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Post by terrarvm on Jan 29, 2011 0:28:21 GMT -5
Hi guys, I am new here but some of you may know me from MNS. I became very frustrated with that site because my posts kept getting deleted. I think it's terrible that MNS has the appearance of an objective forum when in reality it isn't. Any way I'm still struggling with the results having Dr Elist's implant removed due to complications. I've been stretching regularly but still have a significant loss of length, and a bumpy penis as a result. The entire experience has been a nightmare and has affected me physically and psychologically. It is my belief that this is a risky procedure and is still experimental. I think is is wrong to market it as a proven science. I'll post more later.
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Post by Skeptical One on Jan 29, 2011 0:42:44 GMT -5
Hey terrarvm, I do remember you from MNS! Glad to have you here!
As you are aware, this site's creation stemmed from the censorship issues at MNS. Here at PhalloBoards we believe in an open, unbias, and mature discourse on all matters related to phalloplasty. In order to ensure the integrity and fairness of these forums, I ask everyone to check out the forum rules (which can by found in my signature line below) to be familiar with what we've done to separate ourselves apart from the "MNS model."
Look forward to reading about your experiences. I believe it is imperative that the public learn both the pros & cons of all procedures, and hopefully your story will give our readers some insights into the risks involved with surgery (and the Elist implant in particular).
I hope that you eventually find the best options to resolve your current dilemma. There is a lot being discussed on these forums, hopefully something will come along that may better suit your situation.
-S.O.
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Post by idm on Jan 29, 2011 1:23:59 GMT -5
Welcome! I remember you from M.N.S- Glad you're here!
I think you'll find this to be a much more straight forward, honest site. I believe this to be an important place to discuss phalloplasty.
For those who've had the implant, seems most have had challenges at least initially. I'm sincerely very pleased for those who've had success with it.
I'd like to believe that we are part of a fraternity here, and we are here to share ideas and support one another, wherever we may be as individuals on our personal journey- regardless of which method of pe we've chosen (if any). Personally I'd like this to become the site that people can turn to for information that is as accurate as possible and for support through in the best or worst of times.
I think the admin here, skeptical, is an extremely thoughtful guy and has done a pretty outstanding job in creating such a place in a relatively short period of time.
Once again, glad you're here-your presence and your sharing of experience will be encouraged and appreciated.
The goal is to help eachother wherever we may be!
Idm
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Post by lastime on Jan 31, 2011 3:39:33 GMT -5
hey dude. You are a soldier man, I hope everything works out for you real soon, and I am in the exact boat you are in. Elist is very nice and stuff, and willing to keep working on his patients for free after care, but I think its cuz he has too, cuz he keeps fucking people up. He fucked me up. He fucked you up, and he messed up messageman, and more. The implant is a cool concept, but not perfected, not even close. We go in thinking he knows what he is doing, but some of these docs are just hoping it turns out good. But when it does not, we are the one's who are messed up for life. My penis is way different without the implant than it was before i got it. Im fucking small now. Elist never told me that this might or will happen. I would have never done it if I was taking this big of a chance. I need fixing. I need to get back where I started and leave it at that. Maybe stretch and have and sex with my wife, that's what i want for my penis. We are playing with FIRE with all this implant business. Im a fool, I trusted EList because he told me it would be great.
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Post by new1inch on Jan 31, 2011 17:34:51 GMT -5
welcome to the site. i think if i had the money to get the implant i few months back i think i wud have got it too, because finances was the only thing holding you back. i think it was some one on this sit tht actually got thier length back. if i can find the post i'll put the link here.
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Post by new1inch on Jan 31, 2011 17:35:50 GMT -5
@ lastime.. sorry to hear about your surgery. i hope everything works out for you.
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Post by idm on Feb 1, 2011 23:46:42 GMT -5
What a beautiful day it will be, when one (or more) of MrElists disgruntled patients emerge w/the balls to sue him!
I was somewhat reluctant to come on here as a moderator, b/c I was concerned that I would have to refrain from speaking my mind freely. I don't believe there's a contingency clause so here goes...
I hope we are not reduced to being another piss and moan forum here. The "other", so called forum....(which doesn't even deserve to be mentioned by name) was a very negative, ugly, corrupt place.
We have established, I think, that we are here to support eachother and yes we all have a right to express ourselves/ share our stories, but until the men who claim injury as a direct result of this guys actions, make a decision to proceed w/formal legal action against him-NOTHING WILL CHANGE!
Perhaps w/the exception of some of his former patients, no one has more disdain for Elist than I... As some of you may recall, I was a vocal opponent of his practice(s)...and was criticized to some extent for some of my comments. That said, if you aren't going to hold him accountable, you may as well simply stop talking about it and move on. If you believe you were done wrong, and if he's as monstrous as some believe, only YOU can bring about positive changes- no one else.
It angers me to no end that he continues his deceptive tactics which result in pain and suffering by those who trust him.
To the few here who've had the implant and are tolerating it, God Bless ya' but A fan and protector of this guy I am not!
Idm
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Post by allofme2 on Feb 23, 2011 15:28:16 GMT -5
Hey terrarvm - what's happened to you. We need your input particularly with what has been happening lately
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Post by sheldon on Feb 23, 2011 16:08:58 GMT -5
What is Dr. Elist's ethnicity?
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Post by Skeptical One on Feb 23, 2011 17:42:42 GMT -5
sheldonCorrect me if I'm mistaken anyone, but given his schooling in Tehran, I presume he's of Iranian descent. This info was obtained via Medical Board of California's website. Of course, needless to say those details of a doctor's background shouldn't affect our decision making.
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Post by smartman on Feb 24, 2011 10:52:17 GMT -5
Yes, he is Iranian descent
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Post by hoddle10 on Feb 25, 2011 16:03:42 GMT -5
Something really needs to be done about Dr Elist. Has anyone been over to MNS recently and seen how it's all starting up again. There is a guy called Taxman who is as obvious a shill as Newgirth. Now another guy has come along, called MrThick, saying he yet another Elist success story and he glad to read there are so many. As a victim of botched surgery it makes my blood boil. Two years ago I did everything I could to warn against the Elist implant, but was silenced and couldn't compete with the numerous glowing reports from his "patients" on MNS (virtually all of whom disappeared when Elist and Chad ended their business arrangement). Unfortunately it appears lots of guys fell for the BS posted by the shills over there and they too had to experience the devestation of PE surgery gone wrong. It's going to happen again. At want point does Dr Elist's mental state have to be brought into question? We can blame Chad or whoever else he has promoting his work, but ultimately it's Elist himself that has effectively been trialling his various implants on unsuspecting guys for around a decade. What kind of person can contiually perform this surgery whilst knowing full well his succes rate isn't anywhere near what it shoud be? From what I know of Dr Elist he is a supposedly charming guy, but clearly lacks empathy and is prepared to trample over people's lives to get what he wants. These are clear character traits of a psychopath.
SO you may feel you need to delete or edit my post, as I'm insuating Dr Elist may have a serious psychological illness, so please make any chages you need to. But something clearly isn't right here and it's very frustrating being so powerless to prevent more guys suffering in the way I and many others have.
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Post by Skeptical One on Feb 25, 2011 16:32:49 GMT -5
hoddle10I don't think we're entirely powerless. I think this forum's evolution has helped bring some balance to the discussion (albeit not quite as visible as MyNewSize at this moment in time). I'm pretty certain these shills are not working independent of the doctor (and his paycheck), so logic would hold that the doctor has ordained these shills into work. Given the nature of the procedure, this would seem to stretch the bounds of medical ethics and make anyone question the doctor's position (ethically and/or mentally). While I must be careful not to endorse a pro- or anti- stance, I feel that questioning/speculating on the doctor's state of mind given the current knowledge (regarding the implant, shills, etc) is fair game. As long as our criticisms are within reason and we don't actually assert a certain "diagnosis" as a fact. And Hoddle, check your PM inbox.
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Post by bigbizo8 on Feb 25, 2011 17:33:52 GMT -5
Hoddle10 I agree with you and understand your pain of his lying staff he got luring people in like Chris Henson from dateline. His antics make me sick
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Post by sheldon on Feb 25, 2011 18:19:34 GMT -5
Hoddle10 I agree with you and understand your pain of his lying staff he got luring people in like Chris Henson from dateline. His antics make me sick Is it possible to contact Chris Henson, John Stossel, and/or Brian Ross and have them do a story on Dr. Elist, Chad Hedman, and maybe Dan Salas?
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