1/4 inch increase in flaccid girth. I doubt this will exactly translate erect girth but time will tell. As far as risks, I suggest talking with a Doc, but remember they are selling this surgery. Dr R. was very open about the risks: infection, loss of sensation, skin sloughing (mostly in smokers), and a few others I remember him mentioning. I think i'm out of the wood as far as infection goes (but man, you have to take sponge baths for 3 weeks to help avoid this). I have a small numb spot top midshaft that should reslove over time. I think it will as I can tell my skin is really stretched right now. I had similar temporary numb spots from hanging, and they went away over time. He toughts a very low (almost 0) complication rate with his current techniques, however only he knows~ So far, everything he has told me has been spot on so I'm very happy with his integrity. Be advised though, this is no casual surgery.
Posts: 66
10-20-2010, 09:41 PM
Post #60
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Persian,
Doc said the girth IS permanent~
Posts: 66
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soma
Doc said girth and length will increase as the skin stretches. So far I have an 1 1/4 inch increase in flaccid girth. I doubt this will exactly translate erect girth but time will tell. As far as risks, I suggest talking with a Doc, but remember they are selling this surgery. Dr R. Was very open about the risks: infection, loss of sensation, skin sloughing (mostly in smokers), and a few others I remember him mentioning. I think I'm out of the wood as far as infection goes (but man, you have to take sponge baths for 3 weeks to help avoid this). I have a small numb spot top midshaft that should reslove over time. I think it will as I can tell my skin is really stretched right now. I had similar temporary numb spots from hanging, and they went away over time. He toughts a very low (almost 0) complication rate with his current techniques, however only he knows~ So far, everything he has told me has been spot on so I'm very happy with his integrity. Be advised though, this is no casual surgery.
Thanks for that.
Is there any chance of re-absorption? Since the skin can be from a donor or somewhere on your body for the skin graft, I read that this section never grows nerves or blood vessels - this would lead me to assume the outer skin would never have feeling, is this correct?
My one more concern is proportion, I see they don't do the head of the penis, so if you have a thick shaft and a small head, doesn't it look a bit out of proportion?
The final thing is forskin - I notice you have the chop (so to speak) looking at this operation I would also have to have it?
Thanks alot for your input and I hope you can help me come to a decision on this.
Oh, and non girth related - your length, was this done by cutting the suspension ligament or was it something else?
Cheers
Posts: 26
10-21-2010, 08:01 AM
Post #62
bohm
bohm
View Public Profile
Send a private message to bohm
Find all posts by bohm
Add bohm to Your Buddy List
View bohm's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Canada
Surprisingly, I believe there are surgeries even for the glans (head). Here's just one of quite a few:
Human glans penis augmentation using injectable hyaluronic acid gel. Kim JJ, Kwak TI, Jeon BG, Cheon J, Moon DG.
Department of Urology, Korea University College of Medicine, Anam-dong, Sungbuk-ku, Seoul, Korea.
Abstract
Although augmentation phalloplasty is not an established procedure, some patients still need enlargement of their penis. Current penile augmentation is girth enhancement of penile body by dermofat graft. We performed this study to identify the efficacy and the patient's satisfaction of human glans penis augmentation with injectable hyaluronic acid gel. In 100 patients of subjective small penis (Group I) and 87 patients of small glans after dermofat graft (Group II), 2 cm(3) of hyaluronic acid gel was injected into the glans penis, subcutaneously. At 1 y after injection, changes of glandular diameter were measured by tapeline. Patient's visual estimation of glandular size (Gr 0-4) and patient's satisfaction (Grade (Gr) 0-4) were evaluated, respectively. Any adverse reactions were also evaluated. The mean age of patients was 42.2 (30-70) y in Group I and 42.13 (28-61) y in Group II. The maximal glandular circumference was significantly increased compared to basal circumference of 9.13+/-0.64 cm in Group I (P<0.01) and 9.49+/-1.05 cm in Group II (P<0.01) at 1 y after injection. Net increase of maximal glandular circumference after glans augmentation was 14.93+/-0.80 mm in Group I and 14.78+/-0.89 mm in Group II. In patient's visual estimation, more than 50% of injected volume was maintained in 95% of Group 1 and 100% of Group II. The percentage of postoperative satisfaction (Gr 4, 5) was 77% in Group 1 and 69% in Group II. There was no abnormal reaction in area feeling, texture, and color. In most cases, initial discoloration by glandular swelling recovered to normal within 2 weeks. There were no signs of inflammation and no serious adverse reactions in all cases. These results suggest that injectable hyaluronic acid gel is a safe and effective material for augmentation of glans penis.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20233296
__________________
Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)
Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)
Posts: 1,384
10-21-2010, 11:36 AM
Post #63
man-of-10
man-of-10
View Public Profile
Send a private message to man-of-10
Find all posts by man-of-10
Add man-of-10 to Your Buddy List
View man-of-10's PE Statistics
Moderator
Forum Donator
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Ireland
^That's actually pretty sweet. I can see myself many years down the line getting an operation like this to add a mushroom head to my future 6" girth .
__________________
Decemeber 2007: 5.8" BPEL x 4.9" MSEG
Current:-------->7.7" BPEL x 5.7" MSEG (7.2" NBPEL)
Current Goal:--->7.6" BPEL X 5.8" MSEG Do or do not, there is no "try". www.pe-sites.com/examples1.htm
Posts: 2,351
10-21-2010, 03:30 PM
Post #64
kubchaser
kubchaser
View Public Profile
Send a private message to kubchaser
Find all posts by kubchaser
Add kubchaser to Your Buddy List
View kubchaser's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Canada
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soma
Ok, so I just went past two weeks and I seem to be healing well. I posting a slight chub photo, meaning I have just a little blood flow. I am very happy with the girth so far and am looking forward to next week where I think I'll stop taking the "no boner pills"!!
Impressive flaccid hang..
Darn you make me want the surgery too!
__________________
(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG (Sep 24, 2010) 5.94" BPEL x 5.11" EG (Oct 17, 2010) 6.10" BPEL x 5.11" EG / 6.41" BPFSL
"kubchaser" progress report: determined! (for progress/pics)
Goal: 8" (20.32 cm) long / 6" (15.24 cm) thick
Posts: 771
10-21-2010, 03:56 PM
Post #65
kubchaser
kubchaser
View Public Profile
Send a private message to kubchaser
Find all posts by kubchaser
Add kubchaser to Your Buddy List
View kubchaser's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Forum Donator
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Canada
Quote:
Originally Posted by bohm
Surprisingly, I believe there are surgeries even for the glans (head). Here's just one of quite a few:
Human glans penis augmentation using injectable hyaluronic acid gel. Kim JJ, Kwak TI, Jeon BG, Cheon J, Moon DG.
Department of Urology, Korea University College of Medicine, Anam-dong, Sungbuk-ku, Seoul, Korea.
Abstract
Although augmentation phalloplasty is not an established procedure, some patients still need enlargement of their penis. Current penile augmentation is girth enhancement of penile body by dermofat graft. We performed this study to identify the efficacy and the patient's satisfaction of human glans penis augmentation with injectable hyaluronic acid gel. In 100 patients of subjective small penis (Group I) and 87 patients of small glans after dermofat graft (Group II), 2 cm(3) of hyaluronic acid gel was injected into the glans penis, subcutaneously. At 1 y after injection, changes of glandular diameter were measured by tapeline. Patient's visual estimation of glandular size (Gr 0-4) and patient's satisfaction (Grade (Gr) 0-4) were evaluated, respectively. Any adverse reactions were also evaluated. The mean age of patients was 42.2 (30-70) y in Group I and 42.13 (28-61) y in Group II. The maximal glandular circumference was significantly increased compared to basal circumference of 9.13+/-0.64 cm in Group I (P<0.01) and 9.49+/-1.05 cm in Group II (P<0.01) at 1 y after injection. Net increase of maximal glandular circumference after glans augmentation was 14.93+/-0.80 mm in Group I and 14.78+/-0.89 mm in Group II. In patient's visual estimation, more than 50% of injected volume was maintained in 95% of Group 1 and 100% of Group II. The percentage of postoperative satisfaction (Gr 4, 5) was 77% in Group 1 and 69% in Group II. There was no abnormal reaction in area feeling, texture, and color. In most cases, initial discoloration by glandular swelling recovered to normal within 2 weeks. There were no signs of inflammation and no serious adverse reactions in all cases. These results suggest that injectable hyaluronic acid gel is a safe and effective material for augmentation of glans penis.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20233296
Tempting to try this too! Darn..
__________________
(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG (Sep 24, 2010) 5.94" BPEL x 5.11" EG (Oct 17, 2010) 6.10" BPEL x 5.11" EG / 6.41" BPFSL
"kubchaser" progress report: determined! (for progress/pics)
Goal: 8" (20.32 cm) long / 6" (15.24 cm) thick
Posts: 771
10-21-2010, 06:34 PM
Post #66
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
4wheeler,
You should really talk to a doc~ Just saying...here's my take on your questions:
The body does grow a blood supply and eventual supplant the Belladerm with your own tissue (I'm not sure how long this takes), not sure about nerves, but the nerves we sense with are mostly located in the skin and are still intact. I believe what I'm experiencing is due to how stretched the skin is (it is still very tight). Growing blood supplies and supplanting tissue happens in many surgeries. I had an ACL done ten years ago with a cadaver tendon and my body supplanted the tissue. For length, I did have my ligs snipped but don't expect to realize the gains from that until I can start hanging (6 week post op I can begin). For the head, they just inject something like juviderm. It only last a year so I didn't bother. Plus, I had a good size head to begin with, and I'm pretty sure I'll look proportional with a full erection.
Posts: 66
10-21-2010, 06:50 PM
Post #67
UkranianTitan
UkranianTitan
View Public Profile
Send a private message to UkranianTitan
Find all posts by UkranianTitan
Add UkranianTitan to Your Buddy List
View UkranianTitan's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Soma, I don't know if anyone has asked this, but can you list your Before Girth (flaccid and erect) as well as after?
Posts: 473
10-21-2010, 06:52 PM
Post #68
baywatch
baywatch
View Public Profile
Send a private message to baywatch
Find all posts by baywatch
Add baywatch to Your Buddy List
View baywatch's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North East
Soma, your junk looks awesome in that last post op pic!
Just wanted to remind people that I am I think 3 years now post lengthening surgery and 2 and 1 year post widening surgery (2 procedures as prescribed).
Not one bad or negative side effect. Results still holding up strong. Dick works great. Not one woman has ever speculated I've had a doctors help down there.
Who knows, Soma, maybe its just you and me brother on the positive side of surgery. All the best. Don't forget you've got a lot of work (hanging) ahead of you to get NBPEL!!
Posts: 1,084
10-21-2010, 07:29 PM
Post #69
Sultan
Sultan
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Sultan
Find all posts by Sultan
Add Sultan to Your Buddy List
View Sultan's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: United Strokes of America
Glad to hear you're healing well, Soma, hope you recover with desired results.
baywatch, after you got your ligs snipped how satisfied where you with your flaccid length gains (before you began post op hanging)? Once you began post op hanging what do it do for your flaccid length? How long after you began post op hanging did you see these results? Where there any noticeable erect gains? Thanks.
Posts: 562
10-21-2010, 07:41 PM
Post #70
prefontaine1973
prefontaine1973
View Public Profile
Send a private message to prefontaine1973
Find all posts by prefontaine1973
Add prefontaine1973 to Your Buddy List
View prefontaine1973's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: NC
Quote:
Originally Posted by baywatch
Soma, your junk looks awesome in that last post op pic!
Just wanted to remind people that I am I think 3 years now post lengthening surgery and 2 and 1 year post widening surgery (2 procedures as prescribed).
Not one bad or negative side effect. Results still holding up strong. Dick works great. Not one woman has ever speculated I've had a doctors help down there.
Who knows, Soma, maybe it's just you and me brother on the positive side of surgery. All the best. Don't forget you've got a lot of work (hanging) ahead of you to get NBPEL!!
Baywatch, who did your surgery?
Posts: 41
10-21-2010, 09:50 PM
Post #71
Soma
Soma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Soma
Find all posts by Soma
Add Soma to Your Buddy List
View Soma's PE Statistics
Member
Join Date: May 2002
Hi Baywatch,
Good to hear you had a positive outcome! I'm curious, what did you end up with for erect length gains?
Pre,
Pre op flaccid girth was 4 and length was around 4-4.5 (this one can be pretty subjective so I don't want to tought gains until I can pull on it and measure but I'm hanging at 5 or bigger always now).
Posts: 66
10-21-2010, 10:01 PM
Post #72
baywatch
baywatch
View Public Profile
Send a private message to baywatch
Find all posts by baywatch
Add baywatch to Your Buddy List
View baywatch's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North East
Quote:
Originally Posted by prefontaine1973
Baywatch, who did your surgery?
Dr. Alter did my lengthening. He's doctor 90210 from the cable show. He's hands down the safe bet. He's got impeccable credentials. I promise you will not hear any bad stories about his work. That in and of itself is what drove me him.
Dr. Giunta did my widening. I picked him because he's by far got FFT down to a science. I went with FFT because I felt it was the safest filler and I still believe that it is. I am ecstatic about my results. The real world value I got from the widening dwarfs the value I got from the lengthening.
Posts: 1,084
10-21-2010, 10:14 PM
Post #73
baywatch
baywatch
View Public Profile
Send a private message to baywatch
Find all posts by baywatch
Add baywatch to Your Buddy List
View baywatch's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North East
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sultan
baywatch, after you got your ligs snipped how satisfied where you with your flaccid length gains (before you began post op hanging)?
Not satisfied at all! I had no flaccid gain. In fact I felt like I was in a quasi turtling state all the time. All my gains cam from the post op stretching.
After much deliberation and some very vague feedback I got from my widening surgeon I suspect Dr. Alter did a conservative cut of my ligs and that's why my post op gains only came as the result of stretching. Like I said before, Alter is the safe bet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sultan
Once you began post op hanging what do it do for your flaccid length? How long after you began post op hanging did you see these results? Where there any noticeable erect gains? Thanks.
I really can't remember other than is was a very long and slow process that was at least 7 months of work, which included very dedicated hanging to the point where my life revolved around hanging.
Yes the got erect length gains. That was all I tracked along the way and cared about. I also got flaccid gains.
[/QUOTE]
Posts: 1,084
10-21-2010, 10:20 PM
Post #74
baywatch
baywatch
View Public Profile
Send a private message to baywatch
Find all posts by baywatch
Add baywatch to Your Buddy List
View baywatch's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North East
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soma
Hi Baywatch,
Good to hear you had a positive outcome! I'm curious, what did you end up with for erect length gains?
I got 3/4" NBPEL gain. I still PE to this day, R years later, but have yet to get me a full inch.
I got either 1.5" or 2" of flaccid length gain. I can't remember. I thought this gain was pretty good. Interesting how it doesn't correlate much to EL gains, huh?
Posts: 1,084
10-21-2010, 10:20 PM
Post #75
baywatch
baywatch
View Public Profile
Send a private message to baywatch
Find all posts by baywatch
Add baywatch to Your Buddy List
View baywatch's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North East
Oops! R years late should be 3 years later!!
Baywatch,
Thanks bro! Glad to hear you got erect gains. And I agree with you, the flaccid measurements are a bit "soft" (pun intended), however, I definately have some right off the bat. I also agree that the girth is the more valuable result. How much girth did you gain with the FFT total?
Posts: 66
10-22-2010, 09:42 AM
Post #77
baywatch
baywatch
View Public Profile
Send a private message to baywatch
Find all posts by baywatch
Add baywatch to Your Buddy List
View baywatch's PE Statistics
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North East
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soma
How much girth did you gain with the FFT total?
By design (choice) I gained 3/4" MSEG to get to a bit more than 5.75". My dick widens from mid to base, to 6". I did not want to gain any more girth. I was afraid I'd be to big if you can believe that. The reality is; however, no woman has ever had a hard time taking me. Thankfully most if not all I've had at my new size have stated I have a big dick I even got a resounding "wow, your girth is exceptional" from a ONS girl who had been around the block and had no reason the say what she said. Guess that's one data point supporting my girth as the exception and not the rule.
Posts: 1,084
10-22-2010, 11:07 AM
Post #78
4wheeler
4wheeler
View Public Profile
Send a private message to 4wheeler
Find all posts by 4wheeler
Add 4wheeler to Your Buddy List
View 4wheeler's PE Statistics
New Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: UK
My ideal would be around 7 girth at the base(current 5).
Do you need to have the forskin removed on this operation?
Posts: 26