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Post by Skeptical One on Mar 24, 2011 14:33:34 GMT -5
mrstoneSince you have been around the scene and know about some of the procedures, what are your feelings about PMMA and what was it about it that drew you away from it and toward the Elist implant? Just curious, I think it is important we get different perspectives. Also, since you are getting both reconstructive surgery and the implant at the same time, do you plan to stay in Dr. Elist's local area for healing? I would recommend it, there will probably mild trauma to your penis having to undergo all of that (just speculating), and you would probably want to stay in town for at least 3 days. Would you be flying in?
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Post by mrstone on Mar 24, 2011 14:47:15 GMT -5
I would also suggest checking out: phalloplasty.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=articles&action=display&thread=201 Be sure to read the entire thread, I know it is long (5 pages) but it is worth for your sake. This thread isn't about the procedure itself, but about the practices surrounding the procedure. I figured you could relate to this matter in particular. There are also a variety of posts and threads regarding the good & bad of the procedure, but I'd imagine you'd be aware of that by now, at least I hope. Good luck! Wow, that is a crazy story. I can’t tell if this guy was supporting the Dr, or if he was intentionally trying to make this look bad. One thing that I can tell you, from experience, is that this smells like a sabotage attempt. From the very beginning the post reads as a sales pitch, then the guy is very defensive and over the top on his defense of the procedure. If this is real than Dr Elist is just like all the other Dr's out there. I suspect that it is not from the Dr though, for example when a Dr Employs a person to sell their procedure they usually try to create multiple accounts (15 or 20, not just 2 like newgirth) and they don’t just start the post by talking about how good it is. I could not see the pics in the post, but you all said that they were no illustrative of the results that newgirth had posted. So it does not make sense to me that a Dr would have a patient create a very shady post, and then have the person post pics that show a bad result. One thing about these Dr's is that they are very smart; it’s all about the money and putting the other guy out of business. The last thing I am trying to do here is defend Dr Elist, because I know there is a real possibility that this was done by someone that works for him, I am just saying that I don’t think it was. Were you able to contact this guy once you banned him?
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Post by mrstone on Mar 24, 2011 14:50:32 GMT -5
mrstoneSince you have been around the scene and know about some of the procedures, what are your feelings about PMMA and what was it about it that drew you away from it and toward the Elist implant? Just curious, I think it is important we get different perspectives. Also, since you are getting both reconstructive surgery and the implant at the same time, do you plan to stay in Dr. Elist's local area for healing? I would recommend it, there will probably mild trauma to your penis having to undergo all of that (just speculating), and you would probably want to stay in town for at least 3 days. Would you be flying in? I am going to stay all week, I want to be around so he can remove my drain tube for me. I plan to lay in bed the entire week and rest my dick. As far as the PMMA goes, I really dont know much about it besides what I have read in this forum. I chose elist strictly based on the gut feeling I had when I met with him.
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Post by viduka on Mar 24, 2011 18:07:08 GMT -5
Jesus!
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Post by Skeptical One on Mar 24, 2011 18:25:59 GMT -5
I would also suggest checking out: phalloplasty.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=articles&action=display&thread=201 Be sure to read the entire thread, I know it is long (5 pages) but it is worth for your sake. This thread isn't about the procedure itself, but about the practices surrounding the procedure. I figured you could relate to this matter in particular. There are also a variety of posts and threads regarding the good & bad of the procedure, but I'd imagine you'd be aware of that by now, at least I hope. Good luck! Wow, that is a crazy story. I can’t tell if this guy was supporting the Dr, or if he was intentionally trying to make this look bad. One thing that I can tell you, from experience, is that this smells like a sabotage attempt. From the very beginning the post reads as a sales pitch, then the guy is very defensive and over the top on his defense of the procedure. If this is real than Dr Elist is just like all the other Dr's out there. I suspect that it is not from the Dr though, for example when a Dr Employs a person to sell their procedure they usually try to create multiple accounts (15 or 20, not just 2 like newgirth) and they don’t just start the post by talking about how good it is. I could not see the pics in the post, but you all said that they were no illustrative of the results that newgirth had posted. So it does not make sense to me that a Dr would have a patient create a very shady post, and then have the person post pics that show a bad result. One thing about these Dr's is that they are very smart; it’s all about the money and putting the other guy out of business. The last thing I am trying to do here is defend Dr Elist, because I know there is a real possibility that this was done by someone that works for him, I am just saying that I don’t think it was. Were you able to contact this guy once you banned him? So you are suggesting that one camp (tied to a doctor) would be attempting to sabotage the Elist camp? I suppose this is plausible, but it doesn't necessarily bring business to the party committing the false propaganda. Given the "supposed" shills unhindered activity at MyNewSize (newgirth posted here and at MNS), it appears the administrator over there is okay with the obviously bull crap stories...the same website that is 100% associated with Dr. Elist. However, posts questioning the Elist implant in the past have been censored. So with this being said, there is a much higher chance these shills are on the Elist camp rather than against. Furthermore, we have no idea if newgirth has established multiple accounts here, if he were savvy enough he could get away with it to some extent. If the newgirth story alone isn't enough to warrant concern, and the many reporting complications...then consider MyNewSize's association with Dr. Elist as being extremely important. Not trying to imply guilt by association, but one has to take this into account.
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Post by Skeptical One on Mar 24, 2011 18:29:16 GMT -5
I should point out that if you goto Dr. Elist's site found at Surgeon4men (dot) com - you will see that the forum link there goes directly to MyNewSize's forum. That's the same forum that has been deemed illegitimate, bias, and untrustworthy by everyone and anyone who's been visiting these forums long enough!
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Post by 8ball on Mar 30, 2011 21:53:21 GMT -5
Maybe for a short period of time he experimented with FFT for some reason and you were a guinea pig. He was always very much against FFT as far as I know, so perhaps he thought he'd come up with some new way of preventing the fat from reabsorbing or something like that. It wouldn't suprise me if that was the case, as Dr's in this industry seem to have a habbit of charging men thousands of dollars to let them experiment on their dicks. Rheinschild did start out doing FFT, back in the early 1990's when he first got into this, but within a few years he got away from those and into doing dermal grafts.
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Post by Skeptical One on Mar 31, 2011 21:24:43 GMT -5
mrstoneI know you mentioned you were scheduled this week for the girth procedure, how did that go? What is your current situation? Feel free to post at the Progress Reports forum if you wish.
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Post by hoddle10 on Mar 31, 2011 21:41:28 GMT -5
Maybe for a short period of time he experimented with FFT for some reason and you were a guinea pig. He was always very much against FFT as far as I know, so perhaps he thought he'd come up with some new way of preventing the fat from reabsorbing or something like that. It wouldn't suprise me if that was the case, as Dr's in this industry seem to have a habbit of charging men thousands of dollars to let them experiment on their dicks. Rheinschild did start out doing FFT, back in the early 1990's when he first got into this, but within a few years he got away from those and into doing dermal grafts. According to Dan, he assisted in some when he first looked into PE surgery. But either way, I find it very odd, that someone claims to have had FFT with him in the last 10 years. I've known of Rhienschild since the mid 90's and it's not just that he didn't offer FFT, he seemed to be very much against it.
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Post by mrstone on Apr 1, 2011 13:41:58 GMT -5
I would like to update you all on my progress. I had surgery with Dr Elist on monday, he did some scar tissue removal and he also put the implant in. The first thing I will say is that the surgery center is very clean, there is a smoking hot nurse that gets you ready for surgery and its a very professional place. I talked to Dr Elist right before they put the mask on my face to put me to sleep, he reassured me it would all be ok and then I was out!
When I woke up I felt like I had to pee, but I didnt. I guess it was just the implant pushing on everything. My dick is huge, swollen, black, blue and ugly but its huge. I can tell right away that I gained a few inches in length.
The pain was not severe, it was uncomfortable but nothing the pain meds could not take care of.
I will post more as I can over the weekend. For now Im going to lay down and rest my new dick.
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Post by sheldon on Apr 1, 2011 17:04:50 GMT -5
Hello all, I had a fat injection surgery with Dr. Rheinschild 10 years ago. It was a disaster, the fat reabsorbed and I lost length due to him cutting my ligaments. I put up with this for a few years until I decided one day that I deserved to have this fixed. I approached the Dr, who was now working with Dr King and Krovosky, and told him I wanted to have another surgery so he could fix my broken, lumpy dick. He told me I would have to pay again; this obviously frustrated me so I told him to F off! A week later I got a call from Dan Salas; he said that if I talked to other patients that were considering the surgery, and told them how amazing it was, they would perform the surgery on me for free. At the time I was much more concerned with fixing my issues than I was with the other men that I would be leading down this road. So I accepted, I can tell you now that during my time there I responded to hundreds of emails from patients that were very dissatisfied with the surgery. NOT ONE PERSON THAT HAD SURGERY WITH DR R, DR KING OR DR KROVOSKY WAS SATISFIED. I never read one email, or got one phone call that talked about how good the results were, or how happy the customer was. This should serve as a warning to all people that are considering alloderm, belloderm, or fat transfers. These Dr's know that the surgery does not work, yet they keep trying to push limit with these crazy surgeries. One of the most deceptive practices that I witnessed was the intentional altering of before and after photos. They would bring a guy in that had an 8" flaccid dick, take a pic, and then post that as the after pic. Then they would have the guy ice his dick, so it would shrink up, take a pic of it and claim that was the before pic. I have much more info on these procedures, but I will save that for later. Could you give some background on this Dr. King? Could you provide some background on this Dr. King?
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Post by sheldon on Apr 1, 2011 17:16:26 GMT -5
I have much more info on these procedures, but I will save that for later. Feel free to post about the procedures you mentioned - the more knowledge you can share about these PE practices, the better. This can help prevent guys from losing $$$ and having their manhood deformed.
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Post by sheldon on Apr 1, 2011 17:18:29 GMT -5
NOT ONE PERSON THAT HAD SURGERY WITH DR R, DR KING OR DR KROVOSKY WAS SATISFIED. Dan Salas seemed very satisfied with this surgery; Jim R was pleased with his surgery with Dr. Rheinschild; and Dan L was pleased with his surgery from Dr. Krakovsky.
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Post by mrstone on Apr 8, 2011 16:08:53 GMT -5
UPDATE:
So its been 2 weeks from surgery day and I am feeling much better. Drain is out, showering has returned to normal. There is not a word to describe the size of the thing hanging between my legs. Its still swollen and ugly, but I feel like a cucumber is hanging down. Its amazing how quickly you can heal, I feel much better than I did the day after the surgery. I have experienced the night erections that we all have heard about. They wake me up for about 5 min, than I go back to bed.
I will keep you all updated as the days go on.
BTW, so far I have gained 3 inches flacid length and 2 1/2 inches of flacid girth.
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Post by biggerbob on Apr 8, 2011 16:22:37 GMT -5
Wow, that is pretty impressive. Thanks for keeping us updated. Hope everything turns out as expected once you get healed up.
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