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Post by jonappleseed on Jan 20, 2011 16:22:21 GMT -5
I can get an extra half inch out of my erect and flaccid length when I pop a Viagra. It's probably a good idea for you guys who are going down to get this done to take one before the procedure. If not in erect it will probably give you a better flaccid by giving the doc a bit more to hit.
Also, dudes who get this done PLEASE START NEW THREADS if you report. The other one is unmanageable.
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Post by Skeptical One on Jan 21, 2011 2:27:43 GMT -5
I've decided to delete both yardstick's response as well as jon's follow-up response since it doesn't do the discussion any justice. I ask of both to refrain from resuming any form of bickering on the topic matter.
Jonappleseed has made an inquiry, if any of you have input to give on the matter please share respectfully.
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Post by Evil Pnievel on Jan 21, 2011 11:20:27 GMT -5
With all do respect, I agree with S.O., to a certain extent. However, I do agree with Jon on the rec. of not taking any medications (meds not rec. by doc) prior to surgery. The probability that Viagra, and the likes, is not rec. is very high.
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Post by idm on Jan 21, 2011 21:07:53 GMT -5
I'd like to make a statement on this topic. Sometimes people have an idea and share it or make a suggestion with the best of intentions, however, when we put ourselves under a physicians care, we are entrusting ourselves to them-they have a responsibility to us and we have a responsibility as patients to follow their pre and post op instructions.
If we start making decisions w/out their knowledge we compromise results and more importantly our safety.
Its never a good idea to take medications for purposes other than its intended purpose.
Viagra and cialis are vasodialating meds, this increases blood flow to the penis. To undergo a penile procedure (even w/ injections) after having taken this medication would substantially increase bleeding.
Dialating blood vessels in the penis would also complicate the injection process...it is not just important that the doctor not inject pmma into a blood vessel its imperative that that doesn't happen.
Dialating blood vessels would add an unecessary risk to the procedure and would make the doctors task more challenging unecessarily. Infact, if the doctor was made aware of this, he may choose not to proceed with the treatment.
Finally, the doctor, at least DrCasavantes, has a set standard in terms of the amount of pmma that he will inject in a given procedure. As we've read here, he typically does this in two seperate sessions and won't go beyond a certain number of units that he feels is safe, so there doesn't appear to be a reason to take viagra before this treatment.
I'm sure the doctor asks about which medications the patient is on (at least I hope he does), before performing the procedure.
Even aspirin and Ibuprofen can increase bleeding potential.
Idm
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Post by jonappleseed on Jan 22, 2011 0:00:21 GMT -5
Thanks for lending some clarity Idm. Skeptical One- this is your forum and you are obviously free to delete posts if you choose to. However, remember that yardstick championed belladerm and Dr. Rosenthal for months and bashed and trashed talked people to no end who questioned the procedure or the doctor. Dr. Rosenthal used yardstick to promote his procedure by telling people who inquired about belladerm to read his threads on MNS. How many men do you think based their decision on yardstick's word? Quite a few, no doubt. And now most if not all of them have lost alot of length, self-esteem, and some propbably girlsfriends and jobs. Real stuff. If someone took part in fucking up my dick like that I would want to punish them badly. This guy has never been held accountable for it. He just keeps on running his mouth. I have some very very harsh words I would like to use to describe this guy but, have refrained from name calling. This information should at the very least be allowed to exist on this thread. Later we can make it a sticky
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Post by Skeptical One on Jan 22, 2011 2:01:58 GMT -5
jonappleseed & yardstick11 Taking objection, arguing, and disagreeing with others is completely acceptable here and I have no business intervening when the conversation is mature and respectful. However, when the conversation turns into bickering, when people are called "idiots" (or etc) it really cheapens the discussion and doesn't do anything to advance the topic. It also compels one or more members to go back and forth attempting to delegitimize each other, and ends up turning things sour. I ask everyone to review the "Forum Tone" thread found in this forum. I'm here to moderate, not babysit. If anyone has a problem with how I choose to moderate, you are not forced to post here, MNS would gladly have anyone back lol. I have a set of very clear guidelines posted in the Feedback Forum which I expect everyone to have read, and I don't believe there is anything more I need to add to this. idmI figured that much. They usually prefer you fast prior to procedures, so I can only imagine how dangerous something like Viagra would be pre-op. What would be interesting is the use of viagra post-op (like a good 6 weeks after maybe) to help improve blood flow to the surgical site and maybe expedite healing (assuming of course powerful erections would not be detrimental to the type of surgery one has had). Just an idea.
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Post by viduka on Jan 22, 2011 12:06:58 GMT -5
@ jonappleseed
Yes, yardstick talked a lot about his procedure, thanks for that, thats what these forums are about. He was maybe a bit harsh on people when discussing, but nothing bad. However, he has never lied or refrained from providing information. Actually, he has often stated that he himself have lost length. You need to be fair here.
Good luck with the viagra tip!
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Post by jonappleseed on Jan 22, 2011 20:33:11 GMT -5
I was in Rosnthal's office for a consult and the waiting room was packed with guys. He recommended your thread on the phone and in the office. If he was recommending that I take your word for it (which of course wisely I didn't) then you can bet lot's of other people were being told to listen to you too.
Which would be fine except over at MNS you killed talks from people who were skeptical and told everyone to shut the fuck up, man up and just get it done. True words of wisdom. You weren't just reporting your experience you were pressuring people to do it and not allowing discussions by jumping on everyone with insults because you didn't know how to have an adult discussion. Yes. People are adults and reponsible for their own decisions. So man up and take responsibility for yours.
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Post by jonappleseed on Jan 22, 2011 22:32:15 GMT -5
And lose an inch of my dick like you? Nah. That would be maning down.
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Post by idm on Jan 22, 2011 23:48:57 GMT -5
Gentlemen: Take this type of banter to PM. This is a New Year, a new site- let's all move forward not backward. We have an opportunity here, let's make the best of it.
Idm
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