newgirth
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Post by newgirth on Feb 16, 2011 11:24:36 GMT -5
I started my penis enlargement journey 2 years ago. I am a very vain person and I didn’t really NEED the surgery, but I wanted it. I originally thought that the alloderm was the way to go, it seemed like it was natural feeling and looking. Then I stumbled across Dr Elists site and decided to call him to find out more about the implant. At first I did not think I wanted it, I thought how could a piece of silicone ever feel natural and look natural.... He offered to have a few of his old patients talk to me and tell me there story. He also informed me that he had performed several surgeries where he had removed alloderm and put the prosthesis in. These were the people that I wanted to talk to, since I was leaning toward alloderm. When I found out how insignificant the gains were with alloderm, and that some men actually lost length (obviously not what we are trying to do) I was sure that I did not want to get alloderm. When I spoke with Dr. Elists patients I only heard stories of praise. Now that I have the implant myself, (had it put in July 2009) I understand why they are so happy. I gained 2 full inches in girth and had a 4 inch gain in flaccid length and 1 inch gain in erect length. I was a GROWER before, now I am at least 6" long when flaccid. The implant won’t allow my dick to retract less than that. Compared to the 2'' that I used to be when soft, 6'' is a huge difference. If you are thinking about having this surgery do not be distracted by the people that say horrible things on here. I would argue that if there was an issue after the surgery it was probably the patients fault. Meaning that they did not let the piece heal correctly, had sex too early, did not wrap it...... I followed the Dr's directions to the letter and had no problems at all. Very minimal discomfort for the few days after the surgery, wouldn’t even call it pain. I would be glad to answer any questions from people that are thinking about the surgery. I would not have done it if I did not have anyone to talk to, so now it’s my turn to do the talking.
Since I know you’re going to ask... My measurements were/are
Before: 2'' long flaccid- 6'' long and 6'' in girth erect
After: 6" long flaccid and 6'' girth flaccid --- Erect 7" long 8’’ girth
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Post by Skeptical One on Feb 16, 2011 12:15:29 GMT -5
Do you have before/after pictures?
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newgirth
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Post by newgirth on Feb 16, 2011 12:19:25 GMT -5
I do, I can post them when I get home tonight.
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Post by messageman on Feb 16, 2011 12:58:08 GMT -5
Great advice Newgirth!. Advise all prospective PE patients to completely ignore all the implant horror stories that have occurred and listen to one of the very few successful ones... I do have some news for you; most of the members here are well acquainted with the implant’s track record…so much so that when it is mentioned (which isn't that often anymore), the things discussed are: 1) Why somebody had to have it removed, eg. Infection, sharp edges, lopsided, unnatural looking, a time bomb waiting to happen, etc. 2) How much length was lost when it was removed, eg. 2 inches, 3 inches, 4 inches,etc 3) How to possibly get the lost length back…FYI, in most cases it isn’t. 4) What doctor to see for reconstruction surgery; it certainly isn’t Dr. Elist. 5) General cries of help by former Elist patients who now have shortened, deformed penises, in need of consolation. I am sure you have your pictures all ready to go and I am sure they’ll all look great! Hope you can sleep at night mate.
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Post by kingpin on Feb 16, 2011 16:37:15 GMT -5
Newgirth: If you genuinely had a successful surgery with Elist then good for you, but you are coming off as a sales person for Elist and your post reminds me of all the fake accts posting on MyNewSize.
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newgirth
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Post by newgirth on Feb 16, 2011 17:12:57 GMT -5
Message man,
As I stated before, your facts are fictitious, your getting them from people that for the most part have not even had the surgery, I wish you guys would stop spreading rumors that are simply not true. Go talk to the doctor, find out about the surgery and then make your decision.
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newgirth
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Post by newgirth on Feb 16, 2011 17:19:21 GMT -5
Kingpin,
The fact that you are even making that accusation is the exact reason I am telling all of you to simply find out information for yourself. I make a few good remarks about Dr Elist and the first thing you think is I must be working for him. This industry is filled with people that are not who they seem, I encourage everyone to go seek the information yourself. Go see all the doctors, find out about who the surgeons are. Dr Kravosky is an anesthesiologist, posing as a plastic surgeon. If you don’t believe me go find out for yourself. Go to his office and ask to see his graduate certificate from medical school. I am not an agent for any doctor, I hope you all stop relying upon other people insight and do your own homework.
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Post by Skeptical One on Feb 16, 2011 17:35:37 GMT -5
newgirthif you have been following the phallo-forum scene (i.e. MNS, PhalloBoards), you will see that what Messageman is reporting is not fictitious. You can argue that those who did have complications may have "tampered" with post-op protocol (and even then it would be pure speculation), but it is much harder to insinuate that those who come reporting in great detail the horrors of their complication(s) to be fabricators. Rest assured, if this new Runels injection, or Dr. C's PMMA were to show signs of complication... we would be the first to post it. The idea is: NO one here is trying to destroy the business of one doctor over another. We are a real-time exchange of real experiences and real situations. As Kingpin suggested, by coming in and discrediting the skeptics and wholly endorsing one Doctor, and even taking a knock at some other doctor's reputation's (i.e. Rosenthal unprofessional) only makes you sound like a sales person. One of our members, marknmau, has had great success with the implant, has no complications or loss of length. However, even he admitted what he knows now about the implant would make him hesitate to recommend it to others. Even someone with insight on the positive aspects of the implant conceded its potential for poor outcome. You better believe any news about a procedure that has anything negative will be magnified. This is because it is our penis(es) going under the knife...it is in fact a very serious matter (and decision).
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Post by dog on Feb 16, 2011 19:22:42 GMT -5
Message man, As I stated before, your facts are fictitious, your getting them from people that for the most part have not even had the surgery, I wish you guys would stop spreading rumors that are simply not true. Go talk to the doctor, find out about the surgery and then make your decision. I know messageman and his facts are NOT false. He's had the implant in and had it taken out. Also, I've had this implant put in and removed. And your assessment of it is completely ridiculous. Minimal pain? Are you kidding? It feels like a piece of plastic and completely unnatural. I know guys that have kept it in and they will ALL agree that even after years you can feel the edges. As for your implication that the reason things go wrong with the implant is due to a patients' fault, you are WRONG. If you have truly gotten this implant, you will soon find out.... But you sound like one of Dr. Elists' moles who spreads false hope for alot of guys hoping for a large penis. And by god, I hope you don't have to have it removed (and most do by the way for one reason or another), but the chance of you losing length is extremely high after the removal. Good luck buddy, but please, research the people you condemn before making claims which you know nothing about.
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Post by skatezy777 on Feb 16, 2011 19:23:34 GMT -5
dogSorry to hear about your complications. How are you doing now?
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Post by dog on Feb 16, 2011 19:27:59 GMT -5
dogSorry to hear about your complications. How are you doing now? Over an inch of length lost and a huge scar in the pubic area (4") for starters. And even with reconstruction... But I've been on this rant before. If I can stop one more guy from getting this procedure all the more better.
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Post by sheldon on Feb 16, 2011 19:29:54 GMT -5
For those of you who lost length with the implant, Dr. Guinta may be able to help: "Patients who have penile implants traditionally experience a reduction in the length and girth of the penile shaft due to the implant material(s). Sadly, this is a complication of having penile implants. Fortunately, however, Dr. Giunta’s FFT technique using Platelet Rich Plasma can effectively reverse some of these losses, depending on the implant type and patient, and can add both length and girth to the patient who has penile implants." www.drgiunta.com/fft-platelet-rich-plasma.htmlI am not saying go to him, or anyone who lost length/girth from the implant will get it back by going to Dr. Guinta, but it is something to explore. Hope this helps...
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Post by bigbizo8 on Feb 16, 2011 20:38:07 GMT -5
newgirth no disrespect but your story sounds really far fetch,you state that u got a 4" length which sounds extremely unbelievable, also you said that you had your surgery done back in 09. I also talk to Dr Elist but i heard from a lot of guys who had the Elist implant and it didn't work for them, also they talk about losing length. Like the other guy said it sounds like a sells pitch. This is one of the great sites where we are very honest and helpful to each other, The last thing we need here is somebody trying to corrup this site, Not saying you're trying to but its sounds a little unbelievable. Once again i say no disrespect to you, If you gain that great but this site hear is a great great site with a bunch of honest guys all out for the same goal at the end of the day. we all would love to see before and after pics.
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Post by bigbizo8 on Feb 16, 2011 20:48:22 GMT -5
Dog we are really sorry you had to have yours removed. That was my point also when he stated he had very minor pain that kind of sealed it for me that he was a fraud, But once again that's my opinion.
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Post by idm on Feb 16, 2011 23:27:39 GMT -5
This thread is an endorsement...one that I read before on another site. THIS SITE, does not endorse or have business dealings w/particular doctors for personal financial gains, but rather serves as a place for gathering information about the various phalloplasty procedures that are available, the doctors who perform them; its also very much about us, the patients and prospective patients sharing our experiences and supporting eachother in a positive and HONEST way.
Phalloplasty.proboards came into existence as many realized they were in fact being deceived on "the other forum".
The good news is that because of this site, and the free dialogue that exists, men are learning the truth about all options currently available...the good and not so good, but as a result WE have become more sophisticated, empowered and frankly not nearly as gullible as some of us were previously.
The truth is the truth, and ultimately nothing changes that.
As a moderator, I would like to suggest that we try our best to refrain from using this site as a means of obvious/public endorsement for a particular doctor and by the same token, calibrate our criticisms of specific doctors (again publicly), as negative commentaries can be perceived as character assasination.
My suggestion to the administrator of this site is to modify the title of this thread so it reads like less of an advertisement/endorsement by phalloboards.
This is necessary in my opinion b/c it would be equally inappropriate to strat a thread stating: "why DrX is a qwack and should have his license revoked".
Some of us, (especially me), have had to learn that if we intend to continue posting on this subject which is so important to all of us, we need to do so diplomatically, when a point needs to be made in a more direct way, we can utilize the pm feature.
Unlike other places where statements would simply be edited or deleted-thats not what we are about.
Thank you gentlemen for your posts here, and for sharing your experiences!
Idm
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