Some change from the last measurements. Mainly in my erect girth and length. I have been staying pretty consistent with both the application of the DHT and my manual PE. Hoping this somewhat positive trend continues. Still not sure what is due to the PE vs the DHT, but as stated before, we'll see what happens once I go off the DHT and scale back the PE routine.
As for my overall health:
Noticed that my acne has increased. Mood is fairly good. The skin on my glands has become harder, thinking this is due to the DHT application. Cannot answer any hair loss questions, I'm already shaving my head. Libido has decreased from previous week, still higher than pre-DHT Did have to order more DHT cream, have another 4 tubes coming. I'm 3/4 of the way through the first two tubes.
Manual PE, I did have to take a one day break, but am back on. The only other modification I made was that I now am using the AutoXleeve at night also. Just using the soft sleeve and the 5oz cap at night.
I will be on vacation next week, so I'll update at 4 weeks and see if anything has changed.
Well I am back from vacation and have to report that I learned that trying to stay on a manual PE program while camping is next to impossible. So basically I kinda screwed up my own experiment a little.
I am now back on track with the PE and the DHT applications. I will wait until the 5th week to record any measurements again though.
I have been staying with the same routine as previously reported. I will continue with the DHT cream for one more week and then take a break to allow my hormone levels to go back down. I will be using saw palmetto to help flush the DHT out of my system. I will be off the DHT for 3 weeks and will continue with the manual PE. We'll see what happens during that time with the measurements.
I did order one of the Vac Extender mod kits for my Andros stretcher, I will be adding that to my PE routine once I re-start the DHT to see if that will help increase length.
Erection quality is definitely way better. I feel like the energizer bunny in that department. I also have noticed that my sensitivity has gone down somewhat, I attribute that to the repeated applications of an alcohol based cream. However, it has lead to lasting pretty much as long as I want. I have greater control over when I want to let go. It has been wearing the wife out.
I haven't noticed any major changes in my moods. I am still not sleeping that much, in fact lately I have been battling insomnia, but that may be due to the pressures of work more than the DHT.
So I am now at the 6 week mark and have stopped using the DHT. My measurements are the same as last reported, no change. I will be off the DHT for the next 3 weeks. Currently taking Saw Palmetto to help flush the DHT out. I will be continuing with the manual PE in a lighter routine for the next couple of weeks before going back on the DHT cream. I will update as to what changes I see as it gets out of my system.
I have now been off the DHT for a little over a week now. I have continued taking the Saw Palmetto to help flush this stuff out. I have also had to scale way back on my PE routine due to work requirements. I had not planned on scaling back as far as I have, but I need my job more!
Current PE routine is the Auto Extender for 1 to 2 hours per day.
Once I get back home this next week, I'll go back to the ADS and pumping. I will also update my measurements then to see what has been happening.
As for effects of coming off the DHT, I have noticed that my flaccid state seems to be back to pretty much the same as it was in the beginning, but I haven't been able to measure this yet. I still seem to have a faily good energy level, but my libido has decreased and I have noticed being a bit more snappy at people than before.
It seems that some of the "growth" is sticking around. I am somewhat encouraged by this at this point. I will be back on the DHT this next week for the next round. Trying to stay consistent with my PE routine now.
I have restarted the DHT treatments as of today. I will keep this updated as I notice any changes either physical or emotional. I did not notice any major differences while off the DHT except for being a bit more irritable and a slightly lower libido.
I will be travelling again this next week, so I will update as I can.
I find it interesting that after only a day and a half back on the DHT my flaccid size has gone back to what it was at the end of the first session. Both the length and girth increased noticably. My energy level has increased again also. I will measure erect tonight and see what has happened.
I would think that with the second round this is not a mental issue but a physical result. Have to see what happens when I get to the third round. Looking for those repeatable results.
Took a couple more days than I thought it would to measure. Sorry about that. As for my current measurements, they are exactly the same as week 8. So no change either in the positive or negative direction.
I will hold off on measuring for a couple of weeks and see if the latest round does anything for growth.
I am sticking to my PE routine fairly well. Travelling for my job has messed up my schedule somewhat, but that can't be helped.
I am applying the DHT 5x per day again. Back to having insomnia issues again though. I'm beginning to think the DHT is responsible for this. My energy level during the day is pretty good, but getting tired earlier in the evening and still can't get to sleep. I'll take this as long as I see some results though.
Noticed that my stretched length when in the pump is now over 6 inches after 20 minutes, curious that I don't measure that with the BPEL though. This has been a noticeable gain though. Hopefully that will continue.
I will continue with the DHT for at least 3 more weeks in this round.
Measured again last night at the end of my pumping session, I'm now past 6-1/4" in the pump, but I do not see the same correlation between the erect and flaccid measurements. I have seen gains in both flaccid and erect since I started, but it seems to me that I should see a similar result in at least the erect measurement.
Anyone have an explanation for this? I am interested in others thoughts on this.
I guess it figures I'd be very attentive to your experiment since our starting statistics are pretty much the same. That is quite a bit more progress in a short time span than I would have expected and I hadn't heard of DHT cream before, so thanks for trying it out and I'll be getting some soon. How much of this progress do you attribute to the Manual PE and how much to the DHT? I guess it is both, but I wonder if you can evaluate whether, libido aside, you wouldn't have achieved the same results without the cream?
I just realized that I am taking Adovart to prevent hair loss. It works really well, pretty much twice as well as Finasteride given that it uses Duasteride which is a twofold chemical inhibitor of DHT production. This drug was originally designed to prevent swelling of the prostate and now I am wondering if it doesn't also prevent swelling of that which we seek to see swell to unseen proportions?
So I am especially interested in the topical application of DHT cream locally to compensate any ill effects on libido and growth that my hair garnishing drug is affecting...
Would Saw Palmetto help reduce the spread of DHT elsewhere, namely the scalp? I think that with this cream plus Adovart and using some other form of supplement one might prevent too much Dihydrotestosterone from migrating elsewhere instead evacuating it from the organism once it's done its work on the organ.
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